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Disposal of Lands at Ravenscraig Hospital

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Dear River Clyde Homes,
The information I am seeking is regarding the disposal of lands at Ravenscraig Hospital Greenock. The sale of Ravenscraig hospital by the NHS to Link Group Limited and the relationship between the more homes division of the Scottish government, the NHS and Link Group Limited has already been subject to previous FOI requests. The Scottish Governments website confirms this as can be seen by following this link https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-18... reference: FOI/18/02896
Date received: 6 October 2018
Date responded: 8 November 2018
FOI-18-02896 - related documents (part 1)

The sale is assumed to be between the NHS direct to Link Group. However from the information published which consists of an email exchange between link group, the NHS and more homes Scotland it appears River Clyde Homes is also included in this exchange and in the involvement of disposing of the land at Ravenscraig Hospital to link group limited. Contained within the email exchange someone from River Clyde Homes advises the Association plan to get approval on 27th February 2018 from the Performance and Services Committee to dispose of the land at Ravenscraig Hospital. It is noted that this is being done in order to gain governing body consent and also to satisfy the guidance on disposals as issued by the Regulator.
This is confirmed to have happened and been approved and contained within the committee meeting minutes of River Clyde Homes of the 20th March 2018, Section 5.3 of said minutes states 'disposal of land at Ravenscraig Hospital' however, the specific information is contained within the confidential minutes not avalible on riverclyde homes website.
The question I wish to ask is as follows:

1, What land at the Ravenscraig Hospital site did river clyde homes own which they wished to dispose of. Did the land owned include any of the land of the former hospital buildings and was approval granted to dispose of said land by the Scottish Regulator and if so what date was this given.

2, When did River clyde homes become the legal land owner of the disposed land, who was the land originally purchased from or succeeded/ donated from and has this ever been registered previously with the registers of Scotland land registry or the Register of Sasines. If so please advise of the title number or Sasines reference.

3, Who did River Clyde homes dispose of the land to, what organisation was this and what purpose did the Association know or assume the land was to be used for? If this was for house building then why did the Association being a social landlord not use the land to build properties of their own on.

4, What was the purchase price paid to Riverclyde Homes from the organisation taking over the land and is this recorded publicly in any official documents. Was a valuation completed prior to sale? What was the land valued at? Was it sold for the valuation price and is the valuation avalible for viewing by the public?

5, What was the reasoning for disposal and how did River clyde homes ensure that charitable assets were not being under sold and having a negative effect on the charitble assests. Has the charity regulator been advised of the said disposal to ensure compliance with regulations?

6, What was contained within the report sent to housing regulator for reasons of disposing of said land and what date was disposal approved. Did the land to be disposed of form part of any of the land included within Link Group Limited planning applications to Inverclyde council.

7, Was any environmental or contamination reports regarding the land disposed of completed by Riverclyde Homes during or before its ownership of the land and are these documents available for viewing by the public and was the Governing committee made aware of any of these prior to disposal.

Yours faithfully,

Nicky

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Dear River Clyde Homes,
I await your response to my foi request and believe that by law this should of already have been received. Please advise me as a Matter of urgency why there has been a delay in responding to my request and when I can expect to receive an answer to my questions which you are legally obligied to answer.

Yours faithfully,

Nicky

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This is a communication from River Clyde Homes. River Clyde Homes is a
company limited by guarantee registered in Scotland under number SC329031
whose registered office is at Roxburgh House, Roxburgh Street, Greenock,
PA15 4JT, United Kingdom. We are regulated by the Office of the Scottish
Charity Regulator. Our Scottish Charity Number is SC038584. For further
information upon River Clyde Homes, please visit our website at
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is intended for the addressee only. If you received this email in error
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any of the information contained within it is strictly forbidden. River
Clyde Homes will not be liable for any loss, cost, expense, damage or
other liability arising from the unauthorised use, disclosure, copying,
reliance upon or alteration of this communication or any of the
information contained within it. The contents of this communication are
not given or endorsed by River Clyde Homes unless provided in the normal
course of our business. River Clyde Homes uses reasonable efforts to
ensure that any communications it sends are free from malicious code,
however, River Clyde Homes make no warranty in this respect. River Clyde
Homes will not be liable for any loss, cost, expense, damage or other
liability arising from malicious code forming part of this communication.

