Data Subject Identity checks
To
Information Commissioner's Office
Subject
Freedom of Information request - Data Subject Identity checks
Dear Information Commissioner's Office,
The GDPR article 12 (6) states
"6. Without prejudice to Article 11, where the controller has reasonable doubts concerning the identity of the natural person making the request referred to in Articles 15 to 21, the controller may request the provision of additional information necessary to confirm the identity of the data subject."
The DPA 2018 section 94 (5)(a)(i) states
"(5)Where a controller—
(a)reasonably requires further information—
(i)in order that the controller be satisfied as to the identity of the individual making a request under subsection (1)"
Both pieces of legislation clearly state that it is only if a data controller has a reasonable doubts, or reasonably requires further information to establish that the requester is entitled to receive the information held that more identification documentation may be requested.
Unfortunately, lack of adequate and current guidance from the ICO means that Data Controllers are ignoring these portions of the legislation in favour of instituting an automatic demand for two forms of ID, one showing full name and DOB another showing name and current postal address irrespective of whether any reasonable belief or reasonable doubt actually exists.
These were, I believe, the standard requirements issued as a general guide when the DPA 1998 first came into being and whilst they will possibly identify the individual making the request, they will not identify that that individual is eligible to receive the records actually held unless the records held actually contain verified information which matches the ID requested.
Your guidance document here
https://ico.org.uk/media/for-organisatio...
States on Page 23 "Confirming the Requesters Identity" and ends on page 25 by commenting on sending by Fax Machine, which gives an idea of how out of date this information is.
Unfortunately your advice is not that clear and it fails at any point to specify what is accepted as "Reasonable" in regards to belief.
It does state "You can ask for enough information to judge whether the person making the request is the individual to whom the personal data relates" but unfortunately this is simply being ignored by every single data controller I have had the misfortune to deal with.
In my situation I have been in communication with Law Enforcement agencies via their formal complaints processes, all undertaken by telephone or email.
At the conclusion of those processes, the results of their "enquiries" have been returned to me by email, or in certain circumstances by post to a postal address supplied to them by me via email.
I have immediately replied by email submitting a SAR for all the information used by the organisations concerned in the production of the outcome report.
At which point the agencies concerned suddenly state a belief that I am not the data subject eligible to receive that information and they demand two forms of paper ID, originals not copies, to be sent by surface post.
One to show full name and DOB and one to show name and current postal address.
On each occasion I have asked the organisations for their "Reasonable Belief" that I am not the data subject, the organisations simply ignore those questions.
On each occasion I have asked the organisations to specify how the documents demanded can possibly identify that I am the data subject in relation to the information held, because all contact has been by email and telephone and there is no verified information in the records to show a full name and DOB and no verified postal address except in that they have already dispatched data to that address by post in the course of normal business.
I even have one police force informing me that a letter sent to my postal address by their deputy director of professional standards would not count as evidence of my postal address, they would need a utility bill instead.
In short these data controllers are using unreasonable and I believe unlawful id requests as a means to commit offences under section 173 of the DPA.
Please therefore address my request below.
1. Please confirm if there is any information held by the ICO which identifies or defines any "reasonable belief" or Reasonable doubt" issued as guidance or detailed in any ICO decision regarding the identification of a data subject and if so provide a copy of or a link to where that information may be found,
2. Please specify if there is any current or indeed more up to date guidance or information on what would constitute how to identify a data subject in relation to information held, especially where all communication within the "existing or ongoing relationship" between the data subject and the data controller has been undertaken by electronic communication only.
3. Please specify if there is any information or guidance held regarding any requirement that a Data Controller must identify the applicant only in relation to the records held rather than identifying the applicant as an individual without reference to the records at all.
4. Please specify if requesting ID information which cannot possibly identify the applicant in relation to the records held, or requested without any reasonable belief that the applicant was not entitled to receive the information, would constitute an offence under the GDPR or DPA and specify what the offence would be and how it could be investigated or prosecuted.
In cases where the organisation has been in regular communication with the data subject prior to a SAR being received, and the organisation refuses to comply maintaining that they do not reasonably believe the data subject is the person entitled to receive that information, 5. please specify any information held and or records available regarding ICO decisions where any data controller has subsequently had any sanction applied by the ICO for communicating information to an individual that they now claim they do not reasonable believe was entitled to receive it .
6. In cases where a data controller has refused to comply with a lawful SAR citing a reasonable belief that the person communicating is not entitled to receive that information until ID documentation is received, please specify whether the continued communication by that data controller in the course of normal business with that data subject on the matters concerned would constitute:
a. a breach of the DPA / GDPR in that the data controller is communicating personal information to a person they claim they have reason to believe is not entitled to receive that information. or
b. Proof of a section 173 offence in that the data controller is more than willing to continue communication in the course of normal business whilst falsely claiming a reasonable belief that they are communication with someone not lawfully eligible to receive that information.
