Definitive Map 1975

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Dear Gwynedd Council,

Please could you advise where we can view a verified copy of the final printed Definitive Map for 1975 which we understand is the one you are using currently for footpaths in Gwynedd.
We have tried to view the archive draft and provisional for this but it seems that although they have been documented in your archive records department - when the archive staff went to retrieve these - they found these were missing without any record of where they have gone.

Yours faithfully,
Dawn Duckworth

Rhyddid Gwybodaeth, Gwynedd Council

Diolch yn fawr am eich cais diweddar o dan y Ddeddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth
2000.

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Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw atodiad iddo yn gyfrinachol ac fe'i bwriedir ar
gyfer y sawl a enwir arno yn unig. Gall gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os
yw wedi eich cyrraedd trwy gamgymeriad ni ellwch ei gopio, ei ddosbarthu
na'i ddangos i unrhyw un arall a dylech gysylltu â'r anfonwr ar unwaith.
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yr e-bost yn bersonol i'r awdur.

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deddfwriaeth mewn perthynas â prosesu a rheoli data, sydd yn cynnwys y
GDPR, Deddf Diogelu Data 2018 a Deddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000.

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Rhyddid Gwybodaeth, Gwynedd Council

Good morning, further to your FOI request T398 – the relevant Officer is
eager for you to clarify which routes/areas you have in mind as the
documents are very voluminous.

 

I look forward to your reply.

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Rhian Jones

Adran Cefnogaeth Gorfforaethol/Corporate Support Department

 

 

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Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw atodiad iddo yn gyfrinachol ac fe'i bwriedir ar
gyfer y sawl a enwir arno yn unig. Gall gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os
yw wedi eich cyrraedd trwy gamgymeriad ni ellwch ei gopio, ei ddosbarthu
na'i ddangos i unrhyw un arall a dylech gysylltu â'r anfonwr ar unwaith.
Mae unrhyw gynnwys nad yw'n ymwneud â busnes swyddogol y corff sy'n anfon
yr e-bost yn bersonol i'r awdur.

Gall cynnwys yr e-bost hwn gael ei ddatgelu yn unol â gofynion
deddfwriaeth mewn perthynas â prosesu a rheoli data, sydd yn cynnwys y
GDPR, Deddf Diogelu Data 2018 a Deddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000.

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Arbedwch bapur, ynni ac arian - Peidiwch argraffu'r neges yma oni bai ei
bod yn hollol angenrheidiol.
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absolutely necessary.

Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thank you - the area is Dolbenmaen Caernarvonshire - I understand the sheet number for the Provisional map was Sheet SH53 which was OS 1:10,560

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth

Rhyddid Gwybodaeth, Gwynedd Council

Thank you - will pass this information on to the relevant Officer.

Rhian Jones
Adran Cefnogaeth Gorfforaethol/Corporate Support Department

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
Oddi wrth: Dawn Duckworth <[FOI #1018462 email]>
Anfonwyd: Dydd Gwener, 25 Awst 2023 12:28
At: Rhyddid Gwybodaeth <[Gwynedd Council request email]>
Pwnc: Re: YML/FW: Cais Rhyddid Gwybodaeth / FOI Request - 398

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Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thank you - the area is Dolbenmaen Caernarvonshire - I understand the sheet number for the Provisional map was Sheet SH53 which was OS 1:10,560

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth

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Rhyddid Gwybodaeth, Gwynedd Council

Dear Dawn Duckworth,

 

Freedom of Information (Ref 398)

 

Thank you for your recent request. Please see below for the information
requested:

 

There are various draft and definitive maps available for inspection at
Gwynedd Council headquarters in Caernarfon. Please contact the Rights of
Way Team, [1][email address].cymru to discuss which maps you would
like to view and to arrange a convenient time.

 

 

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Lisa Marie Williams

Cefnogaeth Gorfforaethol/Corporate Support

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Mae'r e-bost hwn ac unrhyw atodiad iddo yn gyfrinachol ac fe'i bwriedir ar
gyfer y sawl a enwir arno yn unig. Gall gynnwys gwybodaeth freintiedig. Os
yw wedi eich cyrraedd trwy gamgymeriad ni ellwch ei gopio, ei ddosbarthu
na'i ddangos i unrhyw un arall a dylech gysylltu â'r anfonwr ar unwaith.
Mae unrhyw gynnwys nad yw'n ymwneud â busnes swyddogol y corff sy'n anfon
yr e-bost yn bersonol i'r awdur.

