Dear University of Dundee,

[1] The percentages of students who graduated from all of your law-related courses (i.e. all courses with course code M1**) in the following years

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019

who were awarded First Class Honours. Please provide the % of Firsts separately for each year (e.g. 10% for 2010, 15% for 2011, 12% for 2012, etc.)

[2] The percentages of students who graduated from all of your law-related courses (i.e. all courses with course code M1**) in the following years

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019

who were awarded Upper Second Class Honours (‘2.1’). Please provide the % of 2.1s separately for each year.

[3] The percentages of students who graduated from all of your law-related courses (i.e. all courses with course code M1**) in the following years

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019

who were awarded Lower Second Class Honours (‘2:2’). Please provide the % of 2.2s separately for each year.

Do let me know if you would like me to clarify any aspect of this request.

Yours faithfully,

Kat Ammann

FreedomOfInformation, University of Dundee

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Alan Bell

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University of Dundee

Dundee DD1 4HN

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FreedomOfInformation, University of Dundee

Dear Ms Ammann,

Thank you for your request for information from the University of Dundee. Colleagues suggest that the best source for the information you require is the Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA). They will be able to provide data compiled on a like-for-like basis and therefore directly comparable between years (and institutions), giving you a robust dataset for your research. Information on their tailored dataset service is available online here - https://www.hesa.ac.uk/services/custom/d....

For completeness, I note that the University considers this information to be reasonably obtainable from HESA and therefore exempt from disclosure by the University per S.16 and S.25 of FoI(S)A. That exemption notes that information may be reasonably obtainable even if payment is required for access to it. The University is not required to have regard to the public interest in the application of this exemption.

I trust that this is helpful, but please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or I can offer any assistance.

Kind regards,

Alan

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On 07/08/2019, 21:08, "Kat Ammann" <[FOI #595860 email]> wrote:

Dear University of Dundee,

[1] The percentages of students who graduated from all of your law-related courses (i.e. all courses with course code M1**) in the following years

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019

who were awarded First Class Honours. Please provide the % of Firsts separately for each year (e.g. 10% for 2010, 15% for 2011, 12% for 2012, etc.)

[2] The percentages of students who graduated from all of your law-related courses (i.e. all courses with course code M1**) in the following years

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019

who were awarded Upper Second Class Honours (‘2.1’). Please provide the % of 2.1s separately for each year.

[3] The percentages of students who graduated from all of your law-related courses (i.e. all courses with course code M1**) in the following years

2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019

who were awarded Lower Second Class Honours (‘2:2’). Please provide the % of 2.2s separately for each year.

Do let me know if you would like me to clarify any aspect of this request.

Yours faithfully,

Kat Ammann

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Hello,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of University of Dundee's handling of my FOI request 'Degree Classifications for Law Graduates since 2010'. A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/d....

The data up to and including 2018 was refused under s.21 FOIA 2000 (information reasonably accessible to the applicant by other means). However, I believe that the s.21 exemption does not apply, for the following reasons:

1) Having submitted a request for a single institution's data to HESA, I was informed that only the data for 5 years' worth of graduates (not all 10) could be provided. Further years would require an additional fee. This fee would presumably be applied to every institution I requested data for.

2) Having submitted a second custom request for data to HESA, where I requested data for a number of universities for just one year's worth of graduates (2018), I was informed that an administrative fee of £20 would be charged, as my work was to be used for the purposes of a postgraduate research project.

3) The HESA website does not provide the information I am looking for. The closest I have come to what I am looking for is the following page: https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-analysis..., which does not provide breakdowns of degree classifications by subject, only by institution.

As proven, I cannot reasonably access the data in the public domain. The custom request to HESA cannot cover the full range of years I requested (2010 to 2019), nor does it come for free for someone in my position. I should note in advance that I have to make other requests to other universities for the same data, and that, while £20 may seem just about affordable, the cost if all institutions were to force me to submit a HESA custom request would be at least ten times this amount. For example, if I were to make ten requests, each for a year's worth of data, HESA's administrative fees alone would reach £200. This is not a reasonable sum.

I hope to hear from you soon. Do let me know if you have any further questions.

Best Regards,
Kat Ammann

FreedomOfInformation, University of Dundee

Thank you for your email. If your message contains a request for
information the University will respond no later than 20 working days from
its receipt (or one month from receipt in the case of requests for your
own personal information).

Kind regards,

Alan Bell

Head of Information Governance

University of Dundee

Dundee DD1 4HN

The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No: SC015096

FreedomOfInformation, University of Dundee

Dear Ms Ammann,

Thank you for your request that the University review its response to your message of 7 August. Senior colleagues are persuaded that the exemption in S.25 of FoI(S)A should not apply in this case.

Please find the data you requested below for the years where it is available (rounded the nearest whole percentage point). The data is University of Dundee data sourced from HESA via the Heidi Plus online analytics service.

M1 LAW
First class honours
2009/10 – 7
2010/11 – 14%
2011/12 – 10%
2012/13 – 5%
2013/14 – 10%
2014/15 – 12%
2015/16 – 26%
2016/17 – 22%
2017/18 – 23%

Upper second class honours
2009/10 – 56%
2010/11 – 57%
2011/12 – 48%
2012/13 – 64%
2013/14 – 62%
2014/15 – 65%
2015/16 – 58%
2016/17 – 61%
2017/18 – 45%

Lower second class honours
2009/10 – 19%
2010/11 – 14%
2011/12 – 24%
2012/13 – 23%
2013/14 – 24%
2014/15 – 19%
2015/16 – 11%
2016/17 – 6%
2017/18 – 18%

I trust that this is helpful. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Kind regards,

Alan

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Alan Bell
Head of Information Governance
Culture & Information
University of Dundee
Dundee DD1 4HN

t: 01382 384441
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/cultureandinform...

This email is not legal advice and should not be considered in that way.

If you are unhappy with the outcome of your review please forward your appeal to the Scottish Information Commissioner, Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Rd, St Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS (www.itspublicknowledge.info/Appeal).

If you remain dissatisfied following an appeal to the Scottish Information Commissioner your recourse is to the Court of Session on a point of law.

The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No: SC015096