How do the IPCC check the veracity of an Officers account after a complaint?

Philip Reynolds made this Freedom of Information request to Independent Office for Police Conduct

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Dear Independent Police Complaints Commission,

In light of Plebgate do the IPCC record instances where
Officers have been accused of manipulating evidence? Beyond, asking an Officer if he is telling the truth, how do IPCC prove theveracity of an Officers statement? It is clear from Mr. Mitchell's incident Officer's do collude to support each other and from cases like Hillsborough that statements can also be falsified. Many high profile cases show witnesses can be asked to support an Officers statement. For
the general public without the resources of Mr. Mitchell, in less serious cases without the profile of Hillsborough. The Public all over the nation need to know if the IPCC department are prepared to do more than just ask a
Policeman if his statement is true. Particularly if evidence like CCTV footage or Mobile phone texts from another party are discrepant to an Officers account. Do the IPCC expect these things to be investigated? If not, why not? To say each case is different is a cop out as I am asking
simply if conflicting evidence exists, should the Investigating Officer investigate it, or does this only happen in high profile cases. If someone is shown to have lied either as an Officer or about an Officers account.
Should they not be arrested as in Plebgate? Or is this only for high profile cases? Or not something IPCC would recommend?

Yours faithfully,

Philip Reynolds

Alison Davies,

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Dear Mr Reynolds

Please find attached an acknowledgement letter in relation to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

Alison Davies

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Alison Davies,

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Dear Mr Reynolds

Please see attached letter in relation to your recent FOI request.

Yours sincerely

A Davies

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Charlotte Peters Rock left an annotation ()

Yes. What a good question. I believe that senior police officers have lied over the last (nearly) nine years about their actions/non-actions, in respect of teh death of my father, Mr Ralph Winstanley, in Doncaster.

I will watch the response with great interest.. but will not hold my breath, since our dealings with the IPCC have thus far been abysmally poor.

Philip Reynolds left an annotation ()

Agreed Charlotte, but we can live in hope some of our public servants are honest and will do their duty.

Charlotte Peters Rock left an annotation ()

I feel that a wait of nearly nine years for anyone to 'do their duty' - for which they take our money - is far too long. This lack of action has crippled my father's blood family, but allowed his killer(s) freedom of movement. It has removed all trust.. and I take that very seriously.

If we can't trust the police, nor their overeeers at the IPCC, Where do we turn?

The IPCC is far too hand-in-glove with what it regards as 'our police and other colleagues'.. and no-one seems to have any overarching responsibility for control.

There is complete cop-out from the Home Office, and from MPs, and from government generally. No wonder the IPCC runs amuck.

Philip Reynolds left an annotation ()

I do not disagree on anything you have said Charlotte. The lack of accountability is disheartening in the extreme and I hope you and your family get the resolution you are looking for.

Talbot Munce left an annotation ()

"If we can't trust the police, nor their overeeers at the IPCC, Where do we turn?"

The courts. The sooner the public learn to forgo the IPCC and take the matter directly to civil court then the quicker we can terminate this lie factory of washed up ex-cops. Consider the Professional Standards Department of every police station as a necessary step in the court Civil Procedure Rules. Complain by all means in the hope of obtaining a remedy, but expect nothing but lies and back covering.

Gather all that they say. Persist. Gather more. Then prosecute. Their lies and excuses will then be their undoing.

www.crimebodge.com

Alison Davies,

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Dear Mr Reynolds

I refer to your recent FOI request to the IPCC and apologise for the delay in responding to you.

Please find attached our response letter.

Yours sincerely

A Davies
S&Q Support Officer

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Dear Alison Davies,

Thank you for your reply, although to be honest it leads to more questions than it answers.

Yours sincerely,

Philip Reynolds