Lucy Docherty, River Clyde Homes

Good morning,

Please could you advise of the content of your original request and where this has been sent?

Kind Regards

Lucy Docherty
Data Protection Officer
T: 01475 788874
E: [email address]

River Clyde Homes | Roxburgh House | 102–112 Roxburgh Street | Greenock PA15 4JT
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Dear Lucy Docherty,
Thankyou for contacting. I can confirm the original request was sent on 30th November 2019 to the same mail box as my last message requesting an update which was sent in the past few days. I can also confirm that I received an acknowledgement email from River Clyde Homes after the original email of 30th November 2019 was received however no response followed. I have copied and pasted the content of the original message below. I look forward to receiving your response
Yours sincerely,

Nicky

Original request details

Dear River Clyde Homes,
The information I am seeking is regarding the disposal of lands at Ravenscraig Hospital Greenock. The sale of Ravenscraig hospital by the NHS to Link Group Limited and the relationship between the more homes division of the Scottish government, the NHS and Link Group Limited has already been subject to previous FOI requests. The Scottish Governments website confirms this as can be seen by following this link https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-18... reference: FOI/18/02896
Date received: 6 October 2018
Date responded: 8 November 2018
FOI-18-02896 - related documents (part 1)

The sale is assumed to be between the NHS direct to Link Group. However from the information published which consists of an email exchange between link group, the NHS and more homes Scotland it appears River Clyde Homes is also included in this exchange and in the involvement of disposing of the land at Ravenscraig Hospital to link group limited. Contained within the email exchange someone from River Clyde Homes advises the Association plan to get approval on 27th February 2018 from the Performance and Services Committee to dispose of the land at Ravenscraig Hospital. It is noted that this is being done in order to gain governing body consent and also to satisfy the guidance on disposals as issued by the housing Regulator. This process is confirmed to have happened and have been approved and contained within the committee meeting minutes of River Clyde Homes of the 20th March 2018, Section 5.3 of said minutes states 'disposal of land at Ravenscraig Hospital' however, the specific information is contained within the confidential minutes not avalible on riverclyde homes website. The question I wish to ask is as follows:

1, What land at the Ravenscraig Hospital site did river clyde homes own which they wished to dispose of. Did the land owned include any of the land of the former hospital buildings and was approval granted to dispose of said land by the Scottish Regulator and if so what date was this given.

2, When did River clyde homes become the legal land owner of the disposed land, who was the land originally purchased from or succeeded/ donated from and has this ever been registered previously with the registers of Scotland land registry or the Register of Sasines. If so please advise of the title number or Sasines reference.

3, Who did River Clyde homes dispose of the land to, what organisation was this and what purpose did the Association know or assume the land was to be used for? If this was for house building then why did the Association being a social landlord not use the land to build properties of their own on.

4, What was the purchase price paid to Riverclyde Homes from the organisation taking over the land and is this recorded publicly in any official documents. Was a valuation completed prior to sale? What was the land valued at? Was it sold for the valuation price and is the valuation avalible for viewing by the public?

5, What was the reasoning for disposal and how did River clyde homes ensure that charitable assets were not being under sold and having a negative effect on the charitble assests. Has the charity regulator been advised of the said disposal to ensure compliance with regulations?

6, What was contained within the report sent to housing regulator for reasons of disposing of said land and what date was disposal approved. Did the land to be disposed of form part of any of the land included within Link Group Limited planning applications to Inverclyde council.

7, Was any environmental or contamination reports regarding the land disposed of completed by Riverclyde Homes during or before its ownership of the land and are these documents available for viewing by the public and was the Governing committee made aware of any of these prior to disposal.

Yours faithfully,

Nicky

FOI, River Clyde Homes

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Dear Nicky,

 

Thank you for your request for a review under the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002 received on 6^th January 2020 for information in
respect of disposal of lands at Ravenscraig Hospital.

 

The original request sent on 30 November was not a valid request as it did
not, in accordance with section 8(1)(b) of the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002 (FOISA), state the name of the applicant. As your
request does not state your full name we do not consider it to be a valid
request and are not obliged to respond to it. However, if you provide us
with your name we will be able to fully consider your request for
information and treat it as an initial request and respond in accordance
with the Act. This will also mean you are entitled to your full rights
under the Act in respect of reviewing our decision.