Please provide copies of any information held or links to any guidance available which apply.
7. In cases where a data controller claims a reasonable belief that a data subject making an application is not eligible to receive that information please specify if there is any requirement whatsoever for a data controller to specify what any such reasonable belief is based upon and when that belief came to light.
8. please state any information held which details or explains any possible reason or justification why the ICO will not prosecute data controllers for section 173 offences on behalf of individual data subjects.
Yours faithfully,
W Hunter
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9 November 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
Further to your email of 16 October we can now provide a response to your
information request. We have handled your request under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 (the FOIA).
Request
In your email you asked for:
“ 1. Please confirm if there is any information held by the ICO which
identifies or defines any "reasonable belief" or Reasonable doubt" issued
as guidance or detailed in any ICO decision regarding the identification
of a data subject and if so provide a copyof or a link to where that
information may be found,
2. Please specify if there is any current or indeed more up to date
guidance or information on what would constitute how to identify a data
subject in relation to information held, especially where all
communication within the "existing or ongoing relationship"between the
data subject and the data controller has been undertaken by electronic
communication only.
3. Please specify if there is any information or guidance held regarding
any requirement that a Data Controller must identify the applicant only in
relation to the records held rather than identifying the applicant as an
individual without reference to therecords at all.
4. Please specify if requesting ID information which cannot possibly
identify the applicant in relation to the records held, or requested
without any reasonable belief that the applicant was not entitled to
receive the information, would constitute an offenceunder the GDPR or DPA
and specify what the offence would be and how it could be investigated or
prosecuted.
In cases where the organisation has been in regular communication with
the data subject prior to a SAR being received, and the organisation
refuses to comply maintaining that they do not reasonably believe the data
subject is the person entitled to receivethat information, 5. please
specify any information held and or records available regarding ICO
decisions where any data controller has subsequently had any sanction
applied by the ICO for communicating information to an individual that
they now claim theydo not reasonable believe was entitled to receive it .
6. In cases where a data controller has refused to comply with a lawful
SAR citing a reasonable belief that the person communicating is not
entitled to receive that information until ID documentation is received,
please specify whether the continued communicationby that data controller
in the course of normal business with that data subject on the matters
concerned would constitute:
a. a breach of the DPA / GDPR in that the data controller is
communicating personal information to a person they claim they have reason
to believe is not entitled to receive that information. or
b. Proof of a section 173 offence in that the data controller is more
than willing to continue communication in the course of normal business
whilst falsely claiming a reasonable belief that they are communication
with someone not lawfully eligible to receivethat information.
Please provide copies of any information held or links to any guidance
available which apply.
7. In cases where a data controller claims a reasonable belief that a
data subject making an application is not eligible to receive that
information please specify if there is any requirement whatsoever for a
data controller to specify what any such reasonablebelief is based upon
and when that belief came to light.
8. please state any information held which details or explains any
possible reason or justification why the ICO will not prosecute data
controllers for section 173 offences on behalf of individual data
subjects.”
Our response
Unfortunately we are not able to provide you with the information you have
requested. I will explain in more detail below why this is the case, but
in brief, section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) makes
clear that a public authority (such as the Information Commissioner’s
Office – the ICO) is not obliged to comply with an FOIA request if the
authority estimates that the cost of complying with the request would
exceed the ‘appropriate limit'. The ‘appropriate limit’ for the ICO, as
determined in the ‘Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate
Limit and Fees) Regulations 2004’ is £450. We have determined that £450
would equate to 18 hours work.
Whilst the information you have requested is likely to sit within our
electronic case management system, this system is not set up to easily
provide us with the type of information you have requested. Generally
speaking this is not the sort of information we would need for our own day
to day business purposes.
The system allows us to search for the cases we have dealt with in a
number of different ways, such as by the unique reference number the case
was given, the name and address of the person who contacted us and the
name of any organisation that has been complained about. We can also
search for cases on the basis of the broad nature or sector of the
complaint, but we can only search on a limited number of fixed criteria.
Unfortunately we are not able to search for cases that relate to the
identification of data subjects. In order to establish any relevant
decisions made or actions taken we would need to access all the cases on
our case management system and read the relevant documents.
There are thousands of cases on our case management system and the time
required to access them all would be well in excess of the 18 hours which
would accrue a charge of £450.
It is for this reason, and in accordance with section 12 of the FOIA, that
we are not obliged to comply with your request for information.
However, if you are able to narrow the scope of your request we may be in
a position to provide information to you free of charge, if it will cost
us less than the appropriate limit to do so.
For example, you can narrow the scope of the request to specific data
controllers or consider a time frame.
