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Dear City of Glasgow College,

I am requesting the following information under FOISA:

Are City of Glasgow College responsible for the purchase of the hanging plane, which hangs from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus?

If so, please advise the cost of this article?

Please advise the cost of installation of this article?

Please supply any relevant invoices, personal information may be redacted.

Yours faithfully,

John Murray

Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information

Ref No: 33/16-17

Thank you for your email sent on 03 03 17 requesting information from City
of Glasgow College. Your requests are being dealt with under the terms of
the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and will be answered within
twenty working days.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(0141 375 6807)

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59677128
 
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>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 03/03/2017
13:26 >>>
Dear City of Glasgow College,
I am requesting the following information under FOISA:
Are City of Glasgow College responsible for the purchase of the hanging
plane, which hangs from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the
new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus?
If so, please advise the cost of this article?
Please advise the cost of installation of this article?
Please supply any relevant invoices, personal information may be redacted.
Yours faithfully,
John Murray
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Dear Ann Butcher,

Please clarify if your college has a hanging plane, which hangs from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus?

I have been trying to ascertain exactly who purchased this item and how much it cost for some time now, in your original response to my FOI - https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

You Stated “The items in question were not individually specified by the College and hence we neither have a purchase order nor a separately identifiable cost for either item.”

However, I have been tenacious in resolving the mystery of “Who bought the Hanging (or Vanity) Plane, I refer you to the following responses, where each entity claims they did not purchase this hanging plane and that the Scottish Government, Scottish Future Trust and the Scottish Funding Council are not responsible for the purchase of the hanging plane, and in particular Scottish Futures Trust are laying the responsibility at the City of Glasgow.

Now Someone has procured this hanging plane, no one appears to be taking responsibility for this procurement, therefore I would respectfully suggest that you consider your response very carefully before answering as I will escalate this case to the information commissioner as this is the public purse we are talking about here.

Also, another thought occurred to me, if this hanging plane has been purchased using funding that attracts a unitary charge, I would request the TOTAL cost of said item over the term of the NPD contract.

Therefore if the City of Glasgow College did not procure this hanging plane, I would be grateful if you could direct me to the entity that did procure this hanging plane.

Scottish Government Response
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Scottish Future Trust Response
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...

Scottish Funding Council Response
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...

Yours sincerely,

John Murray

Dear Ann Butcher,

I have now been supplied with photographic evidence of said article hanging from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus.

This article may be be considered a drone and not if fact a plane, I am unsure. However I would be grateful if you could include Drone within the scope of this request.

Yours sincerely,

John Murray

Dear Ann Butcher,

In addition to the above, to be helpful to the college in answering this request, I have been advised by the Scottish Government the following:

"Thank you for your further correspondence concerning the hanging plane at City of Glasgow College. You will be aware that the Scottish Government have already provided you with a response in relation to any information we held on the above subject. It is possible that direct contact with City of Glasgow College may help you to obtain an answer to the question of the cost of the item. "

May I respectfully suggest that you consult your asset register to ascertain the purchase price, installation costs, maintenance costs (if any), current value, the cost of annual insurance of said 'ASSET' and please also advise the role of the person or college official whom authorised the purchase of said 'ASSET'and/or ARTICLE that is hamging from the Mezzanine Floor in the City of Glasgow College.

If this article/asset does not appear on your asset register as an asset to The City of Glasgow College, or there is no purchase order for this asset/article please advise me of the entity who did procure this asset/article?

Thanking you for your co-operation in this matter.

Yours sincerely,

John Murray

Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information

Ref No: 39/16-17

Thank you for your email sent on 19 03 17 and received on 20 03
17 requesting information from City of Glasgow College. Your requests are
being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland)
Act 2002 and will be answered within twenty working days.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(0141 375 6807)

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>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 19/03/2017
12:06 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
In addition to the above, to be helpful to the college in answering this
request, I have been advised by the Scottish Government the following:
"Thank you for your further correspondence concerning the hanging plane at
City of Glasgow College. You will be aware that the Scottish Government
have already provided you with a response in relation to any information
we held on the above subject. It is possible that direct contact with City
of Glasgow College may help you to obtain an answer to the question of the
cost of the item. "
May I respectfully suggest that you consult your asset register to
ascertain the purchase price, installation costs, maintenance costs (if
any), current value, the cost of annual insurance of said 'ASSET' and
please also advise the role of the person or college official whom
authorised the purchase of said 'ASSET'and/or ARTICLE that is hamging from
the Mezzanine Floor in the City of Glasgow College.
If this article/asset does not appear on your asset register as an asset
to The City of Glasgow College, or there is no purchase order for this
asset/article please advise me of the entity who did procure this
asset/article?
Thanking you for your co-operation in this matter.
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Request for Information

Ref No: 33/16-17 (Part 1)

We have treated your emails dated 3rd, 11th and 13th March 2017, which all
focus on the hanging model plane in our City Campus mezzanine area, as one
request in terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 but for
ease will respond to each of your 3 emails respectively as Parts 1, 2 and
3.

We refer to our responses dated 13th September 2016 and 20th March 2017
and confirm as follows, with the addition of some clarification to ensure
that your request is answered in full:
Are City of Glasgow College responsible for the purchase of the hanging
plane, which hangs from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the
new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus?
If so, please advise the cost of this article?
Please advise the cost of installation of this article?
Please supply any relevant invoices, personal information may be redacted.
This item formed part of GLQ’s overall design response to a very detailed
project brief for the new campus. The item in question was not
individually specified and purchased by the College and hence we neither
have a purchase order nor a separately identifiable cost for the item or
its installation; neither do we have any invoices.

By way of explanation the College specified that each main curriculum area
of the College should have a ‘threshold’ space which helped give an
indication of its identity. Hence the aircraft and adjacent seating area
close to the training aircraft facility was proposed by the designers to
delineate the ‘tourism’ area of curriculum. This feature was GLQ’s
interpretation of the College’s Requirements for a clear sense of identity
for our curriculum areas.

If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the
right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be
submitted within 40 working days of the date of receipt of the response to
your original letter and should be addressed to: Paul Clark, College
Secretary.

Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a
decision ([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(Tel 0141 375 6807)

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[5][IMG]
City of Glasgow College | Scottish Charity Number SCO36198 | VAT Number
59677128
 
DISCLAIMER :- This email, together with any attachments, may be
confidential and the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the
intended recipient, please notify the sender of this email immediately,
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personal views represented herein. Email communications may be subject to
interception by third parties or possible data corruption and City of
Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
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>>> Ann Butcher 03/03/2017 14:29 >>>
(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information
Ref No: 33/16-17
Thank you for your email sent on 03 03 17 requesting information from City
of Glasgow College. Your requests are being dealt with under the terms of
the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and will be answered within
twenty working days.
If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
Yours sincerely
PAUL CLARK
College Secretary
(0141 375 6807)
>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 03/03/2017
13:26 >>>
Dear City of Glasgow College,
I am requesting the following information under FOISA:
Are City of Glasgow College responsible for the purchase of the hanging
plane, which hangs from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the
new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus?
If so, please advise the cost of this article?
Please advise the cost of installation of this article?
Please supply any relevant invoices, personal information may be redacted.
Yours faithfully,
John Murray
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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Request for Information

Ref No: 33/16-17 (Part 2)

We have treated your emails dated 3rd, 11th and 13th March 2017, which all
focus on the hanging model plane in our City Campus mezzanine area, as one
request in terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 but for
ease will respond to each of your 3 emails respectively as Parts 1, 2 and
3.

Please clarify if your college has a hanging plane, which hangs from the
mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of Glasgow Cathedral
Street Campus?
We can confirm that we have a large scale model aircraft suspended in our
mezzanine area at our City Campus.

I have been trying to ascertain exactly who purchased this item and how
much it cost for some time now, in your original response to my FOI -
[1]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

You Stated “The items in question were not individually specified by the
College and hence we neither have a purchase order nor a separately
identifiable cost for either item.”
However, I have been tenacious in resolving the mystery of “Who bought the
Hanging (or Vanity) Plane, I refer you to the following responses, where
each entity claims they did not purchase this hanging plane and that the
Scottish Government, Scottish Future Trust and the Scottish Funding
Council are not responsible for the purchase of the hanging plane, and in
particular Scottish Futures Trust are laying the responsibility at the
City of Glasgow.
Now Someone has procured this hanging plane, no one appears to be taking
responsibility for this procurement, therefore I would respectfully
suggest that you consider your response very carefully before answering as
I will escalate this case to the information commissioner as this is the
public purse we are talking about here.
Also, another thought occurred to me, if this hanging plane has been
purchased using funding that attracts a unitary charge, I would request
the TOTAL cost of said item over the term of the NPD contract.
Therefore if the City of Glasgow College did not procure this hanging
plane, I would be grateful if you could direct me to the entity that did
procure this hanging plane.
For background we refer to our responses dated 13th September 2016, 20th
March 2017 and to Part 1 of our response of today's date and would clarify
as follows:
This item formed part of GLQ’s overall design response to a very detailed
project brief for the new campus. As a single contract we did not receive
a detailed breakdown that indicated costs per space or item. The item in
question was not individually specified and procured by the College and
consequently ,as you state above, we neither have a purchase order nor a
separately identifiable cost for the item. In terms of Section 17 (1) of
the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 we do not hold this
information.
The College is the procuring authority for the whole campus and its
contents. We procured a 'turn key solution from GLQ' with an overall bid
delivered and evaluated alongside other bidding consortia via a strict
evaluation strategy. Therefore it may be that Glasgow Learning Quarter
(GLQ) holds this information.

If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the
right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be
submitted within 40 working days of the date of receipt of the response to
your original letter and should be addressed to: Paul Clark, College
Secretary.

Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a
decision ([2]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(Tel 0141 375 6807)

[3][IMG] [4][IMG] [5][IMG]
[6][IMG]
City of Glasgow College | Scottish Charity Number SCO36198 | VAT Number
59677128
 
DISCLAIMER :- This email, together with any attachments, may be
confidential and the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the
intended recipient, please notify the sender of this email immediately,
delete this message and note that you are not permitted to print, copy,
disclose or use the content in any way. City of Glasgow College does not
accept any legal responsibility of liability (including in negligence) for
the contents of this communication, nor does it endorse or accept any
personal views represented herein. Email communications may be subject to
interception by third parties or possible data corruption and City of
Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
communications altered after transmission from the college network.

>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 11/03/2017
01:17 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
Please clarify if your college has a hanging plane, which hangs from the
mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of Glasgow Cathedral
Street Campus?
I have been trying to ascertain exactly who purchased this item and how
much it cost for some time now, in your original response to my FOI -
[7]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
You Stated “The items in question were not individually specified by the
College and hence we neither have a purchase order nor a separately
identifiable cost for either item.”
However, I have been tenacious in resolving the mystery of “Who bought the
Hanging (or Vanity) Plane, I refer you to the following responses, where
each entity claims they did not purchase this hanging plane and that the
Scottish Government, Scottish Future Trust and the Scottish Funding
Council are not responsible for the purchase of the hanging plane, and in
particular Scottish Futures Trust are laying the responsibility at the
City of Glasgow.
Now Someone has procured this hanging plane, no one appears to be taking
responsibility for this procurement, therefore I would respectfully
suggest that you consider your response very carefully before answering as
I will escalate this case to the information commissioner as this is the
public purse we are talking about here.
Also, another thought occurred to me, if this hanging plane has been
purchased using funding that attracts a unitary charge, I would request
the TOTAL cost of said item over the term of the NPD contract. 
Therefore if the City of Glasgow College did not procure this hanging
plane, I would be grateful if you could direct me to the entity that did
procure this hanging plane.
Scottish Government Response
[8]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
Scottish Future Trust Response
[9]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...
Scottish Funding Council Response
[10]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Request for Information

Ref No: 33/16-17 (Part 3)

We have treated your emails dated 3rd, 11th and 13th March 2017, which all
focus on the hanging model plane in our City Campus mezzanine area, as one
request in terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 but for
ease will respond to each of your 3 emails respectively as Parts 1, 2 and
3.

