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Birgitta Kuhlmann-Muller

Dear Staff at wirral borough council

At a recent FOI request the costs for the "repair" of the area around the cave at shell beach / Hilbre Island was given as £ 65.000
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In the report for the scrutiniy committee meeting on 24th September 2019 point 4.1 states the costs as £85.000 - plus further costs to follow.
Can you please let me know

1.Which figures are correct,please.
2. What works are included in the costs?
3. Are all the hours, extra staff ( area manager from parks and open spaces, Ranger etc) spent on the island
with monitoring and cleaning operations included in the price? If not how much extra wages need to paid?
4. Wirral community patrol also deployed extra resources at Dee Lane to wait for signs to be put up, inform residents etc. This happened over the bank holiday weekend. I was told that WBC officers receive double or triple amount of pay during those weekends.Is that correct?

Yours faithfully,

Birgitta Kuhlmann-Müller

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Dear Ms Kuhlmann- Muller

 

We write in response to your recent request for information in which you
asked:

 

At a recent FOI request the costs for the "repair" of the area around the
cave at shell  beach / Hilbre Island  was given as £ 65.000.
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In the report for the scrutiny committee meeting on 24th September 2019
point 4.1 states the costs as £85.000 - plus further costs to follow.  Can
you please let me know

 

1.Which figures are correct please.

2. What works are included in the costs?

3. Are all the hours, extra staff ( area manager from parks and open
spaces, Ranger etc) spent on the island with monitoring and cleaning
operations included in the price? If not how much extra wages need to
paid?

4. Wirral  community patrol also deployed extra resources at Dee Lane to
wait for signs to be put  up, inform residents etc. This happened over the
bank  holiday weekend. I was told that WBC officers receive double or
triple amount of pay during those weekends. Is that correct?

 

 

In response Wirral Council can advise as follows.

 

1.           The total of original contract sum was £77,455.66, which
included a pre-contract payment of £9,000 for the pre-ordering the sand
stone (due to the long delivery dates).  A revised order was placed for
£68,455.66 for the main body of the works (excluding the pre-ordered
stone).  The estimated cost was subsequently reduced to £56,515.41 +
£9,000 (pre-ordered stone) = £65,515.  This was the contract cost as given
in the previous FOI you referred to.

 

2.           Included in those costs were the following:

o Professional Fees charged @ 17%  £11,137
o Safety Signage, supervision of site following fire, site access
equipment, safety barriers came to a total of £8,141.09

 

The amount given at Overview & Scrutiny Committee was an estimate based on
the safety signage, barriers, clean up that was activated i.e. £85,000. 
We can confirm that the actual amount charged to date is £84,793.

 

3.           No additional wages were paid to Parks & Countryside staff. 
Time off in lieu (TOIL) will be given to those that worked additional
hours.

 

4.           1x (one) extra Officer was required for 3x (three) hrs in
addition to the officers on duty. In line with Council policy officers
receive double time for Bank Holidays.

 

 

We trust this fully answers your enquiry.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Lynette Paterson

Principal Information Management Officer

Wirral Council

Business Management - ICT

Treasury Building

Argyle Street

Birkenhead

Wirral

CH41 1AH

 

Tel: 0151 691 8201

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Birgitta Kuhlmann-Muller

Dear Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Hilbre island work costs'.
Thank you for providing me with answers to my questions.
I have however some queries.
I have written my Comments / further questions below your response.

1. The total of original contract sum was £77,455.66, which
included a pre-contract payment of £9,000 for the pre-ordering the sand
stone (due to the long delivery dates). A revised order was placed for
£68,455.66 for the main body of the works (excluding the pre-ordered
stone). The estimated cost was subsequently reduced to £56,515.41 +
£9,000 (pre-ordered stone) = £65,515. This was the contract cost as given
in the previous FOI you referred to.

Why was the estimated cost reduced and by whom?

2. Included in those costs were the following:

o Professional Fees charged @ 17% £11,137
o Safety Signage, supervision of site following fire, site access
equipment, safety barriers came to a total of £8,141.09

The amount given at Overview & Scrutiny Committee was an estimate based on
the safety signage, barriers, clean up that was activated i.e. £85,000.
We can confirm that the actual amount charged to date is £84,793.

Why wasn't there safety signage and supervision before the fire?

3. No additional wages were paid to Parks & Countryside staff.
Time off in lieu (TOIL) will be given to those that worked additional
hours.

How much TOIL will be awarded?

4. 1x (one) extra Officer was required for 3x (three) hrs in
addition to the officers on duty. In line with Council policy officers
receive double time for Bank Holidays.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully,

Birgitta Kuhlmann-Muller

InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Dear Birgitta,

Thank you for your further correspondence requesting an internal review as you have expressed dissatisfaction of the handling of your request with the responses received from the Information Management Team.

The Council will aim to respond to this within 20 working days from the receipt of your request.

If you then remain dissatisfied you have the right to complain to the Information Commissioner at https://ico.org.uk/global/contact-us/

Yours sincerely,

Chelsea Dalton
Information Management Officer
Business Management - ICT
Treasury Building
Argyle Street
Birkenhead
Wirral
CH41 1AH
Tel: 0151 666 5201
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InfoMgr, FinDMT, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council

Dear Ms Kuhlmann-Muller

 

Thank you for your follow up enquiry below.  Although you have requested
an internal review, it is considered that you have posed new
questions/sought additional clarification rather than expressed
dissatisfaction with our original response.  We have therefore answered
your new queries on that basis , thus allowing for an internal review to
be carried out if subsequently required.

 

Please see below our response to your follow up questions.

 

Why was the estimated cost reduced and by whom?

Response: The estimate was reduced by the Structural Engineer managing the
project as the items priced were no longer required i.e. bespoke hanging
scaffold, crane hire, other structural works

This often happens during projects and are captured under architect’s
instructions.

 

Why wasn't there  safety signage and supervision before the fire?

Response: The safety signage was specific following the fire; the
supervision was to ensure that debris was cleared following the fire and
that safety barriers and signs remained in situ.

 

How much TOIL  will be awarded?

Response: To date no officer has made a request for time off in lieu.

 

We trust this now fully satisfies your enquiry.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Lynette Paterson

Principal Information Management Officer

Wirral Council

Business Management - ICT

Treasury Building

Argyle Street

Birkenhead

Wirral

CH41 1AH

 

Tel: 0151 691 8201

[1][Wirral Borough Council request email]

 

 

 

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