Dr David Southall - FTP cases

William Thackeray made this Freedom of Information request to General Medical Council

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William Thackeray

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please provide details (minutes, transcripts and exhibits) of FTP panel / professional conduct committee cases heard against Dr David Southall.

Thank you for your time and attention on this matter.

Yours faithfully,

William Thackeray

FOI, General Medical Council

Our ref: F09/2200/ME

Dear Mr Thackeray

Information Request

Thank you for your email of 7 April 2009 in which you request information
in accordance with the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2000
(FOIA).

We will consider your request and you will normally receive the
information you seek within the 20 working day limit set by the FOIA.

The FOIA lists a number of exemptions that may prevent the release of
part, or all, of the information that you have requested. We will make an
assessment of the requested information and if it is subject to an
exemption you will be informed of this, together with details of your
right of appeal.

Your request has been allocated to Mark Ellen. If you have any queries
concerning your request you can contact Mr Ellen on 0161 923 6347 or email
[email address]

Yours sincerely

Janet Maclean

Information Access Team Administrator

0161 923 6324

[email address]

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Mark Ellen (0161 923 6347), General Medical Council

Dear Mr Thackeray

Thank you for your e-mail in which you set out a Freedom of Information
request in respect of the GMC hearings concerning Professor Southall.

I have passed your request for the transcripts of these cases to my
colleagues in our fitness to practise directorate. You should hear from
them shortly regarding this.

We hold a substantial amount of material in respect of the exhibits you
have asked for, and this is not held electronically. I can e-mail you
the information that you seek but this will have to be done in 2 or 3
batches. I will send these through to you under separate cover. The
e-mails will include the minutes of all the cases concerning Professor
Southall.

Finally, there are a number of exhibits connected with this case which I
consider to be exempt from disclosure because an exemption set out in
the FOIA applies to their release. In accordance with the requirements
of the FOIA this e-mail acts as a refusal notice in this regard. The
exemption that applies is:

Section 40(2) by virtue of section 40(3)(a)(i) - Personal information
of a third party. This relates to information requested which relates to
a third party, and the disclosure of which would be in breach of the
Principles of the Data Protection Act 1998 (DPA). In this instance we
believe that the disclosure of this type of information would breach the
First Principle of the DPA, which requires that the processing of
personal data is fair and lawful.

This exemption is absolute, which means that it is not subject to a
public interest test (in order to assess if the public interest is
greater served by disclosing the information than maintaining the
exemption).

You have the right of appeal against this decision. If you wish to
appeal please set out in writing your grounds for doing so and e-mail
Julian Graves, Information Access Manager at [email address]. You
also have a further right of appeal to the Information Commissioner. If
applicable, Mr Graves will provide you with details of how to appeal to
the Information Commissioner.

Yours sincerely

Mark Ellen
Information Access Team
General Medical Council
79 Oxford Street
Manchester M1 6FQ
Direct Line: 0161 923 6347

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Mark Ellen (0161 923 6347), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Thackeray.

Here are the minutes of the Professor Southall cases as per my previous
e-mail.

Regards
Mark Ellen

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Mark Ellen (0161 923 6347), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Thackeray

As promised, here are the exhibits as per my previous e-mail.

Regards
Mark Ellen

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General Medical Council

St James Building, 79 Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 6FQ

Regents Place, 350 Euston Road, London, NW1 3JN

The Tun, 4 Jacksons Entry, Holyrood Road, Edinburgh, EH8 8AE

Regus House, Falcon Drive, Cardiff Bay, CF10 4RU

20 Adelaide Street, Belfast, BT2 8GD

The GMC is a charity registered in England and Wales (1089278) and Scotland (SC037750)

William Thackeray

Many thanks, Mark.

Could the remaining information have the personal details redacted to allow it to be released?

William.

Mark Ellen (0161 923 6347), General Medical Council

Mr Thackeray

Thanks for this. I think the best way forward is for me to forward your
e-mail to Julian Graves who can then look at this via our appeals
process.
Mr Graves will contact you in due course regarding this.

