Dear Central Scotland Police,

I would like through the freedom of Information act the following please........

1. How many Police cars or other vehicles now carry guns in the Central region?

By this I mean is it every vehicle, every second vehicle etc.
2. How much has it cost to supply Central Scotland Police with all guns and ammunition?

3. How much was spent training police officers to use and handle the guns?

4. Where did the money come from to fund the training of Police officers, the supplying of ammunition and the supplying of guns? Was it from the government grant/Council tax?

5. To which company's does Central Scotland Police pay when buying the ammunition/guns etc?

Yours faithfully,

brian ovens

Dear Central Scotland Police,
Can you tell me if you are dealing with my request?

Yours faithfully,

brian ovens

Freedom Of Information, Central Scotland Police

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 - Clarification

Thank you for your request for information received on 4th August, 2010,
and is being dealt with this in accordance with the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002. Requests recieved by Central Scotland Police Force
are Acknowledged within 3 working days (workload permitting) as part of
the FOI Standard Operating Procedure.

I write to seek clarification on your request as follows:

Request : As below

Clarification Required :

Please could you clarify over what time period your request relates to.

Please note : Until your clarification is received the statutory 20
working day clock has stopped and will begin once your clarification has
been received.

If you require any clarification, please do not hesitate to contact me on
01786 456000 or Email: [1][email address] . However, if
you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been handled,
you are entitled, in the first instance, to request a Review of the
decisions made. Should you wish to request a Review, please write to Chief
Inspector A McLeod, Head of Department, Professional Standards Department,
Central Scotland Police, Police Headquarters, Randolphfield, Stirling FK8
2HD within 40 working days of receiving this correspondence.

If, after receiving a response, you remain dissatisfied, you have six
months within which you may Appeal to the Scottish Information
Commissioner who can be contacted at Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St
Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS. Phone: 01334 464610 Fax: 01334 464611 or Email
[2][email address] .

Yours sincerely

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [3][Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

Im looking for all the years you have available thanks.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Thank you for your email and Clarification, as you have not specified any
timescale and to keep your request within cost of compliance, we may not
be able to supply all the information. However, I will deal with your
request and respond no later than 8th September, 2010.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [1][Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,
Well the last 5 years will be enough,thanks.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

Dear Central Scotland Police,
If 5 years is too much, then 3 years will do.

Yours faithfully,

brian ovens

Freedom Of Information, Central Scotland Police

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Thank you for your further Clarification.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 - Clarification

Thank you for your request for information received on 4th August, 2010
and Clarified on 9th, August, 2010 and is being dealt with this in
accordance with the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002.

I write to seek further clarification on your request as follows:

Request : As below

Clarification Required :

Our Firearms Department have asked for Clarification for Question 3, in
relation to 'training Police Officers to use and handle the guns',
training is an ongoing cost and would like to clarify if you are only
looking for the costs to Central Scotland Police for initial training or
in addition any external training costs such as hire of ranges etc., which
may be more difficult to establish.

Please note : Until your clarification is received the statutory 20
working day clock has stopped and will begin once your clarification has
been received.

If you require any clarification, please do not hesitate to contact me on
01786 456000 or Email: [1][email address] . However, if
you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been handled,
you are entitled, in the first instance, to request a Review of the
decisions made. Should you wish to request a Review, please write to Chief
Inspector A McLeod, Head of Department, Professional Standards Department,
Central Scotland Police, Police Headquarters, Randolphfield, Stirling FK8
2HD within 40 working days of receiving this correspondence.

If, after receiving a response, you remain dissatisfied, you have six
months within which you may Appeal to the Scottish Information
Commissioner who can be contacted at Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St
Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS. Phone: 01334 464610 Fax: 01334 464611 or Email
[2][email address] .

Yours sincerely

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [3][Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

My question is straight forward.

3. How much was spent training police officers to use and handle
the guns?

Im looking for the time period available and the total in that time period.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

Freedom Of Information, Central Scotland Police

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Thank you for your email. I will forward your comments to our Firearms
Unit, however the cost for training would not just be for 'using and
handling guns' as I am sure you will be aware courses will teach the
necessary skills to on how to shoot, including the theory of shooting
and common errors, how to evaluate weapons, police operating procedures
and health and safety issues, costs are not separated as you have
requested. I will request them to supply what figures they can for this
question within the cost of compliance.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

Dear Freedom Of Information,

Do you have the information too my request?