I should point out that any reformulated request you may wish to make to
the ICO will be treated as a new FOI request, and the 20 working day time
limit will begin again.
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Dear Mr Hay
Having read your response I am having difficulty establishing exactly how it refers to my request.
Of the 8 questions posed, only questions 1 and 5 requests information from specific case decisions.
Question 1 asks for any information issued as guidance or detailed in any decision in respect to "reasonable doubt" or "reasonable belief" .
One would tend to believe that the ICO would have a repository of ICO decision notices, not least because they appear to be accessible here https://icosearch.ico.org.uk/s/search.ht...
You appear to be stating however that nobody in your organisation can simply use the search feature to examine all the 9208 results for the words "reasonable belief" or "Reasonable doubt" without opening every single case and reading them manually? somehow I find that very difficult to believe.
Without any "cogent evidence" for what searches you can undertake or the methodology of how your system can be interrogated it is impossible for me to narrow my request to comply with your decision.
Please arrange for the person who is responsible for the storage of your decision notice information to contact me so I can discuss with them their actual capabilities with a view to narrowing the criteria using the search facilities they actually have available.
Question 5 would in essence be very similar to question 1 in that the data set in which this result would lie would be a sub set of the data set established for question 1.
It is however possibly a moot point because I was led to believe that the ICO has never issued a sanction in relation to an individual case, and never issued a sanction against any data controller refusing to comply with a lawful request whilst claiming the applicant was not identified because the ICO automatically ignores the actual requirement of both the GDPR and DPA to provide any "reasonable belief" or "reasonable doubt" regarding the data subject from the data controller.
Hence my FOIA request for the current and or more up to date guidance as I was foolishly hoping the ICO may have issued the information when the DPA 2018 and GDPR came into effect.
Regards
W Hunter
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
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25 November 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
Thank you for your correspondence dated 20 November.
This correspondence will now be treated as a request for an internal
review of the response we provided to your recent request for information
under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
We will aim to respond by 21 December which is 20 working days from the
day after we received your recent correspondence. This is in accordance
with our internal review procedures which were provided with our response.
Yours sincerely
Adrian Hay
Senior Information Access Officer, Risk and Governance Department
Corporate Strategy and Planning Directorate
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 03304146450 F. 01625 524510 ico.org.uk twitter.com/iconews
Please consider the environment before printing this email
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Dear Mr Hay,
I have requested contact with your organisations staff in order to clarify my request.
You have ignored my request in favour of instituting an internal review which I have not requested.
I will be requesting an internal review but only after receiving the information regarding how to clarify my original request which your organisation is allegedly required to provide to me under the DPA.
Kindly register this as a formal complaint regarding your actions and have your line manager contact me to discuss how your admin staff can actually interrogate your system in the most cost effective manner regarding my request.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
Our newsletter
You can [18]sign up to our monthly e-newsletter
Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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25 November 2020
Our reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
Thank you for your email of 25 November 2020.
Mr Hay has followed procedure in referring this matter for an information
review. If you have any further information you wish to add, or if you
wish to make a service complaint please feel free to send the details
through and I will investigate this.
Regards
Elizabeth Baxter
Group Manager
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 0330 313 1840 [1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
Please consider the environment before printing this email
For information about what we do with personal data see our privacy notice
at [3]www.ico.org.uk/privacy-notice.
Dear Ms Baxter
Please identify your position within the organisation, and where you are in the hierarchy in relation to Mr Hay.
Please also provide by return a copy of the "procedure" which allowed Mr Hay to ignore my request for clarification in relation to my original request which the DPA would appear to require the ICO to comply with, in favour of instigating an internal review without my issuing any such request.
The process Mr Hay is currently undertaking is not my internal review and I reserve the right to ask for an internal review after the ICO has clarified how to refine my original request and subsequently made an attempt to comply with that request as required under the DPA.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
Our newsletter
You can [18]sign up to our monthly e-newsletter
Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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26 November 2020
Our reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
I am Mr Hay's line manager and would usually undertake any investigation
into a service complaint or internal review. If you wish for me to pursue
either of these please let me know. If a requestor is unhappy with our
information response it is usual for us to undertake a review as Mr Hay
explained to you.
Regards
Elizabeth Baxter
Group Manager
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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at [3]www.ico.org.uk/privacy-notice.
Dear Ms Baxter
Again it would appear that you have chosen not to respond to my actual requests in favour of asking me to re iterate my requests a second time.
I have asked for contact with the staff responsible for your information storage to discuss how my original request could be refined to fall within the alleged cost parameters in light of Mr Hay's assertion that the only way to locate the information is a manual examination by individual staff thereby exceeding the time limit for a FOIA request.