Regards
Mark Ellen

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Helen Whitford (020 7189 5193), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Thackery

Please find attached transcripts for Dr Southall as requested

Helen

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General Medical Council

St James Building, 79 Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 6FQ

Regents Place, 350 Euston Road, London, NW1 3JN

The Tun, 4 Jacksons Entry, Holyrood Road, Edinburgh, EH8 8AE

Regus House, Falcon Drive, Cardiff Bay, CF10 4RU

20 Adelaide Street, Belfast, BT2 8GD

The GMC is a charity registered in England and Wales (1089278) and
Scotland (SC037750)

Helen Whitford (020 7189 5193), General Medical Council

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General Medical Council

St James Building, 79 Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 6FQ

Regents Place, 350 Euston Road, London, NW1 3JN

The Tun, 4 Jacksons Entry, Holyrood Road, Edinburgh, EH8 8AE

Regus House, Falcon Drive, Cardiff Bay, CF10 4RU

20 Adelaide Street, Belfast, BT2 8GD

The GMC is a charity registered in England and Wales (1089278) and
Scotland (SC037750)

Helen Whitford (020 7189 5193), General Medical Council

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General Medical Council

St James Building, 79 Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 6FQ

Regents Place, 350 Euston Road, London, NW1 3JN

The Tun, 4 Jacksons Entry, Holyrood Road, Edinburgh, EH8 8AE

Regus House, Falcon Drive, Cardiff Bay, CF10 4RU

20 Adelaide Street, Belfast, BT2 8GD

The GMC is a charity registered in England and Wales (1089278) and
Scotland (SC037750)

Helen Whitford (020 7189 5193), General Medical Council

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it.

General Medical Council

St James Building, 79 Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 6FQ

Regents Place, 350 Euston Road, London, NW1 3JN

The Tun, 4 Jacksons Entry, Holyrood Road, Edinburgh, EH8 8AE

Regus House, Falcon Drive, Cardiff Bay, CF10 4RU

20 Adelaide Street, Belfast, BT2 8GD

The GMC is a charity registered in England and Wales (1089278) and
Scotland (SC037750)

Luke Smith (0161 923 6502), General Medical Council

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CASE 3 (part C)

Dear Mr Thackeray

Please find attached the transcripts of each of Dr Southall's hearings,
due to the size of the files I have to send these as separate e-mails.

Luke Smith

Office Administrator

GMC Adjudications

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Luke Smith (0161 923 6502), General Medical Council

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CASE 3 (part B)

Dear Mr Thackeray

Please find attached the transcripts of each of Dr Southall's hearings,
due to the size of the files I have to send these as separate e-mails.

Luke Smith

Office Administrator

GMC Adjudications

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Luke Smith (0161 923 6502), General Medical Council

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CASE 3 (part A)

Dear Mr Thackeray

Please find attached the transcripts of each of Dr Southall's hearings,
due to the size of the files I have to send these as separate e-mails.

Luke Smith

Office Administrator

GMC Adjudications

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Luke Smith (0161 923 6502), General Medical Council

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CASE 2

Dear Mr Thackeray

Please find attached the transcripts of each of Dr Southall's hearings,
due to the size of the files I have to send these as separate e-mails.

Luke Smith

Office Administrator

GMC Adjudications

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Luke Smith (0161 923 6502), General Medical Council

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CASE 1

Dear Mr Thackeray

Please find attached the transcripts of each of Dr Southall's hearings,
due to the size of the files I have to send these as separate e-mails.

Luke Smith

Office Administrator

GMC Adjudications

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William Thackeray

Many thanks for this information, Mark, Helen and Luke.

I look forward to hearing from Julian as per Mark's email to me dated May 11th.

Yours Sincerely,

William Thackeray.

William Thackeray

Dear Sir or Madam,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of the General Medical Council's handling of my FOI request 'Dr David Southall - FTP cases'.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/dr...

My reason for requesting an internal review is:

Further response promised by Mark Ellen in his email of 11 May re my query "Could the remaining information have the personal details redacted to allow it to be released?", but no such response received.

Yours sincerely,

William Thackeray

William Thackeray

Dear Sir or Madam,

I await your response to my internal review request of 3 months ago.

Yours faithfully,

William Thackeray

William Thackeray left an annotation ()

Referred to ICO:

No response received to email dated 19 May 2009, no response to subsequent internal review request, no response to subsequent reminder email.

Full details:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/dr...

Julian Graves \(0161 923 6351\), General Medical Council

Dear Mr Thackeray

I apologise for my continued delay in responding to you on this matter.
The delay has been caused by a combination of my current workload and
the complexities of this request. As you know you have two similar
requests with the Information Commissioner at the moment and I am
considering this one along with those. You will also be aware that Dr
Southall has been the subject of a number of hearings over the past few
years and therefore the amount of information for consideration is very
substantial.

Nevertheless, I expect to be in a position to respond to you on this
matter in this near future.

