Dear Independent Police Complaints Commission,

I hear by request the following information under HM Freedom of Information Act 2000

A) A count of all staff members of the commission who are serving or ex-serving members (both civilian and none-civilian) of any police constabulary in England or Wales. Special constables or volunteers to be included.

Thank you,

Oysterman

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Sheena Thakrar,

Ref: 1003762

Dear Oysterman,

Re: Request for Information

Thank you for your email received here at the IPCC on 24th June 2013.

Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and will be answered within 20 working days. You should therefore expect a response by 22nd July 2013.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me. Please do remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications about this request.

Yours sincerely,

Sheena Thakrar
HR Systems and Information Manager
Independent Police Complaints Commission
90 High Holborn
London
WC1V 6BH
Tel: 020 7166 3143
Fax: 020 7166 3443
Fax for HR forms only: 020 7166 3699
Email: [email address]<mailto:[email address]>
www.ipcc.gov.uk<http://www.ipcc.gov.uk>

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Sheena Thakrar,

Ref: 1003762

Dear Oysterman

Re: Request for Information

Thank you for your email received at the IPCC on 24th June 2013 regarding your request for information.

I note you have requested the following:

'A count of all staff members of the commission who are serving or ex-serving members (both civilian and none-civilian) of any police constabulary in England or Wales. Special constables or volunteers to be included.'

I can confirm the IPCC holds the information that you have requested. Please find enclosed the information you have requested below. This data was run on 31st March 2013.

Job Title Total Staff Ex Police Officer Ex Police Civilian
Investigator 67 17 11
Deputy Senior Investigator 20 9 1
Senior Investigator 8 7 1
Casework 137 4 8
Other 177 7 20
Total Staff 409 44 41

* One Investigators have previously worked as both a police officer and police civilian
** One Deputy Senior Investigators have previously worked as both a police officer and police civilian
*** One Senior Investigators have previously worked as both a police officer and police civilian

If you have any queries or concerns about this letter please do not hesitate to contact me. Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications about this request.

If you are not satisfied with this response you may request an independent internal review by our FOI appeals officer, who has had no involvement in dealing with your request. If you wish to complain about any aspect of this decision, please contact:

Colin Woodward
Acting Director of Human Resources, Procurement and Estates
Independent Police Complaints Commission
90 High Holborn
London WC1V 6BH

All emails requesting a review should be sent directly to: [IPCC request email]<mailto:[IPCC request email]>

Should you remain dissatisfied after this internal review, you will have a right of complaint to the Information Commissioner; however, I should point out that under section 50(2)(a) of the Freedom of Information Act, you are normally obliged to exhaust the IPCC's own internal complaint mechanism before complaining to the Information Commissioner.

Yours sincerely

Sheena Thakrar
HR Systems and Information Manager
Independent Police Complaints Commission
90 High Holborn
London
WC1V 6BH
Tel: 020 7166 3143
Fax: 020 7166 3443
Fax for HR forms only: 020 7166 3699
Email: [email address]<mailto:[email address]>
www.ipcc.gov.uk<http://www.ipcc.gov.uk>

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Oysterman left an annotation ()

In what way do the commission feel that ex-police members add to the objectivity or neutrality of investigations into the police who may or may not feel sentimental about the force, specifically the force they have worked in previously ?

Do the commission or does the commission have plans to have civil investigations put to a civil tier of fact, deliberated by the public at random selection ? If so why so if not why not ?

Dear Sheena Thakrar,

I ask the following questions under HM Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act of 2002:

In what way do the commission feel that ex-police members add to the objectivity or neutrality of investigations into the police who may or may not feel sentimental about the force, specifically the force they have worked in previously ?

Do the commission or does the commission have plans to have civil investigations put to a civil tier of fact, deliberated by the public at random selection ? If so why so if not why not ?

Oysterman

Dear Sheena Thakrar,

I request it under HM Freedom of Information 2000 rather.

Oysterman

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Our Ref: 1003900
Your Ref:

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your request for information, received in this office on 16 September 2013.

After considering your email, I have decided that the first part is not a request for information under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act 2000. Instead, you request the opinions on the position of the Commission.

I am therefore happy to provide you with what information I can:

On the employment of former police officers, I would refer you to the

I would refer you to look at the Home Affairs Select Committee reports on the IPCC, which includes the IPCC's responses and written evidence on employing former police officers. This also sets the work we are doing to train our own staff and recruit trainee staff in the Investigations directorate. This can be found at http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa... (please search for ‘a second home for police officers’ in the left hand column, about three quarters of the way down the page).

Turning to your second question, which I am dealing with as a FOI request, I can confirm that we hold no records relevant to your request and that therefore there is no such plan. It may be helpful if I refer you again to the document above, and specifically to section ‘the basis for mistrust’.

As we are not dealing with your first question under the FOI Act, there is no formal right to ask for an internal review. You may therefore wish to raise any concerns that you have about FOI aspects of the handling of your request directly with the Information Commissioner’s Office, which can be contacted at www.ico.org.uk.

Turning to your second question, as this is being treated as a FOI request, you retain a right to an internal review.

If you have any queries or concerns about this letter please do not hesitate to contact me. Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future communications about this request.

If you are not satisfied with this response you may request an independent internal review by our FOI appeals officer, who has had no involvement in dealing with your request. If you wish to complain about any aspect of this decision, please contact:

Colin Woodward
Acting Director of Human Resources, Procurement and Estates
Independent Police Complaints Commission
90 High Holborn
London WC1V 6BH

All emails requesting a review should be sent directly to: [IPCC request email]

Should you remain dissatisfied after this internal review, you will have a right of complaint to the Information Commissioner; however, I should point out that under section 50(2)(a) of the Freedom of Information Act, you are normally obliged to exhaust the IPCC’s own internal complaint mechanism before complaining to the Information Commissioner.

Yours Sincerely,

Adam Lillis
Freedom Of Information and Data Protection Officer
Directorate of Business Services
Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC)
90 High Holborn
London WC1V 6BH
E-mail: [email address]
www.ipcc.gov.uk

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