DISCRETION / ETHICS ?
Dear Sir or Madam,
Should the Councils' private car park depts ignore Blue Badges so that they can harrass with unfair PCNs .Why does not each PCN have to have marked down whether or not Blue Badges displayed [ or picture]? Why do they say after 50 letters "Don't do it again??!" Do they think one is doing on purpose? When one changes car which you have to privately sell because Motobility discriminating, why do you have to buy visitors vouchers .
Should they ignore info sent for Disabled Bay and Social Services 20x even when monitored by their complaints, solicitor & MP , and, if one raises the issue register you dishonestly as mental.
Yours faithfully,
Julie Shrive
Dear Ms Shrive,
Thank you for Freedom of Information request (FOI) received by email
Thursday 28 May at 11.08 into the DPTAC email account. Please could you
confirm what information you are seeking released under the Act? Also
please could you clarify if you are seeking information held by DPTAC and
/ or the Department for Transport.
If you are seeking guidance and advice on the Blue Badge scheme and its
administration by local authorities please can you confirm this, and we
will then be able to pass your request to the relevant area of the
Department for Transport. If this is the case it would not be a request
under the Freedom of Information Act.
The Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee
DPTAC is an independent statutory advisory body to Government, on the
needs of disabled people with regard to transport. DPTAC’s advice to
Government, on various policies, reflects the requirements and concerns of
people with a wide range of disabilities.
You may find further useful information on our websites: www.dptac.gov.uk
and www.dptac.gov.uk/door-to-door/index.htm
With best regards,
DPTAC
Secretariat
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee's handling of my FOI request 'DISCRETION / ETHICS ?' because it is set up as an enquiry line/ call centre not assisting or monitoring that there is no discrimination likewise the Equality Commission .
Far more constructive would be to know what they are going to do constructively to prevent this discrimination happening in future as that is their role which they don't understand .Surely I shouldn't have to point this out? Also why is their Chief Adjudicator saying he is not there to administer justice and Royal Courts of Justice and their admin deliberately lose the evidence to prevent Judicial Review in front of DART in 2002 causing me financial loss that is had to extend MA a year because of maladministration and delays ie: fees / living costs? .NB Return of Evidence Ministry of Justice .
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/di...
Yours sincerely,
Julie Shrive
Dear Ms Shrive,
Freedom of Information Request to the Disabled Persons Transport Advisory
Committee (DPTAC)
I am responding to your e-mail of the 29th May 2009 concerning your
Freedom of Information request, the original of which was received in the
DPTAC email account on 28th May 2009:
‘Should the Councils' private car park depts ignore Blue Badges so that
they can harrass with unfair PCNs .Why does not each PCN have to have
marked down whether or not Blue Badges displayed [or picture]? Why do they
say after 50 letters "Don't do it again??!" Do they think one is doing on
purpose? When one changes car which you have to privately sell because
Motobility discriminating, why do you have to buy visitors vouchers.
Should they ignore info sent for Disabled Bay and Social Services 20x even
when monitored by their complaints, solicitor & MP , and, if one raises
the issue register you dishonestly as mental.’
I would like to clarify why I emailed you back seeking clarification on
the exact nature of the request you are making under the Freedom of
Information Act. I am Deputy Secretary for DPTAC and in order to provide a
full response to any email or letter, received by DPTAC, it is sometimes
necessary to seek clarification from the author to ensure the Secretariat
can provide a full response.
In the case of your email I sought clarification from you in order to find
the extent and content of the information we require. If you would like
some background information on the working and administration of the Blue
Badge scheme I would be happy to provide this to you and you may also find
that your local authority will be able to provide you with direct
information on the administration of the Blue Badge scheme, as it relates
to your particular circumstances. If your request is not as I have
suggested please can you clarify exactly what information you are seeking
from DPTAC?
With regard to your request for an internal review, at this stage I cannot
ask that a review is undertaken as we are still seeking clarification on
the nature of the information sought. Once we have this clarification and
it is deemed suitable for it to be dealt with under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, then a decision notice will be issued within 20
working days (the timescales laid down in the Act). If at that stage you
are unhappy with the decision, or any aspect of the handling of your
request, you may then ask for an internal review.
Please let me know if I can provide any further information on the above.