As yet despite a further 6 days elapsing, no member of your organisation has contacted me to address the issue of refining my original request.
Mr Hay claims a computerised search of the ICO decisions is simply not possible and if the ICO cannot search within it's own computerised records without manually opening and reading them on an individual basis I would have to say you need to employ someone competent urgently.
Having chosen to ignore my request for clarification to refine my FOIA request Mr Hay then decides to undertake an internal review of his own whilst trying to misidentify the review as being of my instigation.
I then requested that his actions be the subject of a formal complaint.
Rather than record or investigate my formal complaint, it would appear that you, as Mr Hay's line manager simply stated that he was following "procedure" before asking me to send through the details if I wish to make a service complaint, again choosing to disregard the formal complaint already made.
My request to you, that you "Please also provide by return a copy of the "procedure" which allowed Mr Hay to ignore my request for clarification in relation to my original request which the DPA would appear to require the ICO to comply with, in favour of instigating an internal review without my issuing any such request." has resulted in no information being provided regarding this alleged "procedure" and a further reiteration of you asking me to make a service complaint which has already been made.
Ms Baxter, Kindly arrange for your IT staff responsible for your database system which includes the decision notice information referred to previously, to contact me so we can discuss their capabilities to interrogate the information held in the most time and cost effective manner to comply with my original request.
Please record the formal service complaint previously made and provide a copy of the alleged procedure as requested along with a copy of your complaints investigation policy / procedure.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
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Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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26 November 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
I will ask that Mr Hay contact you regarding your original request. To be
clear and in order to manage your expectations it would not be within the
remit of the Information Access team to write a request for you or to
refine your original request.
I will await your correspondence with Mr Hay.
Yours sincerely,
Elizabeth Baxter
Group Manager
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 0330 313 1840 [1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
Please consider the environment before printing this email
For information about what we do with personal data see our privacy notice
at [3]www.ico.org.uk/privacy-notice.
30 November 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
I write in response to your emails of 20 and 25 November.
Because points 1 and 5 of your original request are so specific it is
difficult to advise how you may consider changing it. Unfortunately we
cannot facilitate direct contact with our IT department as this is not a
service we provide.
Some of your questions can be answered by visiting our website. Our
regulatory action policy for example explains when we may consider a
prosecution:
[1]https://ico.org.uk/media/about-the-ico/d...
We have also provided some advice for data controllers regarding
requesting identification.
[2]https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/gui...
Lastly, in your email of 25 November you asked about our policies and
procedures and why your email of 20 November has been treated as a request
for review.
In your email you clearly indicated that you were not satisfied with the
response to your information request and wanted to make a complaint. We
considered the most appropriate approach was to have the response reviewed
by another member of the team.
Our policy and procedures are published on our website. Please visit:
[3]https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/our-inf...
You may find it informative to read our service guide at:
[4]https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/our-inf...
Also our request handling procedure can be found at:
[5]https://ico.org.uk/media/about-the-ico/p...
I hope the above information is of assistance and I can confirm that you
will receive a response to your complaint in due course.
Yours sincerely
Adrian Hay
Senior Information Access Officer, Risk and Governance Department
Corporate Strategy and Planning Directorate
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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5. https://ico.org.uk/media/about-the-ico/p...
6. https://ico.org.uk/global/privacy-notice/
Dear Mr Hay,
The reason I have been asking to speak directly to your IT staff is because you could not provide any "cogent evidence" for what searches you can undertake or the methodology of how your system can be interrogated other than to manually open each request.
Since you will not allow me to discuss the matter with your it department then I'm very much afraid that you must discuss it with them and establish what they can actually do to interrogate the data to provide a response within the time and cost restraints that apply.
I would also point out that on the 25th November I registered a formal complaint which has not apparently been recorded or actioned, and also requested a copy of the "procedure" which allowed you to ignore my request for clarification in relation to my original request which Ms Baxter referred to, which has still not been provided.
On the 26th November I had to again request, Please record the formal service complaint previously made and provide a copy of the alleged procedure as requested along with a copy of your complaints investigation policy / procedure.
Ms Baxters response of the same day ignores my repeated requests and instead responds with a non sequitur statement that "it would not be within the remit of the Information Access team to write a request for you or to refine your original request. " when no such actions had been requested.
All I have ever requested is that someone competent in the use of your IT systems and the data sets stored within them, identify if and how those datasets can be interrogated electronically to provide a response to my FOIA request.
Your latest response , again ignoring the substantive requests made previously, includes links to multiple policies on the ICO website which do not address my original FOIA request which is the very reason I was compelled to make it in the first place.
Your online policies are outdated and do not, insofar as I have been able to find, provide any specific advice or guidance whilst your procedures ignore the issue in favour of supporting what I consider to be unlawful actions by the data controllers in every case.
