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Dear Public Health Scotland,

As Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (FOISA 2002) request please provide all of the recorded statistics and information on the COVID-19 case rate (e.g. COVID-19 cases per 100,000 persons) for the double dose vaccinated (i.e. “double jagged") group and the unvaccinated group by the age range (e.g. 40-49, 50-59) that populates Public Health Scotland (PHS) systems.

To clarify this request the double dose vaccinated group will comprise individuals who have received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech, the Moderna or the Oxford/ Astra Zeneca so-called “COVID-19 vaccines" and the unvaccinated group will comprise individuals who have received no “COVID-19 vaccines" as recorded on the NHS Scotland/PHS systems that are linked to the Community Health Index (CHI) number of the NHS patient in Scotland.

It is anticipated that PHS like Public Health England (PHE) will hold the data that is requested.

Thanks.

Yours faithfully,

J Grove

phs foi, Public Health Scotland

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Dear J Grove,

 

PHS Freedom of Information Reference 2021-000937

 

Thank you for your request for information received by Public Health
Scotland on 20^th September 2021 requesting information about.

 

‘’ As Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (FOISA 2002) request
please provide all of the recorded statistics and information on the
COVID-19 case rate (e.g. COVID-19 cases per 100,000 persons) for the
double dose vaccinated (i.e. “double jagged") group and the unvaccinated
group by the age range (e.g. 40-49, 50-59) that populates Public Health
Scotland (PHS) systems.

 

To clarify this request the double dose vaccinated group will comprise
individuals who have received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech, the
Moderna or the Oxford/ Astra Zeneca so-called “COVID-19 vaccines" and the
unvaccinated group will comprise individuals who have received no
“COVID-19 vaccines" as recorded on the NHS Scotland/PHS systems that are
linked to the Community Health Index (CHI) number of the NHS patient in
Scotland.

 

It is anticipated that PHS like Public Health England (PHE) will hold the
data that is requested.’’

 

Your request is being dealt with and will be answered within 20 working
days in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Saba ALSalahy FOI Coordinator

Public Health Scotland

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Dear J Grove,

Freedom of Information Reference: 2021-000937

Thank you for your request for information of 19 September 2021:

“As Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (FOISA 2002) request please
provide all of the recorded statistics and information on the COVID-19
case rate (e.g. COVID-19 cases per 100,000 persons) for the double dose
vaccinated (i.e. “double jagged") group and the unvaccinated group by the
age range (e.g. 40-49, 50-59) that populates Public Health Scotland (PHS)
systems.

 

To clarify this request the double dose vaccinated group will comprise
individuals who have received two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech, the
Moderna or the Oxford/ Astra Zeneca so-called “COVID-19 vaccines" and the
unvaccinated group will comprise individuals who have received no
“COVID-19 vaccines" as recorded on the NHS Scotland/PHS systems that are
linked to the Community Health Index (CHI) number of the NHS patient in
Scotland.

 

It is anticipated that PHS like Public Health England (PHE) will hold the
data that is requested.”

Having reviewed your information request, it is unclear precisely what
information is being requested. We will not be able to take this matter
further without extra information from you.

Specifically it would assist if you could clarify the terms ‘recorded
statistics’ and ‘information’ to confirm exactly what you expect to be
provided. Also,  if you could confirm the time period you are requesting
the data for? This would then enable us to determine what would be
involved and may be possible to provide having assessed the request.

 

As an example, in our weekly COVID-19 statistical report [1]published on
29 September 2021 in Figure 10, Public Health Scotland has reported the
COVID-19 case rate per 100,000 individuals eligible for vaccination by
vaccination status and age group, 7-day rolling average from 10 May 2021
to 24 September 2021. Would this cover what you are interested in?

Until we receive the necessary clarification, we consider that this
information request is suspended and that the 20 working day response
timescale will not start.

If you are unhappy with our response to your request, you have the right
to request a review. Your request should be made within 40 working days of
receipt of this correspondence, and we will reply within 20 working days
of receipt. The review will be undertaken by a reviewer who was not
involved in the original decision-making process. The reviewer can be
contacted as follows:

The FOI Reviewer

Public Health Scotland

Gyle Square

1 South Gyle Crescent

Edinburgh

EH12 9EB

Email: [2][email address]

If our decision is unchanged following a review and you remain
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Scottish Information Commissioner within six months of receipt of our
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[3]www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal. If you remain dissatisfied with the
Commissioner’s response, you then have the option to appeal to the Court
of Session on a point of law.

