Humberside Police wrongly classifying Crimes as Civil matters thus exploiting complaints procedure to avoid investigation

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fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended)

Dear Independent Police Complaints Commission,

Please see email sent by Humberside police in response to a reporting of an alleged crime (matter self explanatory) where the force wrongly classifying a crime of perjury to defraud (and perverting the course of justice) as a Civil matter thus exploiting complaints procedure to avoid investigation.

"From: Morley, Gillian 9614
To: '[email address]'
Sent: November 11, 2015
Subject: Crime Reporting Submission

With regards to your report that was submitted to Humberside Police on 08/11/2015 as follows:

North East Lincolnshire Council produced a false witness statement (thereby committing perjury) with regards a council tax liability hearing at Grimsby Magistrates' Court. The District Judge (Daniel Curtis) was aware that the evidence surrounded a false and corrupt statement, but nevertheless granted the council a liability order to enforce a fraudulent sum which presently stands at £120.00. This sum is likely to increase if the council appoints its criminal firm of bailiffs, Rossendales. My allegations are that the council has committed perjury with the intent to fraudulently obtain money from me by the use of Grimsby Magistrates court and that Judge Daniel Curtis has perverted the course of justice by being complicit to that crime.

Please be advised that this is not a Police matter and is civil which I suggest you seek further advice from a solicitor/legal advisor.

Command Hub
Humberside Police"

I would like to know how many such incidents does the Independent Police Commissioner hold records about with regard to Humberside police and a brief description of each.

Yours faithfully,

fFaudwAtch UK

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fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

To put this into context. Evidence (beyond all doubt) was submitted to Humberside Police regarding North East Lincolnshire Council producing a false witness statement which it presented for a hearing at Grimsby Magistrates' Court. It is an open and shut case, but this is how it was handled. More worryingly, any other outcome to this would have been a complete surprise:

Humberside Police
Professional Standards Branch
Police Headquarters
Priory Road
Hull

13 January 2015

CO 461/15

Dear [you]

Humberside Police is committed to providing a quality of service to all members of the public and I am grateful, therefore, that you have taken the trouble to bring this matter to our attention. This has been passed to me to assess and respond to you.

Your allegation has been assessed to be one falling under the category of neglect or failure in duty and has been assessed by the Professional Standards Branch as being a complaint that can be dealt with under the Local Resolution process.

I note your response to my recent e-mail that you do not wish to engage in this process. I am able to complete the complaint in this manner and you do have a right of appeal as indicated below.

I have sought legal advice from our Force Solicitors in respect of the points you make.

I understand that this matter has been heard in a court of law. The advice I have obtained is that the issues you raise may be appeal points that could be raised at any subsequent appeal hearings.

Humberside Police do not investigate allegations of perjury unless a request to do so comes from the court themselves.

The judge in the case is protected in law for making decisions whilst carrying out their duties in law courts.

Therefore the advice you were given was correct and you should return to the courts to argue the points you raise.

I have enclosed for you information a Fact Sheet entitled "Appealing against the Local Resolution process." This document explains how you may appeal to the Humberside Police Appeal Body in respect of the outcome of the Local Resolution process.

The appropriate appeal body is the Humberside Police Appeal Body as your complaint does not relate to the conduct of a senior officer, has not been referred to the IPCC, does not justify criminal or misconduct proceedings and does not arise from the same incident as a complaint where the IPCC would have to deal with any appeal.

You have 29 days from the date of this letter, within which to make your appeal. You are advised to post your appeal in good time to ensure it reaches the Humberside Police Appeal Body before the end of the 29th day. The 29th day is 11 February 2016.

Your sincerely

Inspector

Charlotte Peters Rock left an annotation ()

South Yorkshire Police will not even investigate a very well (officially) documented murder, when the killer still lives in the murder house ..and through several Chief Constables, they have had nearly 12 years to do it. See ralphwinstanleyofwath.blogspot. com

fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended)

Dear !FOI Requests,

Response to this request is delayed. By law, Independent Police Complaints Commission should have responded by 27 January 2016.

Yours sincerely,

fFaudwAtch UK

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fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

"The appropriate appeal body is the Humberside Police Appeal Body as your complaint does...not justify criminal or misconduct proceedings...."

The above is incorrect.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/296596192/App...

APPEALS AGAINST THE OUTCOME OF LOCAL RESOLUTION
.......
CORRUPT OR OTHER IMPROPER EXERCISE OF POLICE POWERS AND PRIVILEGES

An officer commits an offence under subsections (5) and (6) of Section 26 of the [Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015] by FAILING to exercise a power for the purpose of achieving the DETRIMENT of another person. There has clearly been a failure in exercising police powers by wrongly advising that the matter does not concern the Police as it is civil. Had the force exercised its powers and investigated the crime (an open and shut case) NELC would not be entitled to the fraudulent proceeds, which may potentially be added to with further fraudulent sums. The failure to exercise its power to investigate has therefore caused me a financial loss which is likely to continue to my detriment and intensify in the passing of time.......

fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended)

Dear !FOI Requests,

Response to this request is long overdue. By law, under all circumstances, Independent Police Complaints Commission should have responded by now.

Yours sincerely,

fFaudwAtch UK

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fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended)

Dear !FOI Requests,

Further to my 25 February 2016 email, response to this request is long overdue. By law, under all circumstances, Independent Police Complaints Commission should have responded by now.

Yours sincerely,

fFaudwAtch UK

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Gemma Thomas,

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Dear fFaudwAtch UK

Thank you for your information request to the IPCC. Please find attached our request for clarification.

Yours sincerely

Gemma Thomas
Freedom of Information & Data Protection Manager
Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)
90 High Holborn
London WC1V 6BH
W: 0121 673 3742
M: 07984 255 415
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fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended)

Dear Gemma Thomas,

I would like all recorded information (complaints for example) in relation to Humberside police refusing to record/investigate the crime where the incident reported has been perjury.

Yours sincerely,

fFaudwAtch UK

Nimco Musa,

Reference number: 1005868

Dear fFaudwAtch UK

Re: Request for Information

Thank you for your email received here at the IPCC on 24 March 2016.

Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and will be answered within 20 working days. You should therefore expect a response by 25 April 2016.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact [IPCC request email]. Please do remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications about this request.

Yours sincerely,

Nimco Musa
Independent Police Complaints Commission (ipcc)

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Nimco Musa,

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Dear fFaudwAtch UK

Please find attached response to your FOI request received on 24 March 2016

Kind Regards
Nimco Musa
Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)

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fFaudwAtch UK (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

See above (annotation 15 January 2016) or letter ( http://tinyurl.com/ha82mnb )

" I understand that this matter has been heard in a court of law. The advice I have obtained is that the issues you raise may be appeal points that could be raised at any subsequent appeal hearings.

Humberside Police do not investigate allegations of perjury unless a request to do so comes from the court themselves. "

The police force is making spurious statements because the matter is criminal and not something you can appeal to another judge in the casino justice system.

Some useful information on the Crown Prosecution Service's website states that the police do not have to be instructed by the court to investigate perjury, which is what Humberside police claims to be its policy.

CASES INVOLVING ALLEGATIONS OF PERJURY ( http://tinyurl.com/hd3fusj )

" Where a judge or magistrate believes that some evidence adduced at trial is perjured s/he can recommend that there should be a police investigation.

The absence of such recommendation does not mean that there is no justification for an investigation. "

Further reading ( http://tinyurl.com/zm2kxr4 )

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