Gulf War 1990/1991. Data in reference to the approx 3000% increased risk to Troops

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Dear Ministry of Defence,

Since The Gulf War 90/91.
5 Nations have carried out reports surrounding their troops suffering epidemic levels (approx 1 in 3) of illnesses (gwi). U.S, UK, Canada, Denmark and Australia. They all mention each other suffering similar levels, but no other countries were mentioned. Or no data is available that Other Nations had same high levels of suffering

Only these 5 Nations subjected its troops to similar/same Experimental Multiple Vaccine (EMVR) (5+) Regime within 2 weeks.

These facts have been drawn up from all 5 Nations own information/reports available in the public domain.

Normal population suffer several autoimmune conditions less than 1%

Meaning Troops subjected to the EMVR increased risk of suffering autoimmune conditions was more than 3000%

Q1 - Does MOD hold any Data in Reference to this approx 3000% increased risk?

Regards,

gavin roberts

People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Roberts,

 

Thank you for your email requesting information under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000.

 

Please see the attached response.

 

Kind regards,

 

Defence People Secretariat

Dear People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER),

Thankyou for your reply,

I think you will find your information incorrect. Overwhelming evidence that sickness is not due to Gulf Service? MOD's own approximations were 32% of Gulf veterans suffering sickness under the umbrella term Gulf War Syndrome

These high levels of autoimmune conditions have ONLY been found and reported on on the 5 Nations that carried out the Experimental Multiple Vaccinations. This information us collated from the Data put out by the 5 Nations. Our own report mentions the other 4 Nations suffering.

The Overwhelming evidence is CLEAR and to the contrary to what you have claimed in your reply.

Previously we have been told that Global Data is being monitored?

By who ecactly? I have asked this question before , i'm still waiting for an answer?

Regards,

gavin roberts

CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

Dear Mr Roberts,

 

Receipt is acknowledged of your email of  24 June 2019 in which you
requested an internal review of a response (reference above)

 

The Department's target for completing internal reviews is 20 working days
and we therefore aim to complete the review and respond to you 23 July
2019. While we are working hard to achieve this, in the interests of
providing you with a more realistic indication of when you should expect a
response, we should advise that the majority are currently taking between
20 and 40 working days to complete.  The internal review that will involve
a full, independent reconsideration of the handling of the RFI as well as
the final decision.

 

We note in your appeal  you say that previously you have been told that
Global Data is being monitored by MOD and you ask  “By who exactly?”  You
then say, “I have asked this question before, [and] I'm still waiting for
an answer.”  Did you request this information under FOIA?  If you can
quote us a reference number for the request we shall be happy to
investigate why you have not received a reply.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

MOD Information Rights Compliance Team

 

Dear CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER),

Thankyou for your reply, in a past FOI response it was stated MOD monitor Global Gulf War research/Data.
Is this not true then?

Also i have requested the information contained in the signal that would have sent out to units in reference to vaccines. In the MOD claim that all drugs were on a volountry basis.
I am not requesting or ever have requested a link to the countermeasure report which was completed many years after the event.

I am requesting the information contained in the actual signal .The information sent surrounding experimental Vaccine Regime for soldiers to CONSENT to. If it exists, It could easily be found in Whitehalls Gulf War Log, between the dates 21 Dec 1990 and 4th Jan 1991 ( Start of experimental vaccine regime)

Regards,

gavin roberts

CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Roberts,

 

Please find attached a response to your recent request for internal
review.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

MOD Information Rights Compliance Team

SG SecFin-Sec Gp Mailbox (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

Dear Mr Roberts,

                           Thank you for your email below. The text in
bold is being treated as a request for information under the Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) 2000. The Ministry of Defence (MOD) reference for
this is FOI2019/08406.

 

In your enquiry, you suggest that the requested information might be found
in the “Whitehall Gulf War Log”. It has been determined that this is not a
term used by the MOD. To comply with your request, therefore,
clarification would be appreciated of what the “Whitehall Gulf War Log”
is, so we can undertake the requested search of it.  

 

Regards,

 

Joint Medical Group

From: gavin roberts <[FOI #578901 email]>
Sent: 10 July 2019 23:20
To: CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER) <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Acknowledgement from MOD of Request for a Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) Internal Review - Ref: FOI2019/06214

 

Dear CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER),

 

Thankyou for your reply, in a past FOI response it was stated MOD monitor
Global Gulf War research/Data.

Is this not true then?

 

Also i have requested the information contained in the signal that would
have sent out to units in reference to vaccines. In the MOD claim that all
drugs were on a volountry basis.

I am not requesting or ever have requested a link to the countermeasure
report which was completed many years after the event.

 

I am requesting the information contained in the actual signal .The
information sent surrounding experimental Vaccine Regime for soldiers to
CONSENT to. If it exists, It  could easily be found in Whitehalls Gulf War
Log, between the dates 21 Dec 1990 and 4th Jan 1991 ( Start of
experimental vaccine regime)

 

Regards,

 

gavin roberts

 

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Dear SG SecFin-Sec Gp Mailbox (MULTIUSER),

I am assuming the exact information that we should have received to then allow troops to CONSENT to surrounding experimental vaccines and drugs , would be in the War Log from the Gulf War 1991?

MOD have already stated that SOME may not have received it. I was 1 of the SOME. It is estimated by veterans that the SOME is the Vast Majority of us.

Clarified Question - please give us the information/data surrounding vaccines prior to 4th Jan 1991 that we should have received in order to be in a position to Consent to it?

If the Data does not exist amongst signals sent to units (Wherever MOD stores this data)
Then we can safely assume, it never happened.

Regards,

gavin roberts

Dear SG SecFin-Sec Gp Mailbox (MULTIUSER),

Thankyou for your replys,

This response is in reference to your reply 24th June, where you state there is no evidence of high levels of autoimmune conditions within Gulf War veterans. This does not mean there are not high levels, as you claim. It has not been investigated by MOD. Thanks to social media groups where thousands of sick and healthy Gulf Veterans gather, we have not come across any sick vets that have not suffered or are not suffering several autoimmune conditions. Super high levels of autoimmune conditions exist in sick Gulf Vets as our immune systems were compromised.

To state otherwise is false information and not in the best interests of sick Gulf Vets.

I am requesting an internal review, as this was opinion rather simply stating data is either available or not available.

,
Regards
gavin roberts

SG SecFin-Sec Gp Mailbox (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Roberts,
Further to your enquiry below, please see the attached.

Regards,

Joint Medical Group

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Dear SG SecFin-Sec Gp Mailbox (MULTIUSER),

Thankyou for your reply,

I am responding to yourselves in the first instance as requested

Unfortunately your response has not answered my question, but we seem to be getting closer!

In the report dated 20 Jan 2000 Gulf War Implementation of Biological Immunisations and which Lord Bach highlighted it states in particular the following in reference to being voluntary.

when INSTRUCTIONS FROM MOD HEADQUARTERS were cascaded down the command chain.

We are interested in the INSTRUCTIONS.

MOD will have ALL INSTRUCTIONS sent from its HQ especially during a War recorded. We are not intetested in WHO sent the INSTRUCTIONS down the chain of command. We are interested in what exactly those instructions stated WORD FOR WORD and also the date sent?

If the INSTRUCTIONS do not exist on MOD record, then the option to opt out simply never happened!

Veterans wait patiently for your transparent, crystal clear honest answer as required by FOI LAW.

Which will be simply either

A, It does not exist
or
B, It does exist here are the INSTRUCTIONS before they were sent cascading down the chain of command and date sent

Thankyou on behalf of many very very patient veterans in advance

Regards
Gavin Roberts