Kind regards,

Saba AL Salahy

 

Saba ALSalahy | FOI Coordinator

Public Health Scotland

Email: [4][email address]

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Dear phs foi,

Thanks for the communication requesting clarification of my request. I thought that the wording of my initial request would have given enough information to complete this request but I will try and expand on the information provided to assist the public authority.

PHS are directed to the report entitled ‘COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report Week 36 ’ that can be downloaded as a document with the filename ‘Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf’ from the UK Government's website. This document contains information, statistics and data in Table 6 relating to the case rates in age demographic groups of people who are over 2 weeks out from their second dose of a “COVID-19 vaccine" and those age matched groups that have not received any medical interventions. It could reasonably be expected that PHS has recorded similar information on it's systems especially the case rate in age range groups who have been “vaccinated".

If PHS does not hold the same information as PHE it could reasonably be inferred that PHS is not monitoring for breakthrough infections/cases i.e. so-called escape variants of SARS-CoV-2.

To take each question asked by PHS in turn I will attempt to give the clarification required to assist the public authority:

Specifically it would assist if you could clarify the terms ‘recorded statistics’ and ‘information’ to confirm exactly what you expect to be provided.

What is requested is the case rate (e.g. cases per 100,000, cases per 1 million etc) that are recorded by PHS for the different age groups separated by their “COVID-19 vaccine" status e.g. double dosed, unvaccinated/untreated. To be clear what is not required is all of the raw data that PHS holds on it's systems but the information that has been extracted by PHS for the determination of case rates for different age demographics and medical treatments. This case rate information should reasonably be recorded on PHS systems.

It is possible that PHS holds case rate information for individuals doubly vaccinated with the Pfizer/BioNTech nucleoside modified mRNA genetic therapy versus the Oxford/AZ modified chimpanzee adenovirus DNA genetic therapy. Clearly if such complex case rate data is recorded on PHS systems this is required as part of this request as case rate efficacy by “vaccine class" should be in the public domain.

To be clear the term “case" is as defined by PHS and the use of this term is subject to a separate FOISA 2002 request. It is possible that PHS has had different definitions of “case" over time. If this has occurred then it would be hoped that case rate data will be separated by the different ways in which the term “COVID-19 case" has been defined.

Also, if you could confirm the time period you are requesting the data for?

The time period when information is requested from is from when PHS started recording this information i.e. when the raw data on case rates and associated age and “vaccination status" was recorded on PHS systems. This period of time will likely be when a sufficiently large number of individuals in Scotland started receiving their “second jag".

The case rate information recorded by PHE and released in the ‘COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report Week 36 ’ report is cumulative data i.e. it does not take a “snapshot" over shorter ranges of time. The case rate data recorded by PHS may be more in depth than that released by PHE. If this is the situation then that the chronology of the case rate changes over time by age group and vaccination status is requested as this will identify loss of “vaccine efficacy” over time.

A cited publication in the PHE ‘COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report Week 36 ’ identifies that PHS have access to Scottish patient records associated with the CHI number that is unique to Scotland. It is therefore almost impossible to imagine that PHS does not have the case rate information associated with vaccination status and age group.

It is hoped that PHS are not delaying releasing the case rate statistics because of the “COVID-19 passport” release and there being insufficient vaccine efficacy in reducing the case rate either due to insufficient immune sterilisation conferred by the “vaccines”, “vaccine escape” by more infectious variants or the false positive rate of the Drosten PCR test (or the combination of all three).

Thanks for asking for clarification and please get back to the requester if there is anything unclear about what is being requested.

Yours sincerely,

J Grove

phs foi, Public Health Scotland

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Good afternoon J Grove,

 

Thank you for your email. The information you provided has been shared
with the internal colleagues.

 

 

I’ve noted that the following are the key items of information sought:

 

i)               the case rate (e.g. cases per 100,000, cases per 1
million etc) for the different age groups separated by their “COVID-19
vaccine" status e.g. double dosed, unvaccinated/untreated

 

ii)              case rate information for individuals doubly vaccinated
with the Pfizer/BioNTech nucleoside modified mRNA genetic therapy versus
the Oxford/AZ modified chimpanzee adenovirus DNA genetic therapy.

 

iii)            when PHS started recording information on case rates and
associated age and “vaccination status" on PHS systems

 

 

You also mentioned an interest in the definition used for “case” and
another information request. May I check, are you looking to make a
separate request, or are referring to another open request with us in PHS?