I have now been supplied with photographic evidence of said article
hanging from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of
Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus.
This article may be considered a drone and not if fact a plane, I am
unsure. However I would be grateful if you could include Drone within the
scope of this request.
We can confirm that this item is not a drone.

If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the
right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be
submitted within 40 working days of the date of receipt of the response to
your original letter and should be addressed to: Paul Clark, College
Secretary.

Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a
decision ([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(Tel 0141 375 6807)

[2][IMG] [3][IMG] [4][IMG]
[5][IMG]
City of Glasgow College | Scottish Charity Number SCO36198 | VAT Number
59677128
 
DISCLAIMER :- This email, together with any attachments, may be
confidential and the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the
intended recipient, please notify the sender of this email immediately,
delete this message and note that you are not permitted to print, copy,
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accept any legal responsibility of liability (including in negligence) for
the contents of this communication, nor does it endorse or accept any
personal views represented herein. Email communications may be subject to
interception by third parties or possible data corruption and City of
Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
communications altered after transmission from the college network.

>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 13/03/2017
07:25 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
I have now been supplied with photographic evidence of said article
hanging from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of
Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus.
This article may be be considered a drone and not if fact a plane, I am
unsure. However I would be grateful if you could include Drone within the
scope of this request.
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Dear Ann Butcher,

Can you please confirm if you will be contacting GLA for the original information requested regarding the cost of the model plane and a copy of the invoice?

Please also have GLA advise whether the cost of the item, insurance etc, will incur additional unitary charges or debt interest over the full term of the contract?

If so I require to total cost over the 26 year period? Broken down between capital costs and unitary payments/debt interest.

Under the circumstances of your failure to adhere to FOISA statutory duty in the first instance, I would appreciate a speedy response to this.

Yours sincerely,

John Murray

Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information

Ref No: 43/16-17

Thank you for your email sent on 01 04 17 and received on 03 04 17
requesting information from City of Glasgow College. Your requests are
being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland)
Act 2002 and will be answered within twenty working days.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(0141 375 6807)

[1][IMG] [2][IMG] [3][IMG]
[4][IMG]
City of Glasgow College | Scottish Charity Number SCO36198 | VAT Number
59677128
 
DISCLAIMER :- This email, together with any attachments, may be
confidential and the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the
intended recipient, please notify the sender of this email immediately,
delete this message and note that you are not permitted to print, copy,
disclose or use the content in any way. City of Glasgow College does not
accept any legal responsibility of liability (including in negligence) for
the contents of this communication, nor does it endorse or accept any
personal views represented herein. Email communications may be subject to
interception by third parties or possible data corruption and City of
Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
communications altered after transmission from the college network.

>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 01/04/2017
14:20 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
Can you please confirm if you will be contacting GLA for the original
information requested regarding the cost of the model plane and a copy of
the invoice?
Please also have GLA advise whether the cost of the item, insurance etc,
will incur additional unitary charges or debt interest over the full term
of the contract?
If so I require to total cost over the 26 year period? Broken down between
capital costs and unitary payments/debt interest.
Under the circumstances of your failure to adhere to FOISA statutory duty
in the first instance, I would appreciate a speedy response to this.
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
We refer to your Request 39 16-17 and have set out responses to your
request, pasted in italics, below:
May I respectfully suggest that you consult your asset register to
ascertain the purchase price, installation costs, maintenance costs (if
any), current value, the cost of annual insurance of said 'ASSET' and
please also advise the role of the person or college official whom
authorised the purchase of said 'ASSET'and/or ARTICLE that is hanging from
the Mezzanine Floor in the City of Glasgow College.
We do not hold any of the information you request and so in terms of
section 17 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 we are giving
you notice of this fact.
If this article/asset does not appear on your asset register as an asset
to The City of Glasgow College, or there is no purchase order for this
asset/article please advise me of the entity who did procure this
asset/article?
We refer to our responses dated 13th September 2016 and 20th March and
28th March 2017 but for ease confirm the position again as follows:
This item formed part of GLQ’s overall design response to a very detailed
project brief for the new campus. The item in question was not
individually specified and purchased by the College.
In terms of section 17 above we do not hold this information.

If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the
right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be
submitted within 40 working days of the date of receipt of the response to
your original letter and should be addressed to: Paul Clark, College
Secretary.

Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a
decision ([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(Tel 0141 375 6807)

[2][IMG] [3][IMG] [4][IMG]
[5][IMG]
City of Glasgow College | Scottish Charity Number SCO36198 | VAT Number
59677128
 
DISCLAIMER :- This email, together with any attachments, may be
confidential and the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the
intended recipient, please notify the sender of this email immediately,
delete this message and note that you are not permitted to print, copy,
disclose or use the content in any way. City of Glasgow College does not
accept any legal responsibility of liability (including in negligence) for
the contents of this communication, nor does it endorse or accept any
personal views represented herein. Email communications may be subject to
interception by third parties or possible data corruption and City of
Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
communications altered after transmission from the college network.

>>> Ann Butcher 24/03/2017 13:25 >>>
(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information
Ref No: 39/16-17
Thank you for your email sent on 19 03 17 and received on 20 03
17 requesting information from City of Glasgow College. Your requests are
being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland)
Act 2002 and will be answered within twenty working days.
If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
Yours sincerely
PAUL CLARK
College Secretary
(0141 375 6807)
>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 19/03/2017
12:06 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
In addition to the above, to be helpful to the college in answering this
request, I have been advised by the Scottish Government the following:
"Thank you for your further correspondence concerning the hanging plane at
City of Glasgow College. You will be aware that the Scottish Government
have already provided you with a response in relation to any information
we held on the above subject. It is possible that direct contact with City
of Glasgow College may help you to obtain an answer to the question of the
cost of the item. "
May I respectfully suggest that you consult your asset register to
ascertain the purchase price, installation costs, maintenance costs (if
any), current value, the cost of annual insurance of said 'ASSET' and
please also advise the role of the person or college official whom
authorised the purchase of said 'ASSET'and/or ARTICLE that is hamging from
the Mezzanine Floor in the City of Glasgow College.
If this article/asset does not appear on your asset register as an asset
to The City of Glasgow College, or there is no purchase order for this
asset/article please advise me of the entity who did procure this
asset/article?
Thanking you for your co-operation in this matter.
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Dear Ann Butcher,

Thank you for your response, you said "This item formed part of GLQ’s overall design response to a very detailed project brief for the new campus. The item in question was not
individually specified and purchased by the College. "

Therefore please confirm if this item formed part of The construction costs eligible for revenue funding support which were capped at £193.1m (inclusive of VAT) (the “Construction Cost Cap”), and were part of the NPD funding attributed to the new build?

