Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out of a private vehicle

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From: name removed 23 Oct 2012 (Account suspended)

6 February 2012

Dear Common Council of the City of London,

I wish to make a Freedom of Information Request regarding health
and safety policies in the Square Mile.

Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an
injured patient out of a private vehicle

1. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected sprained ankle?

2. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected broken leg?

3. What specific policy do you have for helping a person who has
injured themselves who wishes to have a stretcher to help them get
out of a car?

4. What specific policy do you have for training people to help
people who cannot get out of a front seat passenger seat of a
5-door car?

5. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of the people man-handling an injured person out of a car?

6. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of an injured person in a car when being man-handled out of
a car in which they are sitting?

7. What specific policy do you have for emergency release of a
person who is injured from a car who refuses to be "persuaded" out
of a car and refuses to be man-handled into a wheelchair - stating
that they will ONLY come out with a stretcher/trolley to go into
hospital - and then is refused the request of a stretcher because
nurses say they are not allowed to man-handle a patient out of a
car?

I am well aware of the Olympics coming to London in 2012, and wish
to know what contingency plans are in place as well as the policies
you had in place as of 7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and
10 March 2011.

Thank you very much for your help,

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

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From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

7 February 2012

Dear Ms [last name removed],

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 (FOIA) - INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your email of 6 February 2012.

In your email you mention “patients” and “nurses”, and so we are confused, as the City of London is a local authority, and, unlike a health authority, does not have patients or employ nurses or become routinely involved in the scenarios you describe. If your request was intended for the City of London, please would you confirm this, and also explain what policies you are referring to in your final paragraph, and what is the significance of the dates.

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed] [mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 06 February 2012 17:29
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out of a private vehicle

Dear Common Council of the City of London,

I wish to make a Freedom of Information Request regarding health
and safety policies in the Square Mile.

Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an
injured patient out of a private vehicle

1. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected sprained ankle?

2. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected broken leg?

3. What specific policy do you have for helping a person who has
injured themselves who wishes to have a stretcher to help them get
out of a car?

4. What specific policy do you have for training people to help
people who cannot get out of a front seat passenger seat of a
5-door car?

5. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of the people man-handling an injured person out of a car?

6. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of an injured person in a car when being man-handled out of
a car in which they are sitting?

7. What specific policy do you have for emergency release of a
person who is injured from a car who refuses to be "persuaded" out
of a car and refuses to be man-handled into a wheelchair - stating
that they will ONLY come out with a stretcher/trolley to go into
hospital - and then is refused the request of a stretcher because
nurses say they are not allowed to man-handle a patient out of a
car?

I am well aware of the Olympics coming to London in 2012, and wish
to know what contingency plans are in place as well as the policies
you had in place as of 7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and
10 March 2011.

Thank you very much for your help,

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

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From: name removed 23 Oct 2012 (Account suspended)

7 February 2012

Dear COL - EB - Information Officer,

From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

7 February 2012
Dear Ms [last name removed],

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 (FOIA) - INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your email of 6 February 2012.

In your email you mention “patients” and “nurses”, and so we are
confused, as the City of London is a local authority, and, unlike a
health authority, does not have patients or employ nurses or become
routinely involved in the scenarios you describe. If your request
was intended for the City of London, please would you confirm this,
and also explain what policies you are referring to in your final
paragraph, and what is the significance of the dates.

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

Dear Information Officer,

Thank you very much for your quick acknowledgement of my request.

I made mention of "nurses" and "patients" because there are many
councils in England which have partnerships with GP consortia and
PCTs and hospitals, especially in view of the new Health and Social
Care Bill going through parliament.

That is why I am hoping that you will be able to tell me what
policy you have in place - perhaps in conjunction with multiple
agencies or partnerships - so as to effect emergency release of a
patient - or an injured person - whichever that may be - from a car
or other private vehicle that is not an Emergency Services vehicle
per se such as an LAS ambulance or air ambulance or police vehicle
or fire service vehicle.

The reference to nurses is because I am aware that the Department
of Health has informed me that there is no NHS nationwide policy on
manual handling and transfer of injured people in private vehicles
- and of course with the Olympics coming to London in 2012 you will
no doubt be arranging for all kinds of emergency scenarios, and
hence my data access request for your policy on this very subject.

Thank you very much for your kind help.

With best wishes for a very successful and safe Olympics,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

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From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

7 February 2012

Dear Ms [last name removed],

Thank you for your clarification.

