Energy costs

R Thurlow made this Freedom of Information request to East Devon District Council

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Dear East Devon District Council,

Could you provide information as to how:
a) the inflation rate of 3% was calculated with reference to page 12 of the next Cabinet agenda http://www.eastdevon.gov.uk/os_agenda_15...
b) the inflation rate of 2% was calculated with reference to page 45 of the Relocation Update to Cabinet http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937... ;
c) The inflation rate per annum of 18.8% for gas and 11.9% per annum for electricity from 203 to 2013 was calculated http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937..., page 45
d) the inflation rate of 10% per annum for energy for the next 20 years was calculated, again with reference to page 45 of the Relocation Update to Cabinet http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937...
e/ The make up and precise predictions of all components of the total savings of £5.55m over 20 years.
http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937..., Page 45
I would like to know the exact references and sources which provide the basis for these calculations – as well as the precise methodology by which these calculations were arrived at.
Thank you.”

Yours faithfully,

Richard Thurlow

East Devon District Council

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East Devon District Council

Dear Mr Thurlow,

Thank you for your request for information. Please find the response to your query below.

Could you provide information as to how:
a) the inflation rate of 3% was calculated with reference to page 12 of the next Cabinet agenda http://www.eastdevon.gov.uk/os_agenda_15...
Finance used CPI back 12mths YOY Aug 2013 to Aug 2014 = 1.5% NB: The 1.5% is in the 2015/16 Budget for Jan CAB 7/1/15, (NOT 2014/15 3% per CAB 15/1/14)

b) the inflation rate of 2% was calculated with reference to page 45 of the Relocation Update to Cabinet http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937... ;
The 2% allowance is based upon the Bank of England Monetary Policy Framework Inflation target of 2% which is expressed in terms of an annual rate of inflation based on the Consumer Prices Index (CPI)

c) The inflation rate per annum of 18.8% for gas and 11.9% per annum for electricity from 203 to 2013 was calculated http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937..., page 45
The answer is in the para above. The inflation rates have been based upon the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) fuel price indices between 2003 and 2013

d) the inflation rate of 10% per annum for energy for the next 20 years was calculated, again with reference to page 45 of the Relocation Update to Cabinet http://new.eastdevon.gov.uk/media/526937...
Our approach has been to reflect upon actual past performance of energy costs rather than rely on forward estimates

e/ The make up and precise predictions of all components of the total savings of £5.55m over 20 years.
This information is commercially confidential due to its inclusion of figures relating to land and property valuation. It is exempt information under s43(2) of the Freedom of Information Act

I hope this is helpful.

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Regards

Kate Symington
Information and Complaints Officer
East Devon District Council

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Dear East Devon District Council,

Thank you for your reply.
I note that you are refusing to release information on item e above.

I fail to see how this information is commercially sensitive. You have already given the breakdown of the costs of the existing Knowle building and a new building, as part of the DL Office Accommodation, "Knowle Energy Use and maintenance cost analysis Report of June 2013". The headings in that document under which you have assessed the current costs are;

Planned Maintenance,
Reactive Maintenance
Electricity consumption
Gas consumption
Water consumption
COUNCIL Rates
Buildings insurance
Employee costs
Grounds maintenance
Property service costs
Recharge for Council Services
Other costs
Other Running Costs

Mr Cohen, in his email to me of the 8th December 2014, said "Also, please be aware that in addition to electricity and gas costs there are other elements including Business Rates, Maintenance (planned, reactive, grounds), insurances and other running costs that have also been taken into consideration"

What on earth is the point of refusing to state how these costs have been increased over a 20 year period? None of this information is commercially confidential, and should not be so described.
Please let me have this information now

regards
Richard Thurlow

Yours faithfully,

R Thurlow

Kate Symington, East Devon District Council

Mr Thurlow

Thank you for your email. Please accept my apologies for an error in my previous response. The information which was not provided to you specifically in relation to part (e) of your request is not exempt on the basis of commercial confidentiality.

The reason that the make-up and exact predictions within the financial reconciliation document cannot be provided to you at this time relates to the inclusion in the figures of specific employee costs. It would be possible to identify individual staff members from the information used in these calculations and the data is therefore exempt under s40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act.

Please be advised that this document is going to be audited by both SWAP and Grant Thornton and so, although we cannot provide all requested detail publicly at this stage, I hope you will take comfort from the fact that professional and independent parties will be thoroughly reviewing the document.

To confirm, this aspect of your request is exempt from disclosure under s40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act and my apologies for any confusion caused by my earlier response.

Mrs Kate Symington
Information and Complaints Officer
East Devon District Council

01395 517417
www.eastdevon.gov.uk

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Dear Kate Symington,

Your answer is complete fiction; you have now find another excuse for not giving me data, again completely wrongly.

In my last email, I detailed the basic headings under which you calculated the operating costs of both the Knowle and your proposed new buildings, obtained from your own, publicly available document.

You now refuse to give me details of the estimated future costs and % increase rate under these headings, all of which ,except "Employee costs" cannot be sensitive to "the identification of Council employees". And even then, these "Employee" costs, which you have given as £110216 in an EDDC published document, are not split down into individual employees, so there is NO possibility of me identifying what an EDDC employee earns in maintaining the buildings.

Interestingly in that document, you have calculated the Employee cost in the new buildings as being identical to the Knowle, so there is no reason for saying that I cannot have this information under the FOI act, because I need nothing further other than the % increase over 20 years which you have assumed.

I give below the costs under each heading for both the Knowle and the proposed new building, available in the public document.

Knowle :New Buildings
3/2015
Planned Maintenance, ;£12738 ;£5529
Reactive Maintenance ;£13306 ;£5000
Electricity consumption ;£63289 ;£18296
Gas consumption ;£20613 ;£10768
Water consumption ;£8356 ;£8356
COUNCIL Rates ; £124221 ;£53922
Buildings insurance ;£13357 ;£5798
Employee costs ;£110216 ; £110216
Grounds maintenance ;£12692 ;£3173
Property service costs ;£28260 ;£12267
Recharge for Council Services ;£24574 ;£24574
Other costs ; £17123 ;£7433
Other Running Costs ; £ 99425 ;£4091

TOTAL ; £458170 ;£269424

What I need is the inflation % you have assumed in your calculation of the savings over 20 years, from 2015 onwards

Your refusal to give me this is totally unjustified.

I can only assume that you have something to hide.

Please let me have this information immediately. I am aware that SWAP and Grant Thornton are reviewing your figures; in fact I am in correspondence with them about the situation
Yours sincerely,

R Thurlow

Yours sincerely,

R Thurlow