Please also advise the projected total unitary charges over the 25 Year period?

Yours sincerely,

John Murray

Dear City of Glasgow College,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification'.

Failure to abide by the contract terms and conditions by referring any FOI request to the Third Party Contractor or give sufficient advise as to obtain the information requested in respect of the hanging model plane as described in my previous requests.

Failure to advise the total Unitary cost over a 25 year period.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...

Yours faithfully,

John Murray

Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information

Ref No: 55/16-17

Thank you for your email sent on 26 04 17 requesting information from City
of Glasgow College. Your request is being dealt with under the terms of
the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and will be answered within
twenty working days.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(0141 375 6807)

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>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 26/04/2017
23:32 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
Thank you for your response, you said "This item formed part of GLQ’s
overall design response to a very detailed project brief for the new
campus. The item in question was not
individually specified and purchased by the College. "
Therefore please confirm if  this item formed part of The construction
costs eligible for revenue funding support which were capped at £193.1m
(inclusive of VAT) (the “Construction Cost Cap”), and were part of the NPD
funding attributed to the new build?
Please also advise the projected total unitary charges over the 25 Year
period?
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Review

Ref No: 56/16-17

Thank you for your email sent on 26 04 17 requesting a review from City of
Glasgow College. Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and will be answered within
twenty working days.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(0141 375 6807)

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>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 26/04/2017
23:36 >>>
Dear City of Glasgow College,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's
handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification'.
Failure to abide by the contract terms and conditions by referring any FOI
request to the Third Party Contractor or give sufficient advise as to
obtain the information requested in respect of the hanging model plane as
described in my previous requests.
Failure to advise the total Unitary cost over a 25 year period.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[5]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...
Yours faithfully,
John Murray
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Dear Mr Murray

Request for Information
Ref No: 43/16-17: Hanging Plane - GLQ

Thank you for your email sent on 01 04 17 and received on 03 04 17. At the time we acknowledged this to be a request for information in terms of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. Having looked more closely at your request it does not appear to be a request in terms of the Act since it is asking us confirm whether or not we will contact GLQ in order to ask them for information. This is not a request for information which we hold in term of section 1(1) of the Act. However by way of assistance we would advise as follows:

For clarity the emails which sit behind this further request from you are as follows:

You sent this request in response to our email of 28 March 2017. Our email of 28 March 2017 was a response to your requests for information in relation to the hanging model plane dated 3,11 and 13 March 2017 (Ref No: 33/16-17)

Please refer to our response to your request of 27 March 2017 Ref No: 40/16-17, sent on 26 April 2017, which sets out the position in relation to the questions posed in your email of 1 April 2017. We have attached a copy of this response for ease of reference.

If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be submitted within 40 working days of the date of receipt of the response to your original letter and should be addressed to: Paul Clark, College Secretary.

Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications.

If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a decision (www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).

Yours sincerely

PAUL CLARK

College Secretary

(Tel 0141 375 6807)

Paul Clark
College Secretary/Planning
t: 0141 375 6807

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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Request for Information
Ref No: 55/16-17
Thank you for your email received on 26 04 17 where you requested
information from City of Glasgow College.  Please find below the response
from this College.
We consider this request relates to environmental information and so are
relying on the exemption contained in section 39 (2) of the Freedom of
Information (Scotland ) Act 2002 and treating this request in terms of the
Environmental Information Regulations (Scotland) 2004.
 
Therefore please confirm if  this item formed part of the construction
costs eligible for revenue funding support which were capped at £193.1m
(inclusive of VAT) (the “Construction Cost Cap”), and were part of the NPD
funding attributed to the new build?
In short - yes. The contract with GLQ provided a turn key solution which
interpreted and  addressed all of the College's requirements including
those which asked for threshold space for curriculum areas so this area is
therefore part of the total cost which will be paid back via the unitary
charge.
Please also advise the projected total unitary charges over the 25 Year
period?
This information forms  part of the Financial Model for New Campus and we
are not able to disclose this  information in terms of Regulation 10 (5)
(e) of the EIRs for the following  reasons:
• The information is commercial in nature. In  terms
of our Project Agreement with GLQ this information is identified  as
'Commercially Sensitive Information' whereby it cannot be disclosed in 
terms of
schedule 26 of the Project Agreement ' until 2 years after the First 
Phase
Actual Completion date'. This date is 17 August  2017.
• Disclosure of this information would  prejudice
substantially the commercial interests of GLQ by disclosing their  unique
pricing methodology at a juncture when we understand they are actively 
bidding
for other publicly financed work in the public and private  sector.
• The 2 year ceiling for disclosure was set  to
protect commercial confidentiality in a very competitive market  place.
•  Additionally we understand that disclosure  could
put GLQ at risk of being in material breach of their own funding 
agreements relative
to this Project Agreement which could have serious  repercussions for GLQ
and as
a consequence associated reputational  implications for the College. 
• We have carried out  further analysis as to whether
it is nevertheless in the public interest to  disclose this information
and we
deem that this is not the case for the  following reasons:
• It is in the public  interest for best value to be
secured in procurement exercises for public  sector contracts. It would
not be
in the public interest to disclose this  information and to potentially
prejudice the commercial position of GLQ at  this time.
• There is now a limited amount of time until  the
terms of schedule 26 no longer apply (17 August 2017). 
If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request, you have the
right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests should be
submitted within 40 working days of the date of receipt of the response to
your original letter and should be addressed to: Paul Clark, College
Secretary.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a
decision ([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).
Yours sincerely
PAUL CLARK
College Secretary
(Tel 0141 375 6807)

