Historic British Waterways tips on the BCN network

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Dear British Waterways Board,

I am writing to make an open government request for all the
information to which I am entitled under the freedom of information
act.

In order to assist you with this request, I am outlining my query
as specifically as possible.

If however this request is too wide or too unclear, I would be grateful if you could contact me as I understand that under the act, you are required to advise and assist requesters.

I am requesting whether,
1 British Watreways has a map of the location of it's tip sites, both current and previously owned between Oldbury and Coseley?
2. Could you confrim that Alfred Matty of Coseley undertook dredging and disposal works for British Waterways along the network?
3. How often would dredging works have been carried out between Oldbury and Coseley on the Old and New mainlines and Gower and Netherton branches prior to 1988, and the introduction of new legislation towards dredging operations?
4. Where would the most likely deposit of these materials have taken place, for example a specific BW owned site?
5. Could you confirm which part of the Rattlechain Tip site that you owned, periods of ownership and when and to whom British Waterways sold this land?
6. Is British Waterways in ownership of a piece of land at the foot of the Netherton Branch canal which bisects the towpath and the Vaughn trading estate? This derelict fenced off site was a historic Albright and Wilson tip, sold by the company in 1917 to The Vono Company. Tipping ceased in 1919.
Has British Waterways undertook any tests in the area to ensure no leacheate from this site has entered the Netherton Branch and hence the New mainline?

I understand that under the act, I should be entitled to a response
within 20 working days.
I would be grateful if you could confirm that you have received
this request. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future
via this email address.

Yours faithfully,

Mr Carroll

Chris Gray,

Dear Mr Carrol

Thank you for your request for information dated 14^th August 2010.

I understand that you have requested the following information:

1 Does British Waterways has a map of the location of its tip sites,
both current and previously owned between Oldbury and Coseley?

2. Could you confirm that Alfred Matty of Coseley undertook dredging
and disposal works for British Waterways along the network?

3. How often would dredging works have been carried out between
Oldbury and Coseley on the Old and New mainlines and Gower and Netherton
branches prior to 1988, and the introduction of new legislation towards
dredging operations?

4. Where would the most likely deposit of these materials have taken
place, for example a specific BW owned site?

5. Could you confirm which part of the Rattlechain Tip site that you
owned, periods of ownership and when and to whom British

Waterways sold this land?

6. Is British Waterways in ownership of a piece of land at the foot
of the Netherton Branch canal which bisects the towpath and the Vaughn
trading estate? This derelict fenced off site was a historic Albright and
Wilson tip, sold by the company in 1917 to The Vono Company. Tipping
ceased in 1919. Has British Waterways undertook any tests in the area to
ensure no leacheate from this site has entered the Netherton Branch and
hence the New mainline?

I am pleased to inform you that once we have confirmed the extent to which
the regulations permit the release of the information which you have
requested a response will be sent within a 20 working day timescale from
the date we received your request.

Yours Sincerely

Chris Gray

Information Officer

01942 405732

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Dear Mr Carrol

Further to my correspondence with you of 16^thAugust 2010 I am responding
to your request for all documents regarding:

1 Does British Waterways has a map of the location of its tip sites,
both current and previously owned between Oldbury and Coseley?

British Waterways does not have a map of tip sites on the Oldbury and
Cosley. Our GIS system indicates only one record of a tip in that area at
Rattlechain but it is a point rather than a mapped extent of a tip. There
was also a general practise to deposit dredgings on the towpath and down
embankments where BW owned the land. There was also sites at Rushall
Junction (Tame Valley), Moxley tip (Walsall Canal) near Bliston and the
Blue Button tip on the Bradly arm.

2. Could you confirm that Alfred Matty of Coseley undertook dredging
and disposal works for British Waterways along the network?

Alfred Matty did undertake dredging and disposal work for British
Waterways.

There were many canal based contractors who carried industrial waste such
as Alfred Mattey, Caggy Stephens and T and S Element etc, who carried
local waste products from the chemical and Iron founding industries by
boat to private tips. The Waterways trust's waterways archive may have
more information.

3. How often would dredging works have been carried out between
Oldbury and Coseley on the Old and New mainlines and Gower and Netherton
branches prior to 1988, and the introduction of new legislation towards
dredging operations?

The dredging would have been done depending on result of surveys showing
navigable depth. A significant amount of miles of the BCN network was
dredged in the 1980`s using funding from the West Midlands County Council.
The Waterways trust's waterways archive may have more information.

4. Where would the most likely deposit of these materials have taken
place, for example a specific BW owned site?

The Deposit is more than likely would have been the canal bank, local bank
staff can recall the Blue Button Tip was used to deposit some of the
dredging material.

5. Could you confirm which part of the Rattlechain Tip site that you
owned, periods of ownership and when and to whom British Waterways sold
this land?

Please see attached historic plans, showing the Rattlechain area and BW's
previous ownership and lease to S Barnett in March 1896

6. Is British Waterways in ownership of a piece of land at the foot of
the Netherton Branch canal which bisects the towpath and the Vaughn
trading estate? This derelict fenced off site was a historic Albright and
Wilson tip, sold by the company in 1917 to The Vono Company. Tipping
ceased in 1919.

Please see attached, Map of British Waterways land ownership in the
Vaughan estate area. The green lines shows the boundaries of BW's owned
Land.

7. Has British Waterways undertook any tests in the area to ensure no
leacheate from this site has entered the Netherton Branch and hence the
New mainline?

British Waterways has not undertaken any tests on this land. If issue was
a matter of pollution from adjacent land affecting the canal it would be a
pollution offence and therefore dealt with by the Environment Agency. The
EA have pollution incidents available on their public register

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Yours Sincerely

Chris Gray

Information Officer

British Waterways

01942 405732

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From: Chris Gray
Sent: 16 August 2010 14:46
To: 'Mr Carroll'
Subject: FW: Freedom of Information request - Historic British Waterways
tips on the BCN network / Information Request FOIA147/10 - Mr Carrol

Dear Mr Carrol

Thank you for your request for information dated 14^th August 2010.

I understand that you have requested the following information:

1 Does British Waterways has a map of the location of its tip sites,
both current and previously owned between Oldbury and Coseley?

2. Could you confirm that Alfred Matty of Coseley undertook dredging
and disposal works for British Waterways along the network?

3. How often would dredging works have been carried out between
Oldbury and Coseley on the Old and New mainlines and Gower and Netherton
branches prior to 1988, and the introduction of new legislation towards
dredging operations?

4. Where would the most likely deposit of these materials have taken
place, for example a specific BW owned site?

5. Could you confirm which part of the Rattlechain Tip site that you
owned, periods of ownership and when and to whom British

Waterways sold this land?

6. Is British Waterways in ownership of a piece of land at the foot
of the Netherton Branch canal which bisects the towpath and the Vaughn
trading estate? This derelict fenced off site was a historic Albright and
Wilson tip, sold by the company in 1917 to The Vono Company. Tipping
ceased in 1919. Has British Waterways undertook any tests in the area to
ensure no leacheate from this site has entered the Netherton Branch and
hence the New mainline?

I am pleased to inform you that once we have confirmed the extent to which
the regulations permit the release of the information which you have
requested a response will be sent within a 20 working day timescale from
the date we received your request.

Yours Sincerely

Chris Gray

Information Officer

01942 405732

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Mr Carroll left an annotation ()

Just so everyone is clear, Rattlechain Mere/lagoon is the area of water in Vaughn estate 2 with the clear phosphorescent glow emanating from the white sediment dumped by Albright and Wilson and Rhodia. Pretty clear I think from this picture, as are the houses now built just feet away!

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