S Smith (Account suspended)

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please supply the figures which relate to how many children were actually allowed to remain with grandparents rather than being placed for Adoption.

Please supply these figures in relation to how many children were taken into 'care' on a yearly basis from 2000.

Including listing the ages of these grandchildren; shown as 0-1,etc that were allowed to remain with their grandparents in comparison to grandchildren placed for Adoption by Kent County Council.

Confirm how many complaints Kent County Council have received from grandparents and relatives objecting to their children being placed for Adoption.

Yours faithfully,

S Smith

S Davis (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fo...

you might find this interesting, when Kent County Council eventually respond.

www.familyrightsgroup has more information.

Kent County Council

Dear S Smith

Thank you for your email.

I acknowledge your request for information under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000. Assuming we hold this information, I will endeavour
to supply the data to you as soon as possible but no later than 26th May
2009 (20 working days from date of receipt).

I will advise you as soon as possible if we do not hold this information
or if there are exemptions to be considered and/or any costs for providing
the information. Please quote our reference - FOI/09/449 - in any
communication regarding this particular request.

Best regards

Corporate Access to Information Team, Chief Executive's Department
Kent County Council, Legal & Democratic Services, Room 1.94, Sessions
House, County Hall, Maidstone. ME14 1XQ.
Tel: 01622 696265 or 01622 694261 - Fax: 01622 694383
[1]http://www.kent.gov.uk/council-and-democ...

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Kent County Council

Dear S Smith

Thank you for your request for information made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

This information you have asked for is not held in one central system and to comply we would need to approach the district teams, who would have to check the individual children's records for the past 9 years. Not all children will be known to the adoption teams as the decision to place with Grandparents may be made before reaching them, i.e. children from the CP register, or in proceedings.

As you can imagine this would involve an huge amount of work and we estimate that this would exceed the £450 cost limit (equivalent to 18 hours work at the £25 hourly rate set by the Ministry of Justice). Therefore under section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, we are not obliged to comply with your request and are exercising our right to refuse to deal.

If you are unhappy with this response, and believe KCC has not complied with legislation, please ask for a review by following our complaints process; details can be found at this link http://www.kent.gov.uk/council-and-democ... on our website. Please quote reference FOI/09/449.

If you still remain dissatisfied following an internal review, you can appeal to the Information Commissioner, who oversees compliance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Details of what you need to do, should you wish to pursue this course of action, are available from the Information Commissioner's website http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/freedom...

Best regards

Michelle Hunt
Access to Information Co-ordinator
Communication & Information Governance
Children, Families & Education Directorate
Kent County Council
Room 2.35, Sessions House
Maidstone, Kent, ME14 1XQ
External: 01622 696692
Internal: 7000 6692
Email: [email address]

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S Smith (Account suspended)

Dear Sir or Madam,

The figures below in response to a previous FOI are absolutely
shocking and are only over a 4 year period, clearly these should be in reverse with most children
remaining within their original family i.e. with grandparents
/relatives.

It is also worrying that double the amount of SGO special
guardianship orders are made to non-relative carers.

Unfortunately a massive industry has emerged from taking children
into 'care' with a view to adoption.

Could this be the real reason why Kent County Council has failed
yet again to comply 'fully'with a FOI.

It seems unbelievable that you can produce these figures but not
how many children remained within their own families rather than
being adopted.

Please state how many complaints have been received regarding
children not remaining within their families in favour of Adoption
with strangers and comply with figures from 2000.

Non -related Fostercare vs Related

Age 0 650 13 1 353 10 2 350 10 3 310 8 4 295 5 5 275 10 6 267 2 7
331 7 8 369 6 9 378 10 10 396 4 etc.

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/su...

Freedom of Information Request FOI/08/824

Question 2a Children Placed With A Non Related Foster Carer From
1/1/2004 to 30/9/2008 Excluding Asylum Placements

Age Female Male 0 290 360 1 194 159 2 177 173 3 161 149 4 145 150 5
117 158 6 110 157 7 137 194 8 166 203 9 139 239 10 145 261 11 221
368 12 236 378 13 362 433 14 540 502 15 556 507 16 182 185 17 73 53
Age at Date of Placement

Question 2b Children Placed With A Related Foster Carer From
1/1/2004 to 30/9/2008 Excluding Asylum Placements

Age Female Male 0 7 6 1 4 6 2 7 3 3 4 4 4 4 1 5 6 4 6 1 1 7 3 4 8 2
4 9 4 6 10 1 3 11 3 6 12 8 4 13 1 4 14 4 4 15 7 7 16 3 1 17 1 Age
at Date of Placement

Question 3a & 3b Special Guardianship Orders made to…

3a, Non Related Foster Carers 52 3b, Related Foster Carers 23

Yours sincerely,

S Smith

Kent County Council

Dear S Smith

Thank you for your email.

I acknowledge your request for information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Assuming we hold this information, we will endeavour to supply the data to you as soon as possible but no later than 16th June 2009 (20 working days from date of receipt).