With best regards,
Ann Morley
Deputy Secretary for
For the DPTAC Secretariat
Annex A
1 General right of access to information held by public authorities
(1) Any person making a request for information to a public authority is
entitled—
(a) to be informed in writing by the public authority whether it holds
information of the description specified in the request, and
(b) if that is the case, to have that information communicated to him.
(2) Subsection (1) has effect subject to the following provisions of this
section and to the provisions of sections 2, 9, 12 and 14.
(3) Where a public authority—
(a) reasonably requires further information in order to identify and
locate the information requested, and
(b) has informed the applicant of that requirement,
the authority is not obliged to comply with subsection (1) unless it is
supplied with that further information.
(4) The information—
(a) in respect of which the applicant is to be informed under subsection
(1)(a), or
(b) which is to be communicated under subsection (1)(b),
is the information in question held at the time when the request is
received, except that account may be taken of any amendment or deletion
made between that time and the time when the information is to be
communicated under subsection (1)(b), being an amendment or deletion that
would have been made regardless of the receipt of the request.
(5) A public authority is to be taken to have complied with subsection
(1)(a) in relation to any information if it has communicated the
information to the applicant in accordance with subsection (1)(b).
(6) In this Act, the duty of a public authority to comply with subsection
(1)(a) is referred to as “the duty to confirm or deny”.
Julie Shrive (Account suspended) left an annotation ()
What is not clear? Do you have ethics and process to address issues where disabled people are discriminated against to the point of cardiac arrest [ myself and others] , or are you doing the discrimination by having a Chief Adjudicator , for TfL- in 2001-] saying in front of Dart that adjudicators are not there to administer justice . This was basis the for my MA where the Royal Courts of justice deliberately lost/destroyed the papers so making undemocratic decisions, by preventing judicial review .I found noone legal overseeing addressing ethical issues of discretion so had to extend MA a year paying extra fees and living costs. Fair? The Court Service knew this yet has done nothing since as happened again. Surely this is a civil liberties issue problem?
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews and resolves unethical situations .
I am writing to request an internal review of Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee's handling of my FOI request 'DISCRETION / ETHICS ? and treatment since first had a Blue Badge 1996' and the handling of my papers for Judicial Review in 2001 preventing justice at the Royal Courts of Justice .This has caused severe financial loss , waste of time and severe health damage.
A partial history of my FOI request and a fraction of the correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/di...
Yours sincerely,
Julie Shrive
Dear Ms Shrive
I attach a letter from the Head of the Blue Badge and Equality Scheme Division in response to your request for an internal review into the Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee's handling of your e-mails dated 28th May 2009 and 2nd June 2009.
Yours sincerely
Deborah Walker
Dear Ms Shrive
Further to my earlier e-mail I attach a copy of the guidance note from the Information Commissioner's Office on how to make a Freedom of Information request.
Deborah Walker
Dear DPTAC,
Why don't you have employees that care and are humane and want to resolve. What on earth is this below all about? Its this sort of behaviour causing the stress that caused my cardiac 2 years ago You don't need extermination camps when you have the hospitals and the Illegal Appeals Service !!How is this going to help?Are we paying for this?!
I am dyspraxic How can I clarify when you are brainwashed on remits to not understand ??!!I takes an individual with certain calibre, experience and integrity to understand and sort out.They are not found in Call Centres!
THIS BELOW IS YOU
I have conducted, in accordance with this Department's procedures, an independent internal review of the way we have handled your request.
I have considered your request and the responses sent by the Department on 29th May 2009 and 2nd June 2009, in which we sought clarification from you on the information you were after. I have also considered the advice and assistance we have provided to you in accordance with our duty to do so under section 16 of the Act.
We have written to you twice seeking further clarification of your request and in our second letter we explained the reasons why we needed clarification. We also advised you that we are unlikely to hold information on the local issue that you described in your request. In carrying out this review I can confirm that Section 21 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970, which the Blue Badge regulations were created under does not contain any reference to the issues raised.
I enclose a link to the Act on the Office of Public Sector Information website in case you find it useful.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1970/pdf...