It could perhaps also assist us in locating any information if you would
let us know what may be the significance of the dates you mention, ie of
7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and 10 March 2011.

With thanks.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed]
[mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 07 February 2012 14:34
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Re: Request for Information to City of London

Dear Information Officer,

Thank you very much for your quick acknowledgement of my request.

I made mention of "nurses" and "patients" because there are many
councils in England which have partnerships with GP consortia and
PCTs and hospitals, especially in view of the new Health and Social
Care Bill going through parliament.

That is why I am hoping that you will be able to tell me what
policy you have in place - perhaps in conjunction with multiple
agencies or partnerships - so as to effect emergency release of a
patient - or an injured person - whichever that may be - from a car
or other private vehicle that is not an Emergency Services vehicle
per se such as an LAS ambulance or air ambulance or police vehicle
or fire service vehicle.

The reference to nurses is because I am aware that the Department
of Health has informed me that there is no NHS nationwide policy on
manual handling and transfer of injured people in private vehicles
- and of course with the Olympics coming to London in 2012 you will
no doubt be arranging for all kinds of emergency scenarios, and
hence my data access request for your policy on this very subject.

Thank you very much for your kind help.

With best wishes for a very successful and safe Olympics,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

_____________________________________________
From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Sent: 07 February 2012 14:11
To: '[FOI #104895 email]'
Subject: Re: Request for Information to City of London

Dear Ms [last name removed],

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 (FOIA) - INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your email of 6 February 2012.

In your email you mention "patients" and "nurses", and so we are
confused, as the City of London is a local authority, and, unlike a
health authority, does not have patients or employ nurses or become
routinely involved in the scenarios you describe. If your request was
intended for the City of London, please would you confirm this, and also
explain what policies you are referring to in your final paragraph, and
what is the significance of the dates.

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed]
[mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 06 February 2012 17:29
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Health and Safety Policies of
Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out of a private
vehicle

Dear Common Council of the City of London,

I wish to make a Freedom of Information Request regarding health
and safety policies in the Square Mile.

Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an
injured patient out of a private vehicle

1. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected sprained ankle?

2. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected broken leg?

3. What specific policy do you have for helping a person who has
injured themselves who wishes to have a stretcher to help them get
out of a car?

4. What specific policy do you have for training people to help
people who cannot get out of a front seat passenger seat of a
5-door car?

5. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of the people man-handling an injured person out of a car?

6. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of an injured person in a car when being man-handled out of
a car in which they are sitting?

7. What specific policy do you have for emergency release of a
person who is injured from a car who refuses to be "persuaded" out
of a car and refuses to be man-handled into a wheelchair - stating
that they will ONLY come out with a stretcher/trolley to go into
hospital - and then is refused the request of a stretcher because
nurses say they are not allowed to man-handle a patient out of a
car?

I am well aware of the Olympics coming to London in 2012, and wish
to know what contingency plans are in place as well as the policies
you had in place as of 7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and
10 March 2011.

Thank you very much for your help,

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

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From: name removed 23 Oct 2012 (Account suspended)

7 February 2012

From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

7 February 2012
Dear Ms [last name removed],

Thank you for your clarification.

It could perhaps also assist us in locating any information if you
would
let us know what may be the significance of the dates you mention,
ie of
7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and 10 March 2011.

With thanks.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

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7 February 2012

Dear COL - EB - Information Officer,

Thank you very much again for your speedy return to me.

Certainly I will explain the significance of those dates in March
2011 for I have requested from the Department of Health how people
who are unable to get out of a car can be extricated.

Unfortunately there is NO NATIONAL STANDARD POLICY for emergency
release of an injured person - whether or not it be nurses treating
a patient - or just police officers or LAS personnel or fire
personnel or coastguard - or paramedics - or even a lay person - a
person who is trying to help another person out of a car.

I am asking the same question of other authorities to find out what
their response was too, because I have mad a RIDDOR report on 9 May
2011 about an instance where nurses said they could not remove a
front-seat passenger from a 5-door car because they said that they
were not allowed to man-handle a patient out of a car.

Thus I want to know what your policies were at that time, and what
they are now in readiness for the Olympics.

This is why I believe that there must be a true national policy for
health and safety especially when the World will be coming for the
Olympics this summer.

Thank you very much for your help

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

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From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

7 February 2012

Dear Ms [last name removed],

Thank you for the clarification.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed] [mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 07 February 2012 17:25
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: RE: Request for Information to City of London

Dear COL - EB - Information Officer,

Thank you very much again for your speedy return to me.

