Do you allow the public to record their calls with you ?
Dear Powys County Council,
1) Are Service Users clients customers the general public allowed to audio-visually record meeting and calls with your staff? If so, do they require permission or are they permitted to do so covertly? For eg with staff social workers police etc.
2) Do you have any guidance or policy for the public or service users to record calls when they speak to your staff
3) What is your organisations protocol on service users recording calls when they speak to your staff or call centres? Please provide a copy of your policy, procedure and guideline notes on this issue.
4) Do you Inform Users they can record. If the answer is no what is the reason for this please if so do send me a copy.
5) Are service users made aware of their right to record the encounter, if they choose to do so? Is this reflected in you policy document on the matter?
6) Does your organisation have an “Unacceptable Behaviour” policy? If so, please can you provide me with a copy? Regarding court staff the public or the court itself.
7) If such a policy contains points of objectionable behaviour such as telephones calls being recorded by the caller due to them being not necessary or unwanted or needed, and furthermore the staff members may feel threatened or apprehensive, are you aware that denying users the right to record calls goes against the current UK laws.
8) Are your policies and procedures compliant with the public right to audio-visually record encounters with your staff, without their consent? If not, will you provide appropriate training for your staff so they are fully informed of the Public right to record? If so what law guides you a link or copy please.
9) What is our organisations current charging policy for Freedom of Information requests (FOI) or Subject Access Requests (SAR)? If charges are applied are concessions available for those on low income or students?
10) What is your organisations complaints policy? Please can you forward me a copy? Does your complaints procedure permit service users evidence such as covert call recordings to form part of the investigation?
Yours faithfully,
Andrew Peacher
Cyfarwyddwr Strategol: Rheoli Gwybodaeth/
Adnoddau
Information Compliance
Acting Director: Resources
Neuadd Y Sir / County Hall
Mark Evans
Spa Road East
Llandrindod Wells
Powys LD1 5LG
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Our ref / Ein cyf: F2018-1119
Date / Dyddiad: 18/10/18
Request Accepted
FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT 2000
Reference No: F2018/1119
Dear Mr Peacher
Thank you for your request for information, received at this office on
18/10/2018, in which you requested details of the following:
Recording Calls
The above is a summary of your request. The full details of the
information sought is provided to the officer to whom the request is
tasked.
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Powys County Council.
Yours sincerely,
Carl Bryden
Information Compliance Officer
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Cyfarwyddwr Strategol: Rheoli Gwybodaeth/
Adnoddau
Information Compliance
Acting Director: Resources
Neuadd Y Sir / County Hall
Mark Evans
Spa Road East
Llandrindod Wells
Powys LD1 5LG
If calling please ask for / Os yn galw
gofynnwch am
Tel / Ffôn: 01597 82 7543
Email/Llythyru electronig:
[1][email address]
Our ref / Ein cyf: F2018-1119
Date / Dyddiad: 13/12/2018
Reference No: F2018-1119
Dear Mr Preacher
Thank you for your request for information dated 18/10/2018 concerning
Recording Calls
This is to inform you that your request has been considered and I can
provide the following response:
The Request/The Response:
1) Are Service Users clients customers the general public allowed to
audio-visually record meeting and calls with your staff? If so, do they
require permission or are they permitted to do so covertly? For eg with
staff social workers police etc.
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
There is no information formally recorded regarding this, however some
service areas indicate that clients/tenants/customers can request that
recordings are taken of meetings & calls – although staff do have the
right to refuse.
2) Do you have any guidance or policy for the public or service users to
record calls when they speak to your staff?
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
No documented policy in place
3) What is your organisations protocol on service users recording calls
when they speak to your staff or call centres? Please provide a copy of
your policy, procedure and guideline notes on this issue.
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
No documented policy in place, however, if a caller states that they are
recording a staff member, that staff member would be expected to inform
their line manager of what the conversation was about.
4) Do you Inform Users they can record. If the answer is no what is the
reason for this, please if so do send me a copy.
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
No information recorded
5) Are service users made aware of their right to record the encounter, if
they choose to do so? Is this reflected in you policy document on the
matter?
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
No Policy or any recorded information in place.
6) Does your organisation have an “Unacceptable Behaviour” policy? If so,
please can you provide me with a copy? Regarding court staff the public or
the court itself.
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
Within the corporate suite of HR Policies there is no policy entitled
“Unacceptable Behaviour”, however within the Housing Department, there is
the attached policy specifically for that service area. Additionally there
is signage within reception areas stating Powys County Council will not
tolerate unacceptable behaviour.
7) If such a policy contains points of objectionable behaviour such as
telephones calls being recorded by the caller due to them being not
necessary or unwanted or needed, and furthermore the staff members may
feel threatened or apprehensive, are you aware that denying users the
right to record calls goes against the current UK laws.
Policy is attached for examination but contains no reference to the
recording of calls / meetings with staff
8) Are your policies and procedures compliant with the public right to
audio-visually record encounters with your staff, without their consent?
If not, will you provide appropriate training for your staff so they are
fully informed of the Public right to record? If so what law guides you a
link or copy please.
Under Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act a public authority is
required to inform you
1 (a) whether the information requested is held by the public authority,
and
(b) to have that information communicated if that is the case.
In this case the information requested is not held.
No relevant policies and procedures recorded
9) What is our organisations current charging policy for Freedom of
Information requests (FOI) or Subject Access Requests (SAR)? If charges
are applied are concessions available for those on low income or students?
No charging policy in place for information requests.
10) What is your organisations complaints policy? Please can you forward
me a copy? Does your complaints procedure permit service users evidence
such as covert call recordings to form part of the investigation?
Section 17 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 requires Powys County
Council, when refusing to provide such information (because the
information is exempt) to provide you the applicant with a notice which:
(a) states that fact;
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In accordance with Section 21 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 I am
unable to provide you with the details you have requested.
We regret the delay you have experienced with this request. We acknowledge
that Powys County Council has failed in its obligation under the Freedom
of Information Act 2000, to provide you with a response to your request
within the statutory timescale of 20 working days. Please accept our
apologies for this and for any inconvenience this may have caused.
We believe that this request is now complete and shall be closed
immediately. Should any further information be requested regarding this
topic, a separate request will need to be submitted.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Powys County Council.
Yours sincerely,
Information Compliance Team
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