De-registration of birth

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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Home Office, please provide or direct me to the documented process by which a birth may be de-registered within the United Kingdom.

Yours faithfully,

Pat James

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Hughes Selwyn,

Dear Pat James,
 
Thank you for your enquiry about de-registering a birth. We have taken
your request as official correspondence rather than under the provisions
of the Freedom of Information Act, but this has made no difference to the
content of our reply.
 
You asked what the procedure is for de-registering a birth.
 
Births in England and Wales are registered under the provisions of the
Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953. This provides that every birth
which occurs shall be registered in the district in which it takes place,
with the register held by the local register office and a copy provided
for the Registrar General.
 
The registration is simply a record of the event which has taken place.
There is no provision for a birth to be “de-registered”.
 
I hope this answers your enquiry.
 
With best wishes
 
Selwyn Hughes
Policy advisor
Civil Registration
 
Her Majesty's Passport Office, General Register Office
Room 03, Smedley Hydro, Trafalgar Road, Southport  PR8 2HH
E: [email address]
[1]www.gov.uk
 
 
 

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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Hughes Selwyn, your response does not answer my query, it avoids it. If something can be registered, by inference it can be de-registered.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Hughes Selwyn,

I am out of the office until Weds 16 December. If your query is urgent
please contact [email address] Thank you. 

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Hughes Selwyn,

Dear Pat James,

I'm sorry you were not happy with my response. I'm not trying to avoid the query : I was explaining that the legislation regarding the registration of a birth is about recording an event which has taken place. What the legislation is saying is that if a birth took place then it should be recorded in this way. I don't think that implies that the registration can be deleted or de-registered, but in any event the Births and Deaths Registration Act doesn't provide for that.

Best wishes

Selwyn Hughes
Policy advisor
Civil Registration

Her Majesty's Passport Office, General Register Office
Room 03, Smedley Hydro, Trafalgar Road, Southport PR8 2HH
E: [email address]
www.gov.uk

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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Hughes Selwyn, you obviously do not understand the legal meaning of registration, which is 'giving up title to'. All I am asking by de registration is to regain title to my being which was taken against my will at registration. Again I ask, how can this be achieved.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Hughes Selwyn,

Dear Pat James,

I think there are probably a number of definitions of "registration". These may include "recording", or "inserting in an official register", for example, which is more relevant to what happens at a birth registration. No specific definition is included in the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953 or associated regulations.

However, the point is that the registration of a birth is simply the recording of that event (the birth). It does not involve the taking away of any title.

Best wishes

Selwyn Hughes
Policy advisor
Civil Registration

Her Majesty's Passport Office, General Register Office
Room 03, Smedley Hydro, Trafalgar Road, Southport PR8 2HH
E: [email address]
www.gov.uk

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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Hughes Selwyn, please clarify your answer, is it fact or opinion. Your answer does not fit with legislation on the matter.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Hughes Selwyn,

Dear Pat James,

I've tried to provide a factual response whilst also reassuring that the registration of a birth does not involve the "giving up" of a title (which is also factual since no such reference appears to this in the legislation concerned).

However, let's get back to your original question: you asked us to direct you to the documented process whereby a birth may be de-registered. I can confirm that the Births and Deaths Registration Act does not provide for this. It would be for Parliament to decide whether they wished to amend the law to provide for such de-registration.

Regards

Selwyn Hughes
Policy advisor
Civil Registration

Her Majesty's Passport Office, General Register Office
Room 03, Smedley Hydro, Trafalgar Road, Southport PR8 2HH
E: [email address]
www.gov.uk

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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Hughes Selwyn, I urge you to research the legal definition of the act of registration prior to continuence of your false claims.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James