Definitions and Clarity of Law Society and judges

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Dear The Law Society,

1. The police make an "Attestation" as follows
All UK Police Officers swear this "Attestation"

"I, .. .. of .. .. do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm
that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of
constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality,
upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to
all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the
peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against
people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said
office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all
the duties thereof faithfully according to law."

According to law dictionaries that the law society has created please let me know the following:

What is the definition of serve?
What is the definition of Queen?
What is the definition of Constable?
What is the definition of people?
What is the definition of discharge?
What is the definition of offences?
What is the definition of property?

2. Who do judges serve? please include all judges in all variations in all courts all jurisdictions?
Under what authority is someone a judge?
Who is that authority? Who gave them authority? who gave those who gave authority the authority to give authority?
If it is The Crown, which Crown are you referring to?
Is it The Crown Corporation and if so who are they?

3. What are the purposes of the bible in the court room?

4. Are Statutes and Acts by the consent of the governed?
What is the definition of the governed? in reference to these acts?
What is the definition of consent?
How is it possible to stand under and comply with the laws created by the law society if it is not possible to comprehend them due to them not being written in English?
If I am not a member of the law society then is it your understanding that I do not need to follow the laws created by the law society unless I consent and fully comprehend them?

5. Who is the highest court in the land and in the UK and in the law society?
Is parliament governed by the law society?
Is Albien still a jurisdiction?
What is the highest law? Who has the highest authority in Albien? England? UK?
Are International laws higher than domestic laws?

6. Why is the following law not being given due diligence and who is responsible for enforcing it?
1. Article 25.3(c) Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court which includes the phrase "including providing the means for the commission of the crime", the 'means' incorporates the money, materials, weapons and armed forces personnel needed to commit one or more of the 4 ICC crimes (genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and aggression).

2. Section 52 of The International Criminal Court Act 2001 or Section 2 of the International Criminal Court [Scotland] Act 2001. This legislation makes it a criminal offence in Britain to engage in "conduct ancillary to genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes and the legislation goes on to define ancillary conduct as behaviour which falls under The Accessories and Abettors Act 1861.

3. The Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal provides the relevant precedent in the section quoted in the article

" It was submitted [by the defendants] that international law is concerned with the action of sovereign states, and provides no punishment for individuals; and further, that where the act in question is an act of state, those who carry it out are not personally responsible, but are protected by the doctrine of the sovereignty of the State. In the opinion of the Tribunal, both these submissions must be rejected. That international law imposes duties and liabilities upon individuals as well as upon States has long been recognised…

The very essence of the Charter is that individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience imposed by the individual State. He who violates the laws of war cannot obtain immunity while acting in pursuance of the authority of the State, if the State in authorising action moves outside its competence under international law…”

Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal 1946

Yours faithfully,

emma gomez

Joao Curro, The Law Society

Dear Ms Gomez

 

Freedom of Information Request – Our Ref:
FOI/BS/1065                               

 

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1. The police make an "Attestation" as follows All UK Police Officers
swear this "Attestation"

 

"I, .. .. of .. .. do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I
will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with
fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental
human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will,
to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and
prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I
continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and
knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law."

 

According to law dictionaries that the law society has created please let
me know the following:

 

What is the definition of serve?

What is the definition of Queen?

What is the definition of Constable?

What is the definition of people?

What is the definition of discharge?

What is the definition of offences?

What is the definition of property?

 

2. Who do judges serve? please include all judges in all variations in all
courts all jurisdictions?

Under what authority is someone a judge?

Who is that authority? Who gave them authority? who gave those who gave
authority the authority to give authority?

If it is The Crown, which Crown are you referring to?

Is it The Crown Corporation and if so who are they?

 

3. What are the purposes of the bible in the court room?

 

4. Are Statutes and Acts by the consent of the governed?

What is the definition of the governed? in reference to these acts?

What is the definition of consent?

How is it possible to stand under and comply with the laws created by the
law society if it is not possible to comprehend them due to them not being
written in English?

If I am not a member of the law society then is it your understanding that
I do not need to follow the laws created by the law society unless I
consent and fully comprehend them?

 

5. Who is the highest court in the land and in the UK and in the law
society?

Is parliament governed by the law society?

Is Albien still a jurisdiction?

What is the highest law? Who has the highest authority in Albien? England?
UK?

Are International laws higher than domestic laws?

 

6. Why is the following law not being given due diligence and who is
responsible for enforcing it?

1. Article 25.3(c) Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court which
includes the phrase "including providing the means for the commission of
the crime", the 'means' incorporates the money, materials, weapons and
armed forces personnel needed to commit one or more of the 4 ICC crimes
(genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and aggression).

 

2. Section 52 of The International Criminal Court Act 2001 or Section 2 of
the International Criminal Court [Scotland] Act 2001. This legislation
makes it a criminal offence in Britain to engage in "conduct ancillary to
genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes and the legislation goes
on to define ancillary conduct as behaviour which falls under The
Accessories and Abettors Act 1861.

 

3. The Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal provides the relevant precedent in
the section quoted in the article

 

" It was submitted [by the defendants] that international law is concerned
with the action of sovereign states, and provides no punishment for
individuals; and further, that where the act in question is an act of
state, those who carry it out are not personally responsible, but are
protected by the doctrine of the sovereignty of the State. In the opinion
of the Tribunal, both these submissions must be rejected. That
international law imposes duties and liabilities upon individuals as well
as upon States has long been recognised…

 

The very essence of the Charter is that individuals have international
duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience imposed by
the individual State. He who violates the laws of war cannot obtain
immunity while acting in pursuance of the authority of the State, if the
State in authorising action moves outside its competence under
international law…”

 

Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal 1946

 

 

 

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I hope this information is of use and I am sorry I am unable to assist you
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Yours sincerely

 

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Dear Joao Curro,

Thank you for clarifying that the law society do not create law dictionaries. If the law society have not created the law dictionaries then please refer to legal dictionaries that the law society would use to answer my questions? Please also name the references you do use.

Yours sincerely,

emma gomez

Joao Curro, The Law Society

Dear Ms Gomez

 

Freedom of Information Request – Our Ref:
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I hope this information is of use and I am sorry I am unable to assist you
further on this occasion.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Joao Curro

Information Compliance Officer - Legal Services

The Law Society, 113 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1PL

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Dear Joao Curro,

Are you able to answer any of my questions? I have one more question that you might be able to answer to lead me in the right direction... Who writes the law?

Yours sincerely,

emma gomez

Joao Curro, The Law Society

Thank you for your email.

I am out of the office until 30 September 2013.

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Joao Curro
Information Compliance Officer - Legal Services
The Law Society, 113 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1PL
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Joao Curro, The Law Society

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Dear Ms Gomez

 

Thank you for your email.

 

The Law Society does not hold the requested information. I suggest you
seek independent legal advice from a qualified solicitor or contact your
local Citizens Advice Bureau. Alternatively, you may wish to request
assistance from your local Library.

 

I am sorry I am unable to assist you further on this occasion.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Joao Curro

Information Compliance Officer - Legal Services

The Law Society, 113 Chancery Lane, London WC2A 1PL

t: 020 7242 1222 (Ext 4539)

f: 020 7320 5685

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