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Thank you for your email. Your FOI Request is due by Monday, 20th
September and I hope to be able to respond to your request then.

I trust that is acceptable.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,
No problem, thanks for the update.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

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Dear Brian Ovens,

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002

Thank you for your request for information received on 4th August, 2010,
and further clarified on 9th and 19th August, 2010. I have dealt with
this in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and
respond to your request as follows :

Your Request(s) :

1. How many Police cars or other vehicles now carry guns in the Central
region? By this I mean is it every vehicle, every second vehicle
etc. Response : I am still waiting response on this request and will
respond as soon as I am able.
2. How much has it cost to supply Central Scotland Police with all guns
and ammunition? Response : Please find attached document containing
the information requested 2008/2009 - *21,309.46, 2009/2010 -
*66971.74, 2010/11 - Nil
3. How much was spent training police officers to use and handle the
guns? Response : I am still waiting response on this request and
will respond as soon as I am able.
4. Where did the money come from to fund the training of Police officers,
the supplying of ammunition and the supplying of guns? Was it from the
government grant/Council tax? Response : Central Scotland Police
Force do not split our core funding across particular expenditure
items. Force budgets are created from a funding mix, mainly
comprising 51% from central government and 49% from constituent local
authorities.
5. To which company's does Central Scotland Police pay when buying the
ammunition/guns etc? Response : Ammunition : BAE Systems, Taser
International, GMK, Home Office. Weapons : AI, H&K, Helston Guns,
Taser International

You should be aware that Central Scotland Police hold the Copyright for
the material provided and it may not be reproduced in any format or media
without acquiring specific permission. This will also be subject to the
material not being used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context.
The source of the material must then be acknowledged as Central Scotland
Police, and the title of the document must be included when being
reproduced as part of another publication or service.

Police forces in the United Kingdom are routinely required to provide
crime statistics to government bodies and the recording criteria is set
nationally. However, the systems used for recording these figures are not
generic, nor are the procedures used locally in capturing the crime data.
It should be noted that for these reasons this force's response to your
questions should not be used for comparison purposes with any other
response you may receive.

If you require any clarification, please do not hesitate to contact me on
01786 456000 or Email: [1][email address] . However, if
you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been handled,
you are entitled, in the first instance, to request a Review of the
decisions made. Should you wish to request a Review, please write to Chief
Inspector A McLeod, Head of Department, Professional Standards Department,
Central Scotland Police, Police Headquarters, Randolphfield, Stirling FK8
2HD within 40 working days of receiving this correspondence.

If, after receiving a response, you remain dissatisfied, you have six
months within which you may Appeal to the Scottish Information
Commissioner who can be contacted at Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St
Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS. Phone: 01334 464610 Fax: 01334 464611 or Email
[2][email address] .

Yours sincerely

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer
Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters
Randolphfield
Stirling FK8 2HD

Tel: 01786 456000
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [3][Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

Thanks for the reply, but are you telling me the Home Office are a company?

I look forward to your reply on my unanswered questions.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

Dear Central Scotland Police,
I was wondering if you had an update on my unanswered questions? Thanks.

Yours faithfully,

brian ovens

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Dear Mr Ovens,

In response to your requests I have added further information below. In
respect of your enquiry to the Home Office being a company, Question 5
requested to which company's does Central Scotland Police pay when buying
the ammunition/guns etc.! and the Home Office are included in the list
provided as being paid for ammunition/guns etc.

I trust the information below is helpful.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer
Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [1][Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,
Thanks for confirming the Home Office is a Company.

I was also wondering if there was an update on my other questions, by that i mean will you have the answers in the next week or so?

Sorry if I seem a little pushy, but there is a lot going on with Councils etc, and all the talk of cut backs which will include the police force (something I disagree with) has got me enquiring about things.

Thanks for your help so far.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

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Dear Brian,

Thank you for your email, I have responded further down the email to the
Questions as stated in the email 'In response to your requests I have
added further information below.' I have copied it again for
your reference.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [Central Scotland Police request email]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

Thanks, you have been very helpful.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

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Dear Brian,

No problem, your welcome and have a good weekend.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [Central Scotland Police request email]

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