You have failed at any point to specify where within any of those policies you have linked to, actual information that you have relied upon is to be found.
Kindly provide the information requested and if that is beyond your and Ms Baxters capabilities then please register a second formal complaint regarding your failure to provide information and assistance regarding any cogent evidence of what your IT systems can and cannot provide from your records in this matter.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
Our newsletter
You can [18]sign up to our monthly e-newsletter
Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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1 December 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
Thank you for your email of 1 December 2020.
I have received your service complaint and will respond to it separately
as you have requested. I will also provide a copy of said "procedure".
Mr Hay has advised you it is not our remit to write a new information
request for you as have I. We have however given you further information
in the interests of being helpful and providing additional assistance. We
do not offer a service to members of the public whereby they contact our
IT department but I can concur with Mr Hay's advice regarding our ability
to interrogate our system and his advice as per above.
I will return to you on your service complaint but hope the above
clarifies what our service is and isn't able to offer.
Yours sincerely,
Elizabeth Baxter
Group Manager
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 0330 313 1840 [1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
Please consider the environment before printing this email
For information about what we do with personal data see our privacy notice
at [3]www.ico.org.uk/privacy-notice.
Dear Ms Baxter,
I have telephoned you on two separate occasions asking you to discuss this matter with me but you appear intent on continuing this discourse via this public medium.
It appears obvious from your response that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of the problem in that you have again repeated your assertion that "it is not our remit to write a new information
request for you" when that has never been requested by me at all.
What I believe you are required to do is advise on how my request can be reduced in scope to comply with the financial and temporal requirements specified.
Having worked with computerised databases in my life I am familiar with the fact that end users of the system, like yourself and Mr Hay, can only access the information via the user interfaces provided, however your IT department, who build and maintain the system behind your user interface, can very quickly and easily interrogate the underlying data sets and obtain significant information without opening every single case manually.
Since your IT staff are employees of your organisation it is within the remit of law that they can be asked to obtain the relevant information on your behalf where you normal user staff cannot.
It is therefore your responsibility to make the enquiries of the relevant IT staff and have them provide an explanation as to what they can and cannot reasonably do to facilitate the retrieval of information in relation to my original request.
You can then inform me of their capabilities and I can then re write my FOIA request in light of that information so the data becomes accessible within the limits set.
The FOIA requires that the data controller provide the information and it is simply not acceptable to respond in essence by saying that the information is in a format that our usual staff cannot access and the staff that can access it simply don't do that.
All of your staff work for the data controller and it should be self evident that the staff most able to undertake the work be assigned to undertake it in the most cost and time effective manner to comply with the requirements of law.
If this is still an issue then please have your line manager contact me to discuss it further.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
Our newsletter
You can [18]sign up to our monthly e-newsletter
Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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11 December 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter
Please find attached my response to your information review
request/complaint.
Yours sincerely,
Elizabeth Baxter
Group Manager
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 0330 313 1840 [1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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at [3]www.ico.org.uk/privacy-notice.
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Dear Ms Baxter,
It has become abundantly clear that you have chosen to ignore my communication and carried on regardless with your internal review which I had not requested.
You have also apparently failed to make any enquiries of your IT department to establish if they can search your existing databases using their levels of access to the underlying datasets, whilst failing to provide any useful information on how the scope of my original request could be narrowed effectively.
By refusing to even make the effort to facilitate communication between your IT department and myself via your office I believe you have breached the requirements placed upon you by the ICO and committed an offence under section 77 of the FOIA.
To that end, please specify which computer systems / software are used by your IT staff to store and allow access to the records held by the ICO to include the computer language used and the names of any software package along with the manufacturer details.
With that information I can approach the manufacturer of those products and obtain evidence of how easily the underlying datasets can be interrogated at significantly reduced costs at which point I will request my internal review with the evidence to support the section 77 allegation against you and your staff.
The review procedure you specified here https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/6... does not contain any reference whatsoever to the ICO staff initiating a review and it repeatedly specifies that only an applicant for information can make that request.
Your internal review is therefore a breach of ICO policy and I would request that you register this as a formal complaint regarding your actions yet again.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
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that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
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a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
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we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
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ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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16 December 2020
Case Reference: IC-66205-C9J2
Dear W Hunter,
Your request for information about computer systems/software used by the
ICO’s IT staff will be treated as a new request. We will be in contact
with you regarding this request within 20 working days.
You have had our final response in relation to your information request
handled as IC-66205-C9J2. The options available to you in relation to
pursuing a complaint via the regulator have been provided to you in our
earlier correspondence.
If you wish to make a complaint about our service, or raise an allegation
about a breach of the FOIA, you can do this via our [1]website. We do not
deal with complaints or other such issues via WDTK, the purpose of which
is only to enable members of the public to make information requests to
public authorities.