Certainly I will explain the significance of those dates in March
2011 for I have requested from the Department of Health how people
who are unable to get out of a car can be extricated.

Unfortunately there is NO NATIONAL STANDARD POLICY for emergency
release of an injured person - whether or not it be nurses treating
a patient - or just police officers or LAS personnel or fire
personnel or coastguard - or paramedics - or even a lay person - a
person who is trying to help another person out of a car.

I am asking the same question of other authorities to find out what
their response was too, because I have mad a RIDDOR report on 9 May
2011 about an instance where nurses said they could not remove a
front-seat passenger from a 5-door car because they said that they
were not allowed to man-handle a patient out of a car.

Thus I want to know what your policies were at that time, and what
they are now in readiness for the Olympics.

This is why I believe that there must be a true national policy for
health and safety especially when the World will be coming for the
Olympics this summer.

Thank you very much for your help

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

_____________________________________________
From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Sent: 07 February 2012 15:03
To: '[first name removed] [last name removed]'
Subject: RE: Request for Information to City of London

Dear Ms [last name removed],

Thank you for your clarification.

It could perhaps also assist us in locating any information if you would let us know what may be the significance of the dates you mention, ie of 7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and 10 March 2011.

With thanks.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed] [mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 07 February 2012 14:34
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Re: Request for Information to City of London

Dear Information Officer,

Thank you very much for your quick acknowledgement of my request.

I made mention of "nurses" and "patients" because there are many
councils in England which have partnerships with GP consortia and
PCTs and hospitals, especially in view of the new Health and Social
Care Bill going through parliament.

That is why I am hoping that you will be able to tell me what
policy you have in place - perhaps in conjunction with multiple
agencies or partnerships - so as to effect emergency release of a
patient - or an injured person - whichever that may be - from a car
or other private vehicle that is not an Emergency Services vehicle
per se such as an LAS ambulance or air ambulance or police vehicle
or fire service vehicle.

The reference to nurses is because I am aware that the Department
of Health has informed me that there is no NHS nationwide policy on
manual handling and transfer of injured people in private vehicles
- and of course with the Olympics coming to London in 2012 you will
no doubt be arranging for all kinds of emergency scenarios, and
hence my data access request for your policy on this very subject.

Thank you very much for your kind help.

With best wishes for a very successful and safe Olympics,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

_____________________________________________
From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Sent: 07 February 2012 14:11
To: '[FOI #104895 email]'
Subject: Re: Request for Information to City of London

Dear Ms [last name removed],

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 (FOIA) - INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your email of 6 February 2012.

In your email you mention “patients” and “nurses”, and so we are confused, as the City of London is a local authority, and, unlike a health authority, does not have patients or employ nurses or become routinely involved in the scenarios you describe. If your request was intended for the City of London, please would you confirm this, and also explain what policies you are referring to in your final paragraph, and what is the significance of the dates.

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Information Officer
City of London
Tel: 020-7332 1209
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed] [mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 06 February 2012 17:29
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out of a private vehicle

Dear Common Council of the City of London,

I wish to make a Freedom of Information Request regarding health
and safety policies in the Square Mile.

Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an
injured patient out of a private vehicle

1. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected sprained ankle?

2. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a
vehicle who has sustained a suspected broken leg?

3. What specific policy do you have for helping a person who has
injured themselves who wishes to have a stretcher to help them get
out of a car?

4. What specific policy do you have for training people to help
people who cannot get out of a front seat passenger seat of a
5-door car?

5. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of the people man-handling an injured person out of a car?

6. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and
safety of an injured person in a car when being man-handled out of
a car in which they are sitting?

7. What specific policy do you have for emergency release of a
person who is injured from a car who refuses to be "persuaded" out
of a car and refuses to be man-handled into a wheelchair - stating
that they will ONLY come out with a stretcher/trolley to go into
hospital - and then is refused the request of a stretcher because
nurses say they are not allowed to man-handle a patient out of a
car?

I am well aware of the Olympics coming to London in 2012, and wish
to know what contingency plans are in place as well as the policies
you had in place as of 7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and
10 March 2011.

Thank you very much for your help,

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

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From: name removed 23 Oct 2012 (Account suspended)

3 March 2012

3 March 2012

Dear Common Council of the City of London, Mr Turner MP for the
Isle of Wight, Mr Lansley Secretary of State for Health, Mr Cameron
Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Common Council of the
City of London's handling of my FOI request 'Health and Safety
Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out
of a private vehicle'.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/he...