We will advise you as soon as possible if we do not hold this information or if there are exemptions to be considered and/or any costs for providing the information. Please quote our reference - FOI/09/555 - in any communication regarding this particular request.

Best regards

Michelle Hunt
Access to Information Co-ordinator
Communication & Information Governance
Children, Families & Education Directorate
Kent County Council
Room 2.35, Sessions House
Maidstone, Kent, ME14 1XQ
External: 01622 696692
Internal: 7000 6692
Email: [email address]

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S Smith (Account suspended)

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please note you have still failed to response to the orginal FOI, i.e. how many complaints have been recieved.etc.

Please refrain from using delaying tactics; clearly this is not very professional.

Yours sincerely,

S Smith

Kent County Council

Dear S Smith

Thank you for your request made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. You asked how many complaints have been received regarding children not remaining within their families in favour of Adoption with strangers and comply with figures from 2000.

I have been advised that the answer is none because the decision to place children for adoption is made by the Court and the route for the complainant would be to challenge it in court. The complaints procedure is not able to change a decision of the Court and would therefore be inappropriate.

If you are unhappy with this response, and believe KCC has not complied with legislation, please ask for a review by following our complaints process; details can be found at this link http://www.kent.gov.uk/council-and-democ... on our website. Please quote reference FOI/09/555.

If you still remain dissatisfied following an internal review, you can appeal to the Information Commissioner, who oversees compliance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Details of what you need to do, should you wish to pursue this course of action, are available from the Information Commissioner's website http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/freedom...

Best regards

Michelle Hunt
Access to Information Co-ordinator
Communication & Information Governance
Children, Families & Education Directorate
Kent County Council
Room 2.35, Sessions House
Maidstone, Kent, ME14 1XQ
External: 01622 696692
Internal: 7000 6692
Email: [email address]

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S Smith (Account suspended)

Dear Sir or Madam,

Clearly, Kent County Council initiates placing children in 'care' whom are put up for adoption.The court being the tool which is used.

Please answer the question , how many complaints have the council received.

Yours sincerely,

S Smith

Kent County Council

Dear S Smith

Thank you for your email below.

I am sorry you are unhappy with my colleague's response to your request
for information, specifically the assertion that no complaints have been
received by the Council regarding children not remaining within their
families in favour of Adoption with strangers since 2000.

The Director of Law and Governance and our Legal Department will
investigate your complaint and review our original response on behalf of
the Chief Executive. Their reply will be forthcoming within 28 days from
receipt (by 24th June)

Best regards

Corporate Access to Information Team, Chief Executive's Department
Kent County Council, Legal & Democratic Services, Room 1.94, Sessions
House, County Hall, Maidstone. ME14 1XQ.
Tel: 01622 696265 or 01622 694261 - Fax: 01622 694383
[1]http://www.kent.gov.uk/council-and-democ...

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Kent County Council

Dear S Smith

I have been asked to review the response that you have received to your
Freedom of Information Act request number 09/555 Your request for review
was dated 27th May 2009.

I note in considering your correspondence, that you have made 48 FOIA
requests since July 2008 of which 14 requests have been made since 13 May
2009. Our responses to these requests have generated dozens of further
requests for internal review by yourself. This volume of correspondence
between the Council and one FOI requester is totally unprecedented
and represents a significant and unjustifiable use of the County Council's
resources.

For the reasons given in Mark Radford's email to you of 10th June last, we
consider that your recent spate of requests for information and reviews,
including your request for a review in respect of matter number 09/555
constitutes an obsessive campaign to disrupt the efficient functioning of
Kent County Council. Consequently, your request is denied on the grounds
that it is vexatious, in accordance with section 14(1) of the Freedom on
Information 2000.

If you are unhappy with this decision, you can appeal to the Information
Commissioner, who oversees compliance with the Freedom of Information Act
2000. Details of what you need to do, should you wish to pursue this
course of action, are available from the Information Commissioner's
website
[1]http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.u...

Regards

Ben Fearnley-Sander

Solicitor - Contracts & Procurement Team

Legal & Democratic Services

Kent County Council County Hall Maidstone ME14 1XQ

DX 123693 Maidstone 6

E: [2][email address] T: 01622 696065 F:
01622 694402 M: 07595 090587 W: www.kent.gov.uk/Legal

This communication may contain advice or information, that attracts legal
professional privilege and may be exempt from disclosure under the Data
Protection Act 1998 or the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Accordingly,
do not disclose this communication to a third party without first taking
legal advice from the sender.

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Susan Web (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

After looking at these figures, as grandparents we are shocked, is this the same all over the country or just in Kent?

Maybe the grandparents association should be made aware, if they don't already know.

V. Bennett left an annotation ()

KCC are using section 14 as an excuse to not answer questions, they are not using it in a lawful manner.
Is there a limit on the number of requests that can be made? And how do they know that this is a "clear attempt to disrupt"? They are making assumptions and should be investigated thoroughly by the ICO.

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