I have concluded that we were right to seek further clarification from you under section 1(3) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (see extract of the Act at Annex A to this letter) because your request did not adequately describe the information you were seeking from us, and that we have given you appropriate advice and assistance. Despite us giving you two opportunities to clarify your request you have failed to do so, and I must therefore advise you that we are unable to deal with it any further under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
To help you make future requests to public authorities under FOI, I have enclosed a guidance note that has been issued by the Information Commissioner's Office. I hope you will find this useful.
If you are not content with this outcome you have the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner for a decision. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at:
Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Yours sincerely,
Miranda Carter
Yours sincerely,
Julie Shrive
Julie Shrive (Account suspended) left an annotation ()
Are the Committee deciding on procedures and are they given the Blue Badge and Disability Cases to personally monitor? This person is incapable of resolving as tries to get out of ethical operation - probably on a remit.
Why are the public paying for this unethical rubbish she can't even pass it to the committee as probably told what to do by a suspect accountant.The people in this country want and deserve people with calibre , integrity and decency administering
discretion not this rubbish.
Dear Sir or Madam,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee's handling of my FOI request 'DISCRETION / ETHICS ?'.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/di... behaviour of their admin and adjudicators causing civil liberties abuse and corrupt procedures NB Deliberate loss of evidence to prevent a judicial review.
Yours sincerely,
Julie Shrive
Ben Jones left an annotation ()
As has already been mentioned on many of your numerous correspondence you are going up the wrong road with your requests. Very few if any of your letters appear to be requests for information as recognised by the FOIA.
As your request has already been responded to, and the same for your request for an Internal Review you can not ask for another one. All this public authority has asked is for YOU to provide them with further information so they can help you. Disjointed rambling statements are not requests.
I have no doubt that there are serious issues which you want to find out answers for, but yu ned to distinguish between advice, and information. Additionally if you are after information which refers to you only, then it may be more sensible to ask for a subject access request, although this will cost you ten quid.
Alternatively, if your dyspraxia is having an affect on the way in which you are wording your request (as a dyslexic I have every sympathy with this) why not try and phoning up the departments, and speaking to their public enquiries team.
If you are unhappy yOu now need to go to the ICO.
Dear Ms Shrive
Thank you for your most recent correspondence. We remain unable to identify the specific information you are seeking. As you are clearly unhappy with the service we have provided, you should now take your complaint to the Information Commissioner as stated in our previous letter.
We cannot enter into any further correspondence on this matter unless you are able to state clearly exactly what information you would like us to supply to you.
Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee
Dear DPTAC,
You are not operating ethically discriminating in a democracy probably call centre on remit with no discretion replying . You have wasted an awful lot of time trying not to address fundamental civil liberties problems and issues surely they don't need clarification just read 70+information requests . You are saying send this to to Information Commissioner but they are a waste of time too looking at process NOT THE ISSUE ITSELF with same structure . I just want people to see how the whole system doesn't work except to give you a wage and is so totally unjust, undemocratic it is human rights abuse.
So I request an oral meeting with one of committee who can resolve, my expert witness due to you lack of direction allowing those on remits to disregard my disabilities one of which is dyspraxia . So need to resolve orally urgently this week as now affecting rettaxing vehicle when I have an MOT and Insurance and document re: DLA higher rate but not certIficate and are so mean won't let me send in photocopy of higher rate DLA . I have had a cardiac arrest three years ago because of stress caused by this structure.
Yours sincerely,
Julie Shrive
Julie Shrive (Account suspended) left an annotation ()
I have been phoning since 1997 and following what told to do look where I am now . Had a cardiac . So your advice is smug and a complete waste of time. I have to do this because of the maladministration elsewhere yes even MP . If you are dyslexic you should not be telling me what to do as you haven't a clue what democracy is . You can't even recognise a question when you see one . Appalling
Mr Ormerod left an annotation ()
"If you are dyslexic you should not be telling me what to do as you haven't a clue what democracy is"
What? How insulting.
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Julie Shrive (Account suspended) left an annotation ()
Yet another advice org we need ASSISTANCE
DPTAC is an independent statutory advisory body to Government, on the needs of disabled people with regard to transport. DPTAC’s advice to Government, on various policies, reflects the requirements and concerns of people with a wide range of disabilities.
If you had any reason or sense you would understand what is happening shouldn't be because you are not advising the Government well enough. Instead you have sent a lot of waffle to save yourself from acting competently/ethically becausae a suspect accountant is directing you into wasting your time.