I have now been given information by the London Fire Brigade how
they get an injured person out of a car. I was hoping that you
would have a similar plan as contingencies against anyone being
injured in a car and needing assistance to get out.

If you do not, may I commend to you that you check the London Fire
Brigade's Freedom of Information Request response wherein they
provided this EXCELLENT document showing just HOW to get someone
out of a car.

I believe that it could be a very useful tool in an emergency.

Good luck for the Olympics.

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for legal reform, liberty, truth and justice

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From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

5 March 2012

Dear Ms [last name removed],

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 (FOIA) - INFORMATION REQUEST

Following your request for information of 6 February 2012, and our
acknowledgement of 7 February 2012, the City of London (CoL) response is
below.

In addition to this response, I note that on 3 March 2012 you sent a
further email to the CoL requesting an internal review. However, as we are
only responding to your original request today, within the statutory
compliance period (the deadline being today), we are not sure on what
grounds you were requesting an internal review. As a result we are unable
to undertake an internal review unless you are able to clarify this point.

In response to your request, the CoL has no Health & Safety defined
standard for handling people. There is of course much guidance and
recognised methods for best achieving a rescue and to handle people, but
this is dependent on many factors, especially during an emergency rescue.
These factors make it difficult to lay down a national Policy, especially
when confronted with an emergency situation where preservation of life,
not necessarily Health & Safety legislation is at the fore.

The legal instrument that informs Manual Handling processes are The Manual
Handling Regulations 1992 and LOLER (Lifting operations and Lifting
Equipment Regulations 1998.  All simply require an assessment of the risk
and developing a process that minimises injury to the lifter, not
necessarily to a person being lifted. 

For information on the methods used for rescue we would recommend making a
request from the London Ambulance Service or the Fire Brigade.  The City
of London does not effect rescues of this nature and cannot provide any
further information on this matter. If you’d like to investigate the
formation of national safety policy for rescues of this type I suggest you
approach the HSE – Health & Safety Executive to produce such a Policy or
indeed any of the Emergency Services.

If you wish to make a complaint about the way the CoL has managed your
enquiry, please make your complaint in writing to email address:
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For a link to the CoL’s FOI complaints procedure, please visit the
following page: [2]www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Feedback, at the end of which
is located the FOI complaints procedure.

If, having used the CoL’s FOI Complaints Procedure, you are still
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The Information Commissioner is a Crown appointment, responsible for
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Commissioner, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
Telephone: (01625) 545700. Website: [3]www.ico.gov.uk.

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From: [first name removed] [last name removed]
[6][mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 06 February 2012 17:29
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Health and Safety Policies of
Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out of a private
vehicle

Dear Common Council of the City of London,

    

I wish to make a Freedom of Information Request regarding health and
safety policies in the Square Mile.

    

Health and Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured
patient out of a private vehicle

    

1. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a vehicle
who has sustained a suspected sprained ankle?

    

2. What specific policy do you have for helping a patient out of a vehicle
who has sustained a suspected broken leg?

    

3. What specific policy do you have for helping a person who has injured
themselves who wishes to have a stretcher to help them get out of a car?

    

4. What specific policy do you have for training people to help people who
cannot get out of a front seat passenger seat of a 5-door car?

    

5. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and safety
of the people man-handling an injured person out of a car?

    

6. What specific policy do you have for protecting the health and safety
of an injured person in a car when being man-handled out of a car in which
they are sitting?

    

7. What specific policy do you have for emergency release of a person who
is injured from a car who refuses to be "persuaded" out of a car and
refuses to be man-handled into a wheelchair – stating that they will ONLY
come out with a stretcher/trolley to go into hospital - and then is
refused the request of a stretcher because nurses say they are not allowed
to man-handle a patient out of a car?

    

I am well aware of the Olympics coming to London in 2012, and wish to know
what contingency plans are in place as well as the policies you had in
place as of 7 March 2011, 8 March 2011, 9 March 2011 and 10 March 2011.

    

Thank you very much for your help,

   

Yours sincerely,

  

[first name removed] [last name removed]

    

Campaigner for Liberty, Truth and Justice

    

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From: name removed 23 Oct 2012 (Account suspended)

5 March 2012

Dear Common Council of the City of London,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of
Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Common Council of the
City of London's handling of my FOI request 'Health and Safety
Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out
of a private vehicle'.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is
available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/he...

I believe that there will need to be a review of what is required
for the Olympics and when I received the London Fire Brigade's
Response to my FOI asking for similar information, they did provide
a very helpful document showing how they get a person out of a car.