Gall cynnwys yr e-bost hwn gael ei ddatgelu yn unol â gofynion
deddfwriaeth mewn perthynas â prosesu a rheoli data, sydd yn cynnwys y
GDPR, Deddf Diogelu Data 2018 a Deddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000.

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Arbedwch bapur, ynni ac arian - Peidiwch argraffu'r neges yma oni bai ei
bod yn hollol angenrheidiol.
Save paper, energy and money - Do not print this message unless it is
absolutely necessary.

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Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thank you for your reply. However I have already followed your advice and still have not seen a verified dated copy of the final Definitive map which I understand your footpath department have used in 2022/23 for footpath changes in the Dolbenmaen area. We have been told the Definitive map was finalised in 1975 and printed in January 1976 - this is the map we would like to view please. Please advise where this map is located.

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth

Rhyddid Gwybodaeth, Gwynedd Council

Good afternoon

You will need to send a request in regards to the below map to the Rights of Way Team.

Email address : [email address].cymru

They will arrange a convenient time for you to view the map at the Gwynedd Council offices in Caernarfon.

Kind regards

Lisa Marie Williams
Cefnogaeth Gorfforaethol/Corporate Support

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
Oddi wrth: Dawn Duckworth <[FOI #1018462 email]>
Anfonwyd: Dydd Iau, 7 Medi 2023 00:49
At: Rhyddid Gwybodaeth <[Gwynedd Council request email]>
Pwnc: Re: Cais Rhyddid Gwybodaeth / FOI Request - 398

Rhybudd / Caution: Mae’r neges hon yn tarddu o du allan i’r sefydliad. Cymerwch bwyll wrth glicio unrhyw ddolen neu atodiad. This message originated outside your organisation. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.

Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thank you for your reply. However I have already followed your advice and still have not seen a verified dated copy of the final Definitive map which I understand your footpath department have used in 2022/23 for footpath changes in the Dolbenmaen area. We have been told the Definitive map was finalised in 1975 and printed in January 1976 - this is the map we would like to view please. Please advise where this map is located.

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth

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Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thank you but can you please let me have the email address to email (the mail detail just states mail)

Also can you please confirm that I will be shown the correct map (published 2/1/75) and not the map which was presented last time when I requested to see the Definitive Map at the offices you mention in your previous mail.

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth

Rhyddid Gwybodaeth, Gwynedd Council

Good afternoon,

Apologies that the email address is not coming though, it must be down to technical issues.

I have been provided with a telephone number for you - can you ring Dewi Owen on 01758 704091 for discussion and to make arrangements please.

Kind regards

Lisa Marie Williams
Cefnogaeth Gorfforaethol/Corporate Support

-----Neges Wreiddiol/Original Message-----
Oddi wrth: Dawn Duckworth <[FOI #1018462 email]>
Anfonwyd: Dydd Iau, 7 Medi 2023 14:11
At: Rhyddid Gwybodaeth <[Gwynedd Council request email]>
Pwnc: Re: Cais Rhyddid Gwybodaeth / FOI Request - 398

Rhybudd / Caution: Mae’r neges hon yn tarddu o du allan i’r sefydliad. Cymerwch bwyll wrth glicio unrhyw ddolen neu atodiad. This message originated outside your organisation. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.

Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thank you but can you please let me have the email address to email (the mail detail just states mail)

Also can you please confirm that I will be shown the correct map (published 2/1/75) and not the map which was presented last time when I requested to see the Definitive Map at the offices you mention in your previous mail.

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth

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Dear Rhyddid Gwybodaeth,

Thanks for your reply. I am sorry I cannot reach Mr Owen. Please could you check and advise me if the current Definitive Map for changes on the area I have previously given you is the map which was advertised in the London Gazette on 3/1/75

Yours sincerely,

Dawn Duckworth