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Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
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>>> Ann Butcher 27/04/2017 12:28 >>>
(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Information
Ref No: 55/16-17
Thank you for your email sent on 26 04 17 requesting information from City
of Glasgow College. Your request is being dealt with under the terms of
the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and will be answered within
twenty working days.
If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
Yours sincerely
PAUL CLARK
College Secretary
(0141 375 6807)
>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 26/04/2017
23:32 >>>
Dear Ann Butcher,
Thank you for your response, you said "This item formed part of GLQ’s
overall design response to a very detailed project brief for the new
campus. The item in question was not
individually specified and purchased by the College. "
Therefore please confirm if  this item formed part of The construction
costs eligible for revenue funding support which were capped at £193.1m
(inclusive of VAT) (the “Construction Cost Cap”), and were part of the NPD
funding attributed to the new build?
Please also advise the projected total unitary charges over the 25 Year
period?
Yours sincerely,
John Murray

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Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

1 Attachment

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)

Dear Mr Murray

Request for Review
Ref No: 56/16-17
Thank you for your email received on 26 04 17 where you requested a review
from City of Glasgow College.  Please find attached the response from this
College.
If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a
decision ([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).
Yours sincerely
PAUL CLARK
College Secretary
(Tel 0141 375 6807)

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Glasgow College accepts no responsibility whatsoever for the content of
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>>> Ann Butcher 28/04/2017 12:01 >>>
(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
Acknowledgement of Receipt of a Request for Review
Ref No: 56/16-17
Thank you for your email sent on 26 04 17 requesting a review from City of
Glasgow College. Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and will be answered within
twenty working days.
If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
Yours sincerely
PAUL CLARK
College Secretary
(0141 375 6807)
>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 26/04/2017
23:36 >>>
Dear City of Glasgow College,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's
handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification'.
Failure to abide by the contract terms and conditions by referring any FOI
request to the Third Party Contractor or give sufficient advise as to
obtain the information requested in respect of the hanging model plane as
described in my previous requests.
Failure to advise the total Unitary cost over a 25 year period.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[6]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...
Yours faithfully,
John Murray
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Dear City of Glasgow College,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification' and subsequent requests detailed in a full history of my FOI request's and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...

Additionally I refer you to: I refer you to your publication at https://www.cityofglasgowcollege.ac.uk/s...

I will now pre-empt any attempt to refuse this request at this internal review stage on the basis that you City of Glasgow College do not hold the information I am requesting. By highlighting the fact that GLASGOW LEARNING QUARTER LIMITED (registered under number 08413842) whose registered office is Eaton Court, Maylands Avenue, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, HP2 7TR ("Project Co") has entered into a publicly funded NEW CAMPUS GLASGOW NPD PROJECT, with a project agreement with yourselves City of Glasgow College to procure the design, build, finance and maintenance of a twin site campus in Glasgow (the "New Campus"); In accordance with the Scottish Government’s NPD initiative the College conducted a competitive dialogue competition to identify the most economically advantageous tender from persons interested in being appointed the College’s private sector partner and forming an NPD company to procure the design, build, finance and maintenance of the New Campus and design and build the Halls of Residence (the "Project").

As the Procurement Authority for this New Campus Glasgow NPD Project, the City of Glasgow College a Public Body which has a legal duty in upholding standards of transparent and accountable integrity, under FOISA and EIR’s, do have an agreed mechanism to obtain the information requested being the procurement authority that appointed the College’s private sector partner registered company AND FORMING AN NPD COMPANY for the sole commercial project for New Campus Glasgow NPD Project follows:

“Project Co acknowledges that (notwithstanding the provisions of Clause 61 (Confidentiality)) the College may, acting in accordance with the Scottish Ministers Code of Practice on the Discharge of Functions of Public Authorities under Part 6 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (the "Code’), and/or having full regard to any guidance or briefings issued by the Scottish Information Commissioner or the Scottish Ministers, be obliged under the FOI(S)A, or the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations to disclose Information concerning Project Co or the Project:”

Additionally,

Project Co acknowledges that the College is subject to the requirements of the FOl(S)A and the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations and shall assist and cooperate with the College to facilitate the College’s compliance with its Information disclosure requirements pursuant to the same in the manner provided for in Clauses 62.2 to 62.8.

62.2 Where the College receives a Request for Information in relation to Information that Project Co is holding on its behalf and which the College does not hold itself the College shall refer to Project Co such Request for Information as soon as practicable and in any event within five (5) Business Days of receiving such Request for Information and Project Co shall:

62.2.1 provide the College with a copy of all such Information in the form that the College requires as soon as practicable and in any event within five (5) Business Days (or such other period as the College acting reasonably may specify) of the College’s request; and

62.2.2 provide all necessary assistance as reasonably requested by the College in connection with any such Information, to enable the College to respond to the Request for Information within the time for compliance set out in section 10 of the FOl(S)A or Regulation 5 of the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations.

62.3 Following notification under Clause 62.2, and up until such time as Project Co has provided the College with all the Information specified in Clause 62.2.1, Project Co may make representations to the College as to whether or not or on what basis Information requested should be disclosed, and whether further information should reasonably be provided in order to identify and locate the information requested, provided always that the College shall be responsible for determining at its absolute discretion:

62.3.1 whether Information is exempt from disclosure under the FOI(S)A and the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations’,

62.3.2 whether Information is to be disclosed in response to a Request for Information, and in no event shall Project Co respond directly, or allow its Sub-Contractors to respond directly, to a Request for Information unless expressly authorised to do so by the College.

62.4 Project Co shall ensure that all Information held on behalf of the College is retained for disclosure for at least the number of years (from the date it is acquired) specified in the College Policy relating to records retention and shall permit the College to inspect such Information as requested from time to time.

62.5 Project Co shall transfer to the College any Request for Information received by Project Co as soon as practicable and in any event within two (2) Business Days of receiving it.

