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Dear East Sussex Fire and Rescue Service,

Would you please tell me how many calls to outdoor fires were attended each year, for the past five years (between 01/04/2017 and 01/04/2022), for all land owned or managed by Natural England and South Downs National Park in your area. I would be interested in fires of any size, both Primary and Secondary, deliberate and accidental. Please also include false alarms.

I have found the following sites in your area

- LULLINGTON HEATH NNR
- CASTLE HILL NNR
- PEVENSEY LEVELS NNR
- LAND ADJACENT TO NORMAN'S BAY LANE
- South Downs National Park

May I also ask for the total number of hours spent at fires (incident time) and the total number of hours spent by appliances at fires (appliance time) for each year of the past five years too please?

I would be looking for the total number of hours and minutes spent by all appliances, specials and officers’ cars at an incident, even if they were cancelled en route. Could you take each incident included in the data, e.g., Incident 1 in Forest X in 2017?

Then could you gather what vehicles were alerted of Incident 1 in Forest X in 2017. E.g., 3 vehicles in total.

Then find the hours and minutes each vehicle "spent on the incident" worked out from the time the 999 call came into the control room (and if relevant each different vehicle was alerted) to the time it became available again.

E.g., - Vehicle 1
Alerted: 9:00
Became available: 11:50
Total time: 2 hours and 50 minutes

Vehicle 2
Alerted: 9:30
Became available: 9:33 (it was cancelled before making it to the scene)
Total time: 3 minutes

Vehicle 3
Alerted: 10:00
Became available: 10:20
Total time: 20 minutes

Then could the total vehicle times be added together to give the total time that was spent by all vehicles on that incident. In the example above this would be:
2 hrs. and 50 min (Vehicle 1) + 3 min (Vehicle 2) + 20 min (Vehicle 3) = 3 hours and 13 minutes.

Once that has been worked out for each incident in a year, please could you add all the total times added together to give the yearly total in hours and minutes.

I am aware that sometimes incidents are reported vaguely such as "the woods off of London Road" without the full address. Please could you do your best to capture these incidents too. Could you also include any other sites owned by Natural England that you cover that I may have missed please?

I have been trying to find digital maps to assist with my request and capture land that hasn’t been listed. I have been told by Natural England that "The information you seek is publicly available. The list of all the National Nature Reserves can be found on Gov.UK on the link below. You can look by region and then by county to see which are owned and managed by Natural England and which are managed by other organisations.

The contact details and addresses are also provided for all National Nature Reserves. Postal addresses are available on the lists for Natural England owned and managed sites. The attached link on Gov.UK is open data portal that provides information on all National Nature Reserves. If you click on a National Nature Reserve (NNR) and zoom in, you will see a text box opens that provides data on size, area etc. This data is based on GIS Government Open data policy."

https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.ar...

https://data.gov.uk/dataset/726484b0-d14...

Or the Defra MAGIC map available at https://magic.defra.gov.uk/

South Downs National Park provided maps of the land they own or manage in response to a freedom of information request. This can be found at:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...

I am aware that for similar requests, some services have sent these links on to their GIS or mapping teams who have overlayed them on the services incident map. I hope this will assist you further in fulfilling my request.

May I also ask if you routinely notify public landowners, such as Forestry England and Natural England if a fire has occurred on their land that crews have attended and if you have a policy on this?

Yours faithfully,

L. Mesi

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Dear L Mesi

 

I refer to your Freedom of Information Act request which was received by
East Sussex Fire & Rescue Service on  30 April 2022

 

Request

 