 

The Scottish Information Commissioner’s guidance provides further
information about what is required in respect of name requirements for a
valid request.
[1]file://riverclydehomes.local/RCH/Redirected/dochertyl/Downloads/Informationrequeststhenameoftherequesterorapplicant.pdf

 

If you need any further assistance with making a valid request to River
Clyde Homes please contact: [2][email address]

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

Lucy Docherty
Data Protection Officer

T:    01475 788874

E:    [3][email address]

 

River Clyde Homes | Roxburgh House | 102–112 Roxburgh Street | Greenock
PA15 4JT

Our vision: [4]Improving lives and places

 

              

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This is a communication from River Clyde Homes. River Clyde Homes is a
company limited by guarantee registered in Scotland under number SC329031
whose registered office is at Roxburgh House, Roxburgh Street, Greenock,
PA15 4JT, United Kingdom. We are regulated by the Office of the Scottish
Charity Regulator. Our Scottish Charity Number is SC038584. For further
information upon River Clyde Homes, please visit our website at
https://www.riverclydehomes.org.uk. This communication is confidential and
is intended for the addressee only. If you received this email in error
you should not distribute, disseminate or copy this email, please destroy
it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use,
disclosure, copying, reliance upon or alteration of this communication or
any of the information contained within it is strictly forbidden. River
Clyde Homes will not be liable for any loss, cost, expense, damage or
other liability arising from the unauthorised use, disclosure, copying,
reliance upon or alteration of this communication or any of the
information contained within it. The contents of this communication are
not given or endorsed by River Clyde Homes unless provided in the normal
course of our business. River Clyde Homes uses reasonable efforts to
ensure that any communications it sends are free from malicious code,
however, River Clyde Homes make no warranty in this respect. River Clyde
Homes will not be liable for any loss, cost, expense, damage or other
liability arising from malicious code forming part of this communication.

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Dear FOI,
Firstly, the request was sent from a public knowledge website please see the link below for the full publication of all exchanges between me and your organisation

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/6...

Secondly, from your response I can assume that rather that take the courtious route and request that any missing information be provided your organisation insteads chooses to ignore it's public sector duty and hope the questions go away? I find this level of customer service absolutely dreadful and shameful to an organisation who preaches about its inclusiveness.

Thirdly my name is Nicky, A. For the avoidance of doubt, I do not have a title such as Mr,Mrs Ms or Miss as I do not conform to binary gender stereotypes. Therefore my name is Nicky. The A is representative of a surname and is my chosen prefix simply as it's the first letter.

Unfortunately I do not have a family name which I believe is personal information and do not feel comfortable disclosing such on this public forum. It is disappointing that an agency representing the Scottish ministers directly by performing a public sector duty on their behalf should insist on these most archaic and discriminatory binary terms.

From this I assume the buzz words used apon your
web site regarding equality and diversity to be just that 'buzz words' which you clearly have not taken up in practice. The public sector equality duty finds another organisation Willing to expose it's loop holes for its own personal and predujice self preservation. It's as disgraceful as your level of customer service.

Yours faithfully,

Nicky, A.

FOI, River Clyde Homes

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Dear Nicky,

 

The original request, as previously acknowledged, was not responded to due
to an oversight internally with the email failing to be redirected to
relevant department.

 

We are happy to handle your information request, but ask that you submit a
valid request. Without doing so, you will not be able to exercise a right
of review or appeal.

 

In relation to the name requirements We do not require your title as you
have provided a first name, however your surname is required for this to
be a valid request. Please see the Scottish Information Commissioner's
guidance on name requirements:
[1]http://www.itspublicknowledge.info/Law/F...
 Relevant extract from this is also provided below:

 

 

 

If you are concerned with providing your surname on a public forum, a
request can be submitted to the [2][email address]  email
address directly.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

Lucy Docherty
Data Protection Officer

T:    01475 788874

E:    [3][email address]

 

River Clyde Homes | Roxburgh House | 102–112 Roxburgh Street | Greenock
PA15 4JT

Our vision: [4]Improving lives and places

 

              

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