Therefore the information requested is held by GLQ (Project Co) and is accessible to you City of Glasgow College the Procurement Authority and disclosure of such is crucial to allow a clear and transparent use of the public pound which is in the public interest, and of which the public interest test should be carried out. What is important to note is that, in the responses rejecting this Freedom of Information request’s, you the City of Glasgow College gave absolutely no analysis of why the public interest points were considered to be less substantive than those of the private sector.

With respect to the Glasgow Learning Quarter being College’s private sector partner registered company AND FORMING AN NPD COMPANY for the SOLE commercial project for New Campus Glasgow NPD I refer you to:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/compa...

Registration of Charge 084138420002, created on 29 August 2013 – Dated 10 Sep 2013
page 6 of 26:

There does not appear on the Glasgow Learning Quarter to be any other commercial interests applicable to this private sector partner registered company therefore the Scottish Information commissioner may deem an investigation into the decision not to disclose information in terms of Regulation 10 (5) (e) of the EIRs as upheld for the requester as you have previously responded stating:

The information is commercial in nature. In terms of our Project Agreement with GLQ - this information is identified as 'Commercially Sensitive Information'

Disclosure of this information would prejudice substantially the commercial interests
of GLQ (Project Co.) by disclosing their unique pricing methodology at a juncture when we
understand they are actively bidding for other publicly financed work in the public and
private sector.

The 2 year ceiling for disclosure was set to protect commercial confidentiality in a
very competitive market place.

It is in the public interest for best value to be secured in procurement exercises for
public sector contracts. It would not be in the public interest to disclose this
information and to potentially prejudice the commercial position of GLQ at this time.

I shall now look forward to a full, clear and transparent disclosure of the information I have requested.

Yours faithfully,

John Murray

Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
Request for Review
Ref No: 56/16-17
I acknowledge receipt of your request for review of our handling of your
request entitled 'Hanging Plane Clarification' which we received on 5 June
2017. We have considered the terms of your request and consider it to be
the same as your previous request for review of the same name, dated 26
April 2017, which we responded to in full on 25 May 2017.
Therefore we would highlight again that if you are not content with the
outcome of the internal review, you have the right to apply directly to
the Scottish Information Commissioner for a decision
([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).
Yours sincerely
Paul Clark
College Secretary/Planning
t: 0141 375 6807

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>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 04/06/2017
19:44 >>>
Dear City of Glasgow College,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's
handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification' and subsequent
requests detailed in a full history of my FOI request's and all
correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
[6]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...
Additionally I refer you to: I refer you to your publication at
[7]https://www.cityofglasgowcollege.ac.uk/s...
I will now pre-empt any attempt to refuse this  request at this internal
review stage on the basis that you City of Glasgow College do not hold the
information I am requesting. By highlighting the fact that GLASGOW
LEARNING QUARTER LIMITED (registered under number 08413842) whose
registered office is Eaton Court, Maylands Avenue, Hemel Hempstead,
Hertfordshire, HP2 7TR ("Project Co") has entered into a publicly funded
NEW CAMPUS GLASGOW NPD PROJECT, with a  project agreement with yourselves
City of Glasgow College to procure the design, build, finance and
maintenance of a twin site campus in Glasgow (the "New Campus"); In
accordance with the Scottish Government’s NPD initiative the College
conducted a competitive dialogue competition to identify the most
economically advantageous tender from persons interested in being
appointed the College’s private sector partner and forming an NPD company
to procure the design, build, finance and maintenance of the New Campus
and design and build the Halls of Residence (the "Project").
As the Procurement Authority for this New Campus Glasgow NPD Project, the
City of Glasgow College a Public Body which has a legal duty in upholding
standards of transparent and accountable integrity, under FOISA and EIR’s,
do have an agreed mechanism to obtain the information requested being the
procurement authority that appointed the College’s private sector partner
registered company AND FORMING AN NPD COMPANY for the sole commercial
project for New Campus Glasgow NPD Project follows:
“Project Co acknowledges that (notwithstanding the provisions of Clause 61
(Confidentiality)) the College may, acting in accordance with the Scottish
Ministers Code of Practice on the Discharge of Functions of Public
Authorities under Part 6 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002
(the "Code’), and/or having full regard to any guidance or briefings
issued by the Scottish Information Commissioner or the Scottish Ministers,
be obliged under the FOI(S)A, or the Environmental Information (Scotland)
Regulations to disclose Information concerning Project Co or the Project:”
Additionally,
Project Co acknowledges that the College is subject to the requirements of
the FOl(S)A and the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations and
shall assist and cooperate with the College to facilitate the College’s
compliance with its Information disclosure requirements pursuant to the
same in the manner provided for in Clauses 62.2 to 62.8.
62.2 Where the College receives a Request for Information in relation to
Information that Project Co is holding on its behalf and which the College
does not hold itself the College shall refer to Project Co such Request
for Information as soon as practicable and in any event within five (5)
Business Days of receiving such Request for Information and Project Co
shall:
62.2.1 provide the College with a copy of all such Information in the form
that the College requires as soon as practicable and in any event within
five (5) Business Days (or such other period as the College acting
reasonably may specify) of the College’s request; and
62.2.2 provide all necessary assistance as reasonably requested by the
College in connection with any such Information, to enable the College to
respond to the Request for Information within the time for compliance set
out in section 10 of the FOl(S)A or Regulation 5 of the Environmental
Information (Scotland) Regulations.
62.3 Following notification under Clause 62.2, and up until such time as
Project Co has provided the College with all the Information specified in
Clause 62.2.1, Project Co may make representations to the College as to
whether or not or on what basis Information requested should be disclosed,
and whether further information should reasonably be provided in order to
identify and locate the information requested, provided always that the
College shall be responsible for determining at its absolute discretion:
62.3.1 whether Information is exempt from disclosure under the FOI(S)A and
the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations’,
62.3.2 whether Information is to be disclosed in response to a Request for
Information, and in no event shall Project Co respond directly, or allow
its Sub-Contractors to respond directly, to a Request for Information
unless expressly authorised to do so by the College.
62.4 Project Co shall ensure that all Information held on behalf of the
College is retained for disclosure for at least the number of years (from
the date it is acquired) specified in the College Policy relating to
records retention and shall permit the College to inspect such Information
as requested from time to time.
62.5 Project Co shall transfer to the College any Request for Information
received by Project Co as soon as practicable and in any event within two
(2) Business Days of receiving it.
Therefore the information requested is held by GLQ (Project Co) and is
accessible to you City of Glasgow College the Procurement Authority and
disclosure of such is crucial to allow a clear and transparent use of the
public pound which is in the public interest, and of which the public
interest test should be carried out. What is important to note is that, in
the responses rejecting this Freedom of Information request’s, you the
City of Glasgow College gave absolutely no analysis of why the public
interest points were considered to be less substantive than those of the
private sector.
With respect to the Glasgow Learning Quarter being College’s private
sector partner registered company AND FORMING AN NPD COMPANY for the SOLE
commercial project for New Campus Glasgow NPD I refer you to:
[8]https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/compa...
Registration of Charge 084138420002, created on 29 August 2013 – Dated 10
Sep 2013 
page 6 of 26:
There does not appear on the Glasgow Learning Quarter to be any other
commercial interests applicable to this private sector partner registered
company therefore the Scottish Information commissioner may deem an
investigation into the decision not to disclose information in terms of
Regulation 10 (5) (e) of the EIRs as upheld for the requester as you have
previously responded stating:
The information is commercial in nature. In terms of our Project Agreement
with GLQ  - this information is identified as 'Commercially Sensitive
Information'
Disclosure of this information would prejudice substantially the
commercial interests
of GLQ (Project Co.)  by disclosing their unique pricing methodology at a
juncture when we
understand they are actively bidding for other publicly financed work in
the public and
private sector.
The 2 year ceiling for disclosure was set to protect commercial
confidentiality in a
very competitive market place.
It is in the public interest for best value to be secured in procurement
exercises for
public sector contracts. It would not be in the public interest to
disclose this
information and to potentially prejudice the commercial position of GLQ at
this time.
I shall now look forward to a full, clear and transparent disclosure of
the information I have requested.
Yours faithfully,
John Murray
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Dear City of Glasgow College,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification'.