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│Would you please tell me how many calls to outdoor fires were attended each year, for the past five │
│years (between 01/04/2017 and 01/04/2022), for all land owned or managed by Natural England and │
│South Downs National Park in your area. I would be interested in fires of any size, both Primary and│
│Secondary, deliberate and accidental. Please also include false alarms. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│I have found the following sites in your area │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│- LULLINGTON HEATH NNR │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│- CASTLE HILL NNR │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│- PEVENSEY LEVELS NNR │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│- LAND ADJACENT TO NORMAN'S BAY LANE │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│- South Downs National Park │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│May I also ask for the total number of hours spent at fires (incident time) and the total number of │
│hours spent by appliances at fires (appliance time) for each year of the past five years too please?│
│ │
│  │
│ │
│I would be looking for the total number of hours and minutes spent by all appliances, specials and │
│officers’ cars at an incident, even if they were cancelled en route. Could you take each incident │
│included in the data, e.g., Incident 1 in Forest X in 2017? │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Then could you gather what vehicles were alerted of Incident 1 in Forest X in 2017. E.g., 3 vehicles│
│in total. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Then find the hours and minutes each vehicle "spent on the incident" worked out from the time the │
│999 call came into the control room (and if relevant each different vehicle was alerted) to the time│
│it became available again. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│E.g., - Vehicle 1 │
│ │
│Alerted: 9:00 │
│ │
│Became available: 11:50 │
│ │
│Total time: 2 hours and 50 minutes │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Vehicle 2 │
│ │
│Alerted: 9:30 │
│ │
│Became available: 9:33 (it was cancelled before making it to the scene) │
│ │
│Total time: 3 minutes │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Vehicle 3 │
│ │
│Alerted: 10:00 │
│ │
│Became available: 10:20 │
│ │
│Total time: 20 minutes │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Then could the total vehicle times be added together to give the total time that was spent by all │
│vehicles on that incident. In the example above this would be: │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│2 hrs. and 50 min (Vehicle 1) + 3 min (Vehicle 2) + 20 min (Vehicle 3) = 3 hours and 13 minutes. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Once that has been worked out for each incident in a year, please could you add all the total times │
│added together to give the yearly total in hours and minutes. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│I am aware that sometimes incidents are reported vaguely such as "the woods off of London Road" │
│without the full address. Please could you do your best to capture these incidents too. Could you │
│also include any other sites owned by Natural England that you cover that I may have missed please? │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│I have been trying to find digital maps to assist with my request and capture land that hasn’t been │
│listed. I have been told by Natural England that "The information you seek is publicly available. │
│The list of all the National Nature Reserves can be found on Gov.UK on the link below. You can look │
│by region and then by county to see which are owned and managed by Natural England and which are │
│managed by other organisations. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│The contact details and addresses are also provided for all National Nature Reserves. Postal │
│addresses are available on the lists for Natural England owned and managed sites. The attached link │
│on Gov.UK is open data portal that provides information on all National Nature Reserves. If you │
│click on a National Nature Reserve (NNR) and zoom in, you will see a text box opens that provides │
│data on size, area etc. This data is based on GIS Government Open data policy." │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│[1]https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.ar...
│ │
│  │
│ │
│[2]https://data.gov.uk/dataset/726484b0-d14...
│ │
│  │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│Or the Defra MAGIC map available at [3]https://magic.defra.gov.uk/
│ │
│  │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│South Downs National Park provided maps of the land they own or manage in response to a freedom of │
│information request. This can be found at: │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│[4]https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...
│ │
│  │
│ │
│I am aware that for similar requests, some services have sent these links on to their GIS or mapping│
│teams who have overlayed them on the services incident map. I hope this will assist you further in │
│fulfilling my request. │
│ │
│  │
│ │
│May I also ask if you routinely notify public landowners, such as Forestry England and Natural │
│England if a fire has occurred on their land that crews have attended and if you have a policy on │
│this? │
│ │
│  │
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

 

Response:

 

 

To identify areas owned and managed by Natural England and the South Downs
National Park  would take considerable time to ascertain and map as we do
not have a standalone mapping and GIS team.

 

We can provide the information on incident times, appliance times for
outdoor fires etc.

 

If you could provide a map, or specific geographic locations, post codes
showing us the area you are interest in, we will provide the relevant data
for those areas.

 

 

Mrs L Ridley

Assistant Director – Planning & Improvement

East Sussex Fire & Rescue Service Headquarters

Church Lane

Lewes

East Sussex BN7 2DZ

 

A request for an internal review should be submitted within two months of
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If you remain dissatisfied with the handling of your request or complaint,
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Telephone: 0303 123 1113

website: [5]https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/

 

There is no charge for making an appeal.

 

Kind regards,

 

Peter Lilley

 

Democratic Services Officer

 

Freedom of Information

East Sussex Fire & Rescue Service | Church Lane | Lewes | East Sussex |
BN7 2DZ.

E [6][East Sussex Fire and Rescue Service request email] : W [7]www.esfrs.org

 

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not use it or copy it to anyone else. E-mail is not a secure
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appropriate checks are made. Further details on our processing of personal
data can be found at: www.esfrs.org/privacynotice

References

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1. https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.ar...
2. https://data.gov.uk/dataset/726484b0-d14...
3. https://magic.defra.gov.uk/
4. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/r...
5. https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/
6. mailto:[East Sussex Fire and Rescue Service request email]
7. http://www.esfrs.org/
8. https://www.facebook.com/eastsussexfirea...
9. https://twitter.com/EastSussexFRS

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