Any further contact from you via this forum on issues we have already
considered will be noted but not necessarily responded to.
Yours sincerely,
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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15 January 2021
Case Reference: IC-80993-Q9J7
Dear W Hunter,
Please find attached our response to your information request of 15
December 2020.
Yours sincerely,
Shannon Keith
Senior Information Access Officer
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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Dear Ms Keith,
Your response, whilst appreciated is in essence meaningless as you have not identified anything.
My request "please specify which computer systems / software are used by your IT staff to store and allow access to the records held by the ICO to include the computer language used and the names of any software package along with the manufacturer details."
You have provided the list shown below, which whilst it has the words " system or software used manufacturer computer language used" in the top two lines, it then has a list of words underneath with no way to establish which word applies to which category except by inference.
System or software used Manufacturer
Computer language used
Microsoft Dynamics CRM
Microsoft
Not held – commercially
procured software
Microsoft SharePoint
Microsoft
Not held – commercially
procured software
Mhance
Microsoft
Not held – commercially
procured software
Crimson
WPC Software Ltd Not held – commercially
procured software
CIPHR HR system
CIPHR
Not held – commercially
procured software
I know Microsoft is a software company, and a google search for Microsoft Dynamics CRM results in a result from Wikipedia stating "Microsoft Dynamics CRM is a customer relationship management software package developed by Microsoft." it does not however detail what the package consists of or which portions of it if any are used to store and or access the data held by the ICO.
In particular reference to where any information regarding DPA and GDPR information is stored and in which format the files regarding this information is held.
I was expecting to be told which infrastructure system you use, i.e. Cisco or other manufacturer server or storage device and the model number.
The name of the computer language used for that storage system and the software package used to enter and control the information to allow access within the overall system along with the computer language used.
A response received from the ICO again claimed that the information I was requesting was in the public domain and searchable via the ICO website, unfortunately this is not correct as the publicly searchable information available is not in respect to the GDPR or DPA records.
Please clarify the response that you did provide and if you now believe it has not actually responded to my request then re issue a corrected response to me .
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
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I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
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Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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34. https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlo...
22 January 2021
Case Reference: IC-80993-Q9J7
Dear W Hunter,
If you feel that I have not responded fully to your request for
information, or have otherwise applied the legislation incorrectly, you
are entitled to seek an internal review. Please advise me if this is the
case.
If you are seeking access to recorded information not covered by your
request of 15 December 2020 I would recommend you submit a new information
request.
Yours sincerely,
Shannon Keith
Senior Information Access Officer
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
[1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
For information about what we do with personal data see our privacy notice
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Dear Ms Keith
I have asked for clarification of your response, are you refusing to identify which words apply to which category in relation to what you have disclosed?
If so please state that fact to me and I will request an internal review and submit a formal complaint regarding your actions.
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
Our newsletter
You can [18]sign up to our monthly e-newsletter
Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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22 January 2021
Our reference: IC-80993-Q9J7
Dear W Hunter,
I have provided you with the recorded information we hold relevant to your
request - in this instance the commercially procured software used by the
ICO to store and retrieve information we hold.
If you are unhappy with this response, you have been advised of the
options available to you.
Yours sincerely
Shannon Keith
Senior Information Access Officer
Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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Dear ICO Casework,
I am writing to request an internal review of the response issued by Ms Keith.
She claims to have responded to my request "please specify which computer systems / software are used by your IT staff to store and allow access to the records held by the ICO to include the computer language used and the names of any software package along with the manufacturer details." by producing a column of words which are not attributable to any category within my original request.
Whilst it is clear some are names of software there is no way to establish any computer system, no way to establish which system and software sis used to facilitate the access and manage the records held, no discernable computer language and no clarification regarding any named software package and the manufacturer of that package.
As such I feel that the response has not complied with the requirements of the FOIA.
In addition my request for clarification has resulted in a breach of section 16 of the FOIA
"(1)It shall be the duty of a public authority to provide advice and assistance, so far as it would be reasonable to expect the authority to do so, to persons who propose to make, or have made, requests for information to it."
My two requests for clarification from Ms Keith resulted in her simply refusing to respond other than to demand I submit a review request if I was not satisfied with her initial reply.
She has therefore failed to provide any advice or assistance in relation to the FOIA response she provided in breach of the requirements under the act.
Please register a formal complaint regarding her actions along with this review request.
Regards
W Hunter
Yours sincerely,
W Hunter
To read this email in English click [1]here
I darllen yr ebost yn y Gymraeg, cliciwch [2]yma
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence. During the Coronavirus
pandemic, please see our [3]website for updates on the service you can
expect from us during this time. You can also call us on 0303 123 1113 or
contact us via live chat.