 

Many thanks

 

 

Kiri

 

Kiri Brown | Freedom of Information Officer

Public Health Scotland

Email: [1][email address]

Phone: 0131 275 7867

[mobile number]

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Scotland logo

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Dear J Grove,

 

PHS Freedom of Information Reference: 2021-000937

 

Please find attached our response to your freedom of information request,
along with one attached excel document.

 

I hope this information is helpful to you. Please do not hesitate to
contact me on [1][email address] if I can be of any further assistance.

 

If you are unhappy with our response to your request, you do have the
right to request us to review it. Your request should be made within 40
working days of receipt of this correspondence, and we will reply within
20 working days of receipt. The review will be undertaken by a reviewer
who was not involved in the original decision-making process. The reviewer
can be contacted as follows:

 

The FOI Reviewer

Public Health Scotland

Gyle Square

1 South Gyle Crescent

Edinburgh

EH12 9EB

Email: [2][email address]

 

Please note that Public Health Scotland staff are working from home
currently in line with the COVID-19 pandemic guidance. Therefore, contact
by email is preferable.

 

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Commissioner’s Office online appeals service at
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Commissioner’s response you then have the option to appeal to the Court of
Session on a point of law.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Saba ALSalahy FOI Coordinator

Public Health Scotland

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Dear Public Health Scotland,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Public Health Scotland's handling of my FOI request 'Double Dosed Vaccinated versus Unvaccinated COVID-19 Case Rates (by Age Group)'.

I am totally dissatisfied with the response from PHS and wish to request an internal review for PHS to provide the information that was requested under the FOISA 2002. The information provided by PHS identified that PHS are refining terms and thus not providing, explicitly, the information that was asked for by the requester.

By all reasonable definitions of the term "unvaccinated" it would be expected to mean that the individual human being with a unique CHI number would have received zero (i.e. absolutely no) treatment with one of the mRNA or DNA genetic therapies that are currently known as "COVID-19 vaccines".

The information provided in the Excel spreadsheet ‘FOI 2021 000937’on the ‘Data Source’ page states the following:

Vaccination status is taken at date of specimen for COVID-19 cases, acute hospital admissions, or death and assigned to number of doses according to the case definitions described below. COVID-19 vaccination status is defined as per the following:

Unvaccinated: An individual that has had no doses of COVID-19 vaccine and has tested positive for COVID-19 by PCR or has had one dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 79 has tested positive less than or equal to 21 days after their 1st dose of COVID-19 vaccine.

Dose 1: An individual that has had one dose of COVID-19 vaccine and has tested positive for COVID-19 by PCR more than 21 days after their 1st dose of COVID-19 vaccine or less than or equal to 14 days after their second dose of COVID-19 vaccine.

Dose 2: An individual that has had two doses of COVID-19 vaccine and has tested positive for COVID-19 by PCR more than 14 days after their 2nd dose of COVID-19 vaccine.

It is therefore clear that PHS is grouping "unvaccinated" with those individuals who have received a single dose of a "COVID-19 vaccine". By all reasonable definitions of the term "unvaccinated" then this is an obfuscation and misdirection of the data.

Unvaccinated should mean that no medical interventions have taken place.

PHS may be grouping those individuals who have received no treatments with a genetic therapy with those individuals who have received a single dose of a genetic therapy for the purposes of masking the untreated group as a genuine control group to measure the effects of the so-called "COVID-19 vaccines". If this is what is occurring then this would be viewed by a reasonable person as being a manipulation of medical data.

If PHS is grouping unvaccinated individuals with those that have received a single dose of one of the so-called "COVID-19" vaccines then a reasonable person may question if this is being done to cover up the cause of deaths from treatments with the so-called "COVID-19 vaccines".

What was requested from this FOISA 2002 request was the case rate for unvaccinated (i.e. no medical interventions) vs double dose vaccinated groups. If PHS does not have this data then as a requester I insist that a Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 section 17(1) exemption is formally provided to confirm that the recorded information that was requested is not recorded on PHS systems.

Thanks for conducting the internal review, I await the response with interest.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/d...

Yours faithfully,

J Grove

phs foi, Public Health Scotland

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Dear J Grove
 
Request for Internal Review - Freedom of Information Reference 2021-000937
 
I refer to your email dated 11 October in which you requested an internal
review of the response to Freedom of Information reference PHS
2021-000937.
 
We will take forward this request for an internal review. A further
response will come to you within 20 days, under the terms of the Freedom
of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (FOISA).
 
Kind regards,
 
 
Kiri Brown | Freedom of Information Officer
Public Health Scotland
Email: [1][email address]
Phone: 0131 275 7867
[mobile number]
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