Ejection Seat Modification Status

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Dear Ministry of Defence,

I refer to the collision over the Moray Firth on 3rd July 2012 between two Tornado GR4 aircraft.
Can you advise as to whether the ejection seats fitted to the aircraft were pre or post modification 02198?

Yours faithfully,

James Jones

DES Sec-FOI (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Jones,

 

Please find attached response to your recent freedom of information
request from the Ministry of Defence.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Eleanor

 

Eleanor Preece

Defence Equipment and Support Secretariat

 

 

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Dear DES Sec-FOI (MULTIUSER),

Many thanks for your reply, dated 30th Nov. As a follow-up request, can you provide me with the servicing record sheets/logs for the four Mk10 seat assemblies involved in the Moray Firth Tornado collision? The sheets/logs should cover the period from the date of mod 02198 embodiment to 3rd July 2012.

Yours sincerely,

James Jones

DES Sec-FOI (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Jones,

 

Please find attached letter in response to your request for information
from the Ministry of Defence.

 

Regards,

Eleanor

 

Eleanor Preece | DE&S Secretariat | Air

 

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Dear DES Sec-FOI (MULTIUSER),

This request is not vexatious. It has been submitted in order to provide the Lord Advocate’s office with essential information in his review of a Fatal Accident Inquiry into the 2012 Tornado collision over the Moray Firth.

Yours sincerely,

James Jones

CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

Dear Mr Jones,

 

Your enquiry of today has been forwarded to the MOD Information Rights
Compliance Team.  You have stated that your request was submitted in order
to "provide the Lord Advocate’s office with essential information in his
review of a Fatal Accident Inquiry into the 2012 Tornado collision over
the Moray Firth".  

 

If you are submitting the request on behalf, or under the authority of,
the Lord Advocate the Freedom of Information Act may not be the most
appropriate mechanism to use. The Lord Advocate's Office is a Public
Authority in its own right under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act
2002. There is an established convention that the Ministry of Defence
follows in meeting requests for information from other UK based Public
Authorities, under which we would provide information required for
official purposes outside of any FOI legislation. This convention allows
Public Authorities to share information required for the effective conduct
of public affairs that might not normally be released publicly.  

 

We would be grateful if you could clarify if you are making the request on
your own authority, or are formally acting on behalf of the Lord Advocate.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

MOD Information Rights Compliance Team

Dear CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER),

A meeting took place on 1st May at the Scottish Crown Office between myself, Richard Lochead MSP and Mr David Green, Head of the Scottish Fatalities Investigation Unit. It was made clear by Mr Green that it was important that all relevant information relating to the 2012 Tornado collision be collated so that the Lord Advocate can make a final decision regarding a renewed call for an FAI into the accident.

Subsequent to that meeting I advised Mr Green that certain important documents are being withheld from me on the grounds that my requests are considered to be vexatious. I asked him to intervene but he has advised me that I should pursue the matter as advised under rights to review; hence my latest request.

So in answer to your final point, I am technically making the request on my own authority in order to provide David Green, and ultimately the Lord Advocate with essential technical data. Should you decline this latest request I will advise Mr Green of the alternative method of obtaining the documents

Yours sincerely

James Jones

CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Jones,

 

PSA replacement copy for previous issue which contained an erroneous email
address.   Sorry for the delay.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

MOD Information Rights Compliance Team

 

Dear CIO-FOI-IR (MULTIUSER),

I welcome the outcome of the review into my request.

I understand your decision based on associated costs and ask, as an alternative, that the relevant parts of the revised maintenance/servicing schedules resulting from the 02198 modification be made available.

I also ask that enquiries listed in the annex as Ser. Nos 1,2,3 and 5 be relogged and answered.

Yours sincerely,

James Jones

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