And yesterday on television there was an instance where London Fire
Brigade had to cut the top off a car in order to rescue an injured
person, use a spinal board and then several people had to lift the
injured person out of the car.

That is why I ask what are your means of getting a person out of a
car.

Unfortunately, the HSE only involve themselves with employers and
employees, and thus if you could contact them as an employer, they
would be able to assist you.

And with the Olympics so close to us, I thought this might assist
you.

With best wishes, and thank you very much for the information
today,

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

Campaigner for legal reform, liberty, truth and justice

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From: COL - EB - Information Officer
Common Council of the City of London

6 March 2012

Dear Ms [last name removed],

I am writing in response to your email of 5 March 2012, in which you
requested an internal review of the City of London (CoL) response to your
request for information.

You requested information relating to the CoL's policies with regards to
manual handling and transferring injured people from private vehicles in
various circumstances.

As explained in our response to your request, the CoL has no policies in
place regarding the removal of injured persons/patients from private
vehicles.

Therefore, we have responded to your request in full. There is no other
information to provide.

It is not clear to us, therefore, on what basis you are requesting a
review.

If you could clarify on what basis you are requesting a review, we shall
respond accordingly.

In the meantime, we would expand on our response, as follows, in case it
is of assistance.

In the event of a road traffic incident, or indeed any occasion where
there may be an injured person in a vehicle, CoL employees will not be
responsible for attempting to rescue injured people from such vehicles as
part of their role. The CoL is a local authority (Local Government) and,
as do other local authorities, it relies on the emergency services
(Police, Fire Brigade, Ambulance Service) to manage rescues of this
nature, as they are trained specifically in this line of work. It is not
the responsibility of local authority employees to rescue injured people,
and it is also unlikely that CoL employees will be first on the scene in
this type of situation in any case, as the emergency services are likely
to be called, and the CoL is not an emergency service.

Additionally, you may be aware that the City of London does have its own
police force, the City of London Police (COLP), and, as an emergency
service, they may have policies related to the subject of your request.
However, the COLP are a separate body from the CoL for the purposes of
compliance with the FOIA, and should you wish to contact them to see if
they have any such policies, their contact details can be found at:
[1]http://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/CityPo....

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Yours sincerely,

Information Officer

Town Clerk's Department

City of London

Guildhall

London  EC2P 2EJ

Tel: 020-7332 1209

Email: [2][Common Council of the City of London request email]

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-----Original Message-----
From: [first name removed] [last name removed]
[[4]mailto:[FOI #104895 email]]
Sent: 05 March 2012 16:49
To: COL - EB - Information Officer
Subject: Internal review of Freedom of Information request - Health and
Safety Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out
of a private vehicle

     Dear Common Council of the City of London,

    

     Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of

     Information reviews.

    

     I am writing to request an internal review of Common Council of the

     City of London's handling of my FOI request 'Health and Safety

     Policies of Manual Handling and Transfer of an injured patient out

     of a private vehicle'.

    

     A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is

     available on the Internet at this address:

    
[5]http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/he...

    

     I believe that there will need to be a review of what is required

     for the Olympics and when I received the London Fire Brigade's

     Response to my FOI asking for similar information, they did provide

     a very helpful document showing how they get a person out of a car.

    

     And yesterday on television there was an instance where London Fire

     Brigade had to cut the top off a car in order to rescue an injured

     person, use a spinal board and then several people had to lift the

     injured person out of the car.

    

     That is why I ask what are your means of getting a person out of a

     car.

    

     Unfortunately, the HSE only involve themselves with employers and

     employees, and thus if you could contact them as an employer, they

     would be able to assist you.

    

     And with the Olympics so close to us, I thought this might assist

     you.

    

     With best wishes, and thank you very much for the information

     today,

    

     Yours sincerely,

    

     [first name removed] [last name removed]

    

     Campaigner for legal reform, liberty, truth and justice

    

    

    

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From: name removed 23 Oct 2012 (Account suspended)

6 March 2012

6 March 2012

Dear COL - EB - Information Officer,and Mr Turner MP for the Isle
of Wight,

Thank you for letting me know about the City of London Police.

As the Council, though, I had believed, perhaps erroneously, that
you would have policies in place for the Olympics irrespective of
whether or not you yourselves and your employees actually provided
the services.

And, as such, I had hoped that you would have such details.

But clearly you do not.

Thank you very much for your help and I wish you well for a
wonderful Olympics this summer.

Yours sincerely,

[first name removed] [last name removed]

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