Yours sincerely

Julian Graves
Information Access Manager
General Medical Council

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Julian Graves \(0161 923 6351\), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Thackeray

Please find attached the final set of exhibits as per my recent email.

Yours sincerely

Julian Graves

Information Access Manager

General Medical Council

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Julian Graves (0161 923 6351), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Thackeray

Please accept my sincere apologies for the substantial delay in responding
to you on this matter. This has been caused by a combination of my heavy
workload and the complexities of the issue in hand.

As you are aware Dr Southall has been the subject of a number of hearings,
both Fitness to Practise Panel (FtP Panel) and their predecessor, the
Professional Conduct Committee (PCC). For ease of reference I have
therefore separated out my comments based on the exhibits of each of those
hearings. My views are as follows:

PCC - 7-15 June and 5-6 August 2004

Despite a comprehensive search, I am able to confirm, as per section
1(1)(a) of FOIA, that I have been unable to trace copies of the exhibits
used for this hearing. I am, however, able to provide you with a list of
the exhibits as per the attached. This information has been obtained from
a letter held within the papers identified.

FtP Panel - 23 July 2007

I have attached a redacted version of the exhibits list together with
those documents which I believe it is appropriate to disclose. I believe
that the remaining exhibits are exempt from the access provisions of the
FOIA by virtue of the following exemptions:

Section 40(2) by virtue of section 40(3)(a)(i) - We strongly believe that
disclosure of any of these documents would breach Principle 1 of the DPA.
The First Principle requires that personal data shall be processed 'fairly
and lawfully' and in order to legitimise the processing at least one of
the conditions in Schedule 2 of the DPA must be met. We consider the only
possible condition for processing as far as personal data is concerned in
this case would be likely to be Schedule 2(6)(1) which states that
'processing is necessary for the purposes of legitimate interests' and
does not prejudice the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the
data subject. However in this case we believe that this condition would
not apply. We do not believe that there is a strong public interest in the
disclosure of documents relating to this investigation where these have
not been placed into the public domain via the Panel hearing.

Section 41(1) - Information provided in confidence - This relates to
information supplied to the GMC by any person, the disclosure of which
would constitute a breach of confidence actionable by that or any other
person.

These exemptions are absolute, which means that they are not subject to a
public interest test (in order to assess if the public interest is greater
served by disclosing the information than maintaining the exemption).

FtP Panel - 13 November - 2 December 2006 and 5 November - 4 December
2007

I have attached a redacted version of the exhibits list together with
those documents which I believe it is appropriate to disclose to you. As
you are aware we have already provided you with copies of those exhibits
recorded as C23, D19 and D20 and I have therefore not included these
again. I believe that the remaining exhibits are exempt from the access
provisions of the FOIA by virtue of the exemptions referred to above.

FtP Panel - 8 May - 4 July 2008

I have attached a redacted version of the exhibits list together with
those documents which I believe it is appropriate to disclose to you. I
believe that the remaining exhibits are exempt from the access provisions
of the FOIA by virtue of the exemptions referred to above.

FtP Panel - 11 - 16 August and 20 - 21 September 2008

I will send separately a redacted version of the exhibits list together
with those documents which I believe it is appropriate to disclose to you.
I believe that the remaining exhibits are exempt from the access
provisions of the FOIA by virtue of the exemptions referred to above.

As you are aware, should you remain dissatisfied with my response on this
matter you do have a further right of complaint to the Information
Commissioner, the regulator of the FOIA. I believe you already have their
contact details.

Yours sincerely

Julian Graves
Information Access Manager
General Medical Council

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William Thackeray

Thank you, Julian.

Yours sincerely,

William Thackeray

William Thackeray left an annotation ()

Referred to ICO 21 Oct 09, asking if redacted versions of the withheld documents could be released.

Julian Graves (0161 923 6351), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Thackeray

I'm afraid that in my email below, I inadvertently attached the wrong
hearing documents under cover of the PDF entitled "Exhibits - 8 May 2008".

I have attached the correct documents above.

Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused to you by my
error.

Yours sincerely

Julian Graves
Information Access Manager
General Medical Council

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William Thackeray

Julian, many thanks for this.

Yours sincerely,

William Thackeray

William Thackeray left an annotation ()

ICO ref FS50268922

Liz R (Account suspended) left an annotation ()

Any word from the ICO on this please?

William Thackeray left an annotation ()

The ICO are liaising with the GMC to create an index of the withheld material. They've said that it should be ready by end of Feb.