City of Glasgow College as the procurement authority commissioned Glasgow Learning Quarter's (project Co) overall design response to a very detailed project brief for the new campus. Therefore they will have procured the model plane hanging from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus.

As such you a project

You have not answered the information I have requested from project co being:

Therefore please confirm if this item formed part of The construction costs eligible for revenue funding support which were capped at £193.1m (inclusive of VAT) (the “Construction Cost Cap”), and were part of the NPD funding attributed to the new build?

The cost of this article/model plane?

Please advise the cost of installation of this article/model Plane?

nor supplied any relevant invoices, of which personal information may be redacted.

Please also advise the projected total unitary charges over the 25 Year period?

Additionally you have not advised the current value, the cost of annual insurance of said 'ASSET' and or also advise the role of the person or college official whom authorised the purchase of said 'ASSET' and/or ARTICLE that is hanging from the Mezzanine Floor in the City of Glasgow College.

As you have stated that The information is commercial in nature. In terms
of our Project Agreement with GLQ this information is identified as
'Commercially Sensitive Information' whereby it cannot be disclosed in
terms of
schedule 26 of the Project Agreement ' until 2 years after the First
Phase
Actual Completion date'. This date is 17 August 2017.
• Disclosure of this information would prejudice
substantially the commercial interests of GLQ by disclosing their unique
pricing methodology at a juncture when we understand they are actively
bidding
for other publicly financed work in the public and private sector.
• The 2 year ceiling for disclosure was set to
protect commercial confidentiality in a very competitive market place.
• Additionally we understand that disclosure could
put GLQ at risk of being in material breach of their own funding
agreements relative
to this Project Agreement which could have serious repercussions for GLQ
and as
a consequence associated reputational implications for the College.
• We have carried out further analysis as to whether
it is nevertheless in the public interest to disclose this information
and we
deem that this is not the case for the following reasons:
• It is in the public interest for best value to be
secured in procurement exercises for public sector contracts. It would
not be
in the public interest to disclose this information and to potentially
prejudice the commercial position of GLQ at this time.
• There is now a limited amount of time until the
terms of schedule 26 no longer apply (17 August 2017).

However, As the Procurement Authority for this New Campus Glasgow NPD Project, the City of Glasgow College a Public Body which has a legal duty in upholding standards of transparent and accountable integrity, under FOISA and EIR’s, do have an agreed mechanism to obtain the information requested being the procurement authority that appointed the College’s private sector partner registered company AND FORMING AN NPD COMPANY for the sole commercial project for New Campus Glasgow NPD Project.

Please confirm if you have indeed fulfilled the agreement at 62.2 (as I have reasonable doubt that actually have done so) Where the College receives a Request for Information in relation to Information that Project Co is holding on its behalf and which the College does not hold itself the College shall refer to Project Co such Request for Information as soon as practicable and in any event within five (5) Business Days of receiving such Request for Information and Project Co shall:

62.2.1 provide the College with a copy of all such Information in the form that the College requires as soon as practicable and in any event within five (5) Business Days (or such other period as the College acting reasonably may specify) of the College’s request; and

62.2.2 provide all necessary assistance as reasonably requested by the College in connection with any such Information, to enable the College to respond to the Request for Information within the time for compliance set out in section 10 of the FOl(S)A or Regulation 5 of the Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations?

Therefore the information requested is held by GLQ (Project Co) and is accessible to you City of Glasgow College the Procurement Authority and disclosure of such is crucial to allow a clear and transparent use of the public pound which is in the public interest, and of which the public interest test should be carried out. What is important to note is that, in the responses rejecting this Freedom of Information request’s, you the City of Glasgow College gave absolutely no analysis of why the public interest points were considered to be less substantive than those of the private sector.

I also do not accept that this information is commercially sensitive as per https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/compa...

Registration of Charge 084138420002, created on 29 August 2013 – Dated 10 Sep 2013
page 6 of 26:

There does not appear on the Glasgow Learning Quarter to be any other commercial interests applicable to this private sector partner registered company for the sole purpose of this particular project.