If you have asked us for advice - we will respond within 14 days. While
you wait, you should regularly check our [4]website for relevant
guidance, as we are updating this all the time. You should also read our
[5]GDPR myth busting blogs. If you have raised a question that we have
answered on our website, we may respond by sending you a link to it. But
we will do our best to provide you with the information you need.
If you have made a new complaint - we’re unlikely to look into it unless
you have raised it with the [6]responsible organisation (for a data
protection complaint) or the [7]responsible public authority (for a
freedom of information complaint) first. Please make sure you have sent
us a copy of their final response to you. We will assign your complaint to
a case officer as soon as we can, and they will contact you in due
course.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer. If you believe
we have either failed to take appropriate steps to respond to your data
protection complaint, or we do not provide you with information about the
progress or outcome of your complaint within the next three months, you
may be able to apply to the [8]First-tier Tribunal to require us to
respond to your complaint or to provide you with information about its
progress.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a personal data
breach under the GDPR or the Data Protection Act 2018 - we aim to contact
you within seven days to confirm receipt and to provide you with a case
reference number. If you want advice urgently, you should telephone our
helpline on 0303 123 1113. If we consider the incident is minor or you
have indicated that you do not consider it meets the threshold for
reporting, you may not receive a response from us, or we may respond by
sending you a link to the relevant part of our guidance. You can find out
more about [9]data breach reporting on our website.
Where a significant cyber incident occurs, you may also need to report
this to the National Cyber Security Centre (the NCSC). To help you decide,
you should read the NCSC’s guidance about their role and the type of
incidents that you should consider reporting.
Incidents that might lead to a heightened risk of individuals being
affected by fraud, should be reported to Action Fraud – the UK’s national
fraud and cybercrime reporting centre. If your organisation is in
Scotland, then reports should be made to Police Scotland.
If you are a Communications Service Provider reporting a security breach
under the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations – you will
need to report the security breach via this [10]secure portal.
If you represent an organisation and are reporting a potential incident
under the NIS Directive - we will contact you as soon as we can. You can
find out more about the [11]NIS Regulations on our website.
If you represent an organisation and you are reporting a security breach
within the definition of the eIDAS regulation – we will contact you as
soon as we can. You can find out more about the [12]eIDAS regulation on
our website.
If you have reported spam email – we are unlikely to need to contact you
again, unless we need more information to help with our investigations. We
publish details about the [13]action we've taken on nuisance messages on
our website.
If you have asked for information you think we might hold - we will
contact you if we need any more information to help us respond. Otherwise,
we will respond within our [14]public and statutory service levels.
If you have only copied your correspondence to us - we will not respond.
There is more information on our [15]service standards and what to expect
webpage. You can also call 0303 123 1113. We welcome calls in Welsh on
0330 414 6421. You can also contact us on [16]live chat.
For information about what we do with personal data please see our
[17]privacy notice.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
Our newsletter
You can [18]sign up to our monthly e-newsletter
Pwnc: Mae’ch neges ebost wedi dod i law
Diolch yn fawr ichi am gysylltu â Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth. Yn
ystod y pandemig Coronafeirws, gweler [19]ein gwefan am ddiweddariadau ar
y gwasanaeth sydd ar gael i’r cyhoedd ar hyn o bryd. Hefyd, mae’n bosib
ein ffonio ar 0303 123 1113, neu gysylltu â ni trwy sgwrs fyw.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am gyngor – byddwn yn ymateb o fewn 14 diwrnod. Tra
byddwch yn aros, dylech edrych yn rheolaidd ar ein [20]gwefan i chwilio am
ganllawiau perthnasol, gan eu bod yn cael eu diweddaru drwy’r amser. Hefyd
dylech ddarllen ein [21]blogiau ynghylch mythau’r GDPR. Os ydych wedi codi
cwestiwn sydd wedi’i ateb ar ein gwefan, mae’n bosibl y byddwn yn ymateb
drwy anfon dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r ateb. Ond fe wnawn ein gorau glas i
roi’r wybodaeth angenrheidiol ichi
Os ydych wedi gwneud cwyn newydd – dydyn ni ddim yn debygol o edrych i
mewn iddo oni bai eich bod wedi’i godi’n gyntaf gyda’r [22]sefydliad
cyfrifol (cwyn am ddiogelu data) neu’r [23]awdurdod cyhoeddus cyfrifol
(cwyn am ryddid gwybodaeth). Gofalwch eich bod wedi anfon copi aton ni o’u
hymateb terfynol ichi. Byddwn yn rhoi’ch achos i swyddog achosion cyn
gynted ag y gallwn, a bydd y swyddog yn cysylltu â chi maes o law.