It is in the public interest for best value to be secured in procurement exercises for
public sector contracts. It would be in the public interest to disclose this
information and there is NO potential prejudice the commercial position of GLQ at this time, given that they have no other registered commercial interests of this nature or size, due to the very detailed and specific design brief within the Further Education sector or any other sectors that the Scottish Government nor SFT have commissioned or are in their NPD pipeline.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...

Yours faithfully,

John Murray

Ann Butcher, City of Glasgow College

(Email sent on behalf of Paul Clark, College Secretary)
Dear Mr Murray
Request for Review
Ref No: 56/16-17
I acknowledge receipt of your request for review of our handling of your
request entitled 'Hanging Plane Clarification' which we received on 8 June
2017. We have considered the terms of your request and consider it to be
the same as your previous two requests for review of the same name, dated
26 April and 4 June 2017, which we responded to in full on 25 May and 7
June 2017 respectively.
Therefore we would once again highlight that if you are not content with
the outcome of the internal review, you have the right to apply directly
to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a decision
([1]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).
Yours sincerely
Paul Clark
College Secretary/Planning
t: 0141 375 6807

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>>> John Murray <[FOI #393177 email]> 08/06/2017
21:00 >>>
Dear City of Glasgow College,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information
reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of City of Glasgow College's
handling of my FOI request 'Hanging Plane Clarification'.
City of Glasgow College as the procurement authority commissioned Glasgow
Learning Quarter's (project Co) overall design response to a very detailed
project brief for the new campus. Therefore they will have procured the
model plane hanging from the mezzanine floor above the first floor at the
new City of Glasgow Cathedral Street Campus.
As such you a project
You have not answered  the information I have requested from project co
being:
Therefore please confirm if this item formed part of The construction
costs eligible for revenue funding support which were capped at £193.1m
(inclusive of VAT) (the “Construction Cost Cap”), and were part of the NPD
funding attributed to the new build?
The cost of this article/model plane?
Please advise the cost of installation of this article/model Plane?
nor supplied any relevant invoices, of which  personal information may be
redacted.
Please also advise the projected total unitary charges over the 25 Year
period?
Additionally you have not  advised the current value, the cost of annual
insurance of said 'ASSET' and or also advise the role of the person or
college official whom authorised the purchase of said 'ASSET' and/or
ARTICLE that is hanging from the Mezzanine Floor in the City of Glasgow
College.
As you have stated that  The information is commercial in nature. In 
terms
of our Project Agreement with GLQ this information is identified  as
'Commercially Sensitive Information' whereby it cannot be disclosed in
terms of
schedule 26 of the Project Agreement ' until 2 years after the First
Phase
Actual Completion date'. This date is 17 August  2017.
• Disclosure of this information would  prejudice
substantially the commercial interests of GLQ by disclosing their  unique
pricing methodology at a juncture when we understand they are actively
bidding
for other publicly financed work in the public and private  sector.
• The 2 year ceiling for disclosure was set  to
protect commercial confidentiality in a very competitive market  place.
•  Additionally we understand that disclosure  could
put GLQ at risk of being in material breach of their own funding
agreements relative
to this Project Agreement which could have serious  repercussions for GLQ
and as
a consequence associated reputational  implications for the College.
• We have carried out  further analysis as to whether
it is nevertheless in the public interest to  disclose this information
and we
deem that this is not the case for the  following reasons:
• It is in the public  interest for best value to be
secured in procurement exercises for public  sector contracts. It would
not be
in the public interest to disclose this  information and to potentially
prejudice the commercial position of GLQ at  this time.
• There is now a limited amount of time until  the
terms of schedule 26 no longer apply (17 August 2017). 
However,  As the Procurement Authority for this New Campus Glasgow NPD
Project, the City of Glasgow College a Public Body which has a legal duty
in upholding standards of transparent and accountable integrity, under
FOISA and EIR’s, do have an agreed mechanism to obtain the information
requested being the procurement authority that appointed the College’s
private sector partner registered company AND FORMING AN NPD COMPANY for
the sole commercial project for New Campus Glasgow NPD Project.
Please confirm if you have indeed fulfilled the agreement at 62.2 (as I
have reasonable doubt that actually have done so) Where the College
receives a Request for Information in relation to Information that Project
Co is holding on its behalf and which the College does not hold itself the
College shall refer to Project Co such Request for Information as soon as
practicable and in any event within five (5) Business Days of receiving
such Request for Information and Project Co shall:
62.2.1 provide the College with a copy of all such Information in the form
that the College requires as soon as practicable and in any event within
five (5) Business Days (or such other period as the College acting
reasonably may specify) of the College’s request; and
62.2.2 provide all necessary assistance as reasonably requested by the
College in connection with any such Information, to enable the College to
respond to the Request for Information within the time for compliance set
out in section 10 of the FOl(S)A or Regulation 5 of the Environmental
Information (Scotland) Regulations?
Therefore the information requested is held by GLQ (Project Co) and is
accessible to you City of Glasgow College the Procurement Authority and
disclosure of such is crucial to allow a clear and transparent use of the
public pound which is in the public interest, and of which the public
interest test should be carried out. What is important to note is that, in
the responses rejecting this Freedom of Information request’s, you the
City of Glasgow College gave absolutely no analysis of why the public
interest points were considered to be less substantive than those of the
private sector.
I also do not accept that this information is commercially sensitive as
per [6]https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/compa...
Registration of Charge 084138420002, created on 29 August 2013 – Dated 10
Sep 2013
page 6 of 26:
There does not appear on the Glasgow Learning Quarter to be any other
commercial interests applicable to this private sector partner registered
company for the sole purpose of this particular project.
It is in the public interest for best value to be secured in procurement
exercises for
public sector contracts. It would be in the public interest to disclose
this
information and there is NO potential prejudice the commercial position of
GLQ at this time, given that they have no other registered commercial
interests of this nature or size, due to the very detailed and specific
design brief within the Further Education sector or any other sectors that
the Scottish Government nor SFT have commissioned or are in their NPD
pipeline.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on
the Internet at this address:
[7]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/h...
Yours faithfully,
John Murray
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