Os yw’ch gohebiaeth yn ymwneud ag achos sydd eisoes yn bod - byddwn yn ei
hychwanegu at eich achos ac fe gaiff ei hystyried ar ôl cael ei dyrannu i
swyddog achosion. Os ydych yn credu ein bod ni naill ai wedi methu cymryd
camau priodol i ymateb i'ch cwyn diogelu data, neu heb ddarparu gwybodaeth
ichi am gynnydd neu ganlyniad eich cwyn o fewn y tri mis nesaf, efallai y
byddwch yn gallu gwneud cais i'r [24]Tribiwnlys Haen Gyntaf i’w gwneud yn
ofynnol inni ymateb i'ch cwyn neu ddarparu gwybodaeth ichi am gynnydd eich
cwyn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am drosedd data
personol o dan y GDPR neu Ddeddf Diogelu Data 2018 – rydym yn anelu at
gysylltu â chi o fewn saith niwrnod calendr i gadarnhau bod eich neges
wedi dod i law ac i roi rhif cyfeirnod achos ichi. Os oes arnoch eisiau
cyngor ar frys, dylech ffonio’n llinell gymorth ar 0303 123 1113. Os ydym
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn un mân neu os ydych chi wedi nodi nad ydych
o’r farn bod y digwyddiad yn cyrraedd y trothwy i roi gwybod amdano, mae’n
bosibl na chewch ymateb gennym, neu efallai y byddwn yn ymateb drwy anfon
dolen atoch i gysylltu â’r rhan berthnasol o'n canllawiau. Cewch ragor o
wybodaeth am [25]roi gwybod am droseddau data ar ein gwefan.
Pan fo digwyddiad seibr arwyddocaol yn digwydd, mae’n bosibl y bydd angen
ichi roi gwybod amdano hefyd i’r Ganolfan Seiberddiogelwch Genedlaethol
(yr NCSC). I’ch helpu i benderfynu, dylech ddarllen canllawiau’r NCSC ar
eu rôl a’r math o ddigwyddiadau y dylech ystyried rhoi gwybod amdanyn nhw.
Dylai digwyddiadau a allai arwain at risg uwch y bydd twyll yn effeithio
ar unigolion gael eu cyfleu i Action Fraud – sef canolfan genedlaethol y
Deyrnas Unedig ar gyfer rhoi gwybod am dwyll a seiberdroseddau. Os yw eich
sefydliad yn yr Alban, yna i Heddlu’r Alban y dylech chi roi gwybod.
Os ydych yn Ddarparwr Gwasanaethau Cyfathrebu sy’n rhoi gwybod am dor
diogelwch o dan y Rheoliadau Preifatrwydd a Chyfathrebu Electronig – bydd
angen ichi roi gwybod am y tor diogelwch drwy’r [26]porth diogel hwn.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am ddigwyddiad
posibl o dan Gyfarwyddeb yr NIS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted ag y
gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [27]Reoliadau’r NIS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych yn cynrychioli sefydliad a’ch bod yn rhoi gwybod am dor diogelwch
o fewn y diffiniad yn Rheoliad eIDAS – byddwn yn cysylltu â chi cyn gynted
ag y gallwn. Cewch ragor o wybodaeth am [28]Reoliad eIDAS ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi rhoi gwybod am ebost sbam – mae’n annhebygol y bydd angen
inni gysylltu â chi eto, oni bai bod arnon ni angen rhagor o wybodaeth i
helpu yn ein hymchwiliad. Rydym yn cyhoeddi gwybodaeth am [29]y camau
rydyn ni wedi’u cymryd ynghylch negeseuon niwsans ar ein gwefan.
Os ydych wedi gofyn am wybodaeth yr ydych yn credu ei bod gennyn ni –
byddwn yn cysylltu â chi os bydd arnom angen rhagor o wybodaeth i’n helpu
i ymateb. Fel arall, byddwn yn ymateb ichi o fewn ein [30]lefelau
gwasanaeth statudol a chyhoeddus.
Os ydych wedi anfon copi o’ch gohebiaeth aton ni ond dim byd arall –
fyddwn ni ddim yn ymateb.
Mae rhagor o wybodaeth ar ein tudalen gwe [31]safonau gwasanaeth a beth
i’w ddisgwyl. Gallwch ffonio hefyd ar 0330 414 6421, neu yn Saesneg ar
0303 123 1113. Gallwch gysylltu â ni hefyd i gael [32]sgwrs fyw.
I gael gwybodaeth am yr hyn rydyn ni’n ei wneud â data personol, gweler
ein [33]hysbysiad preifatrwydd.
Yn gywir
Swyddfa’r Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth
Ein cylchlythyr
Gallwch [34]gofrestru i gael ein e-gylchlythyr misol
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25 January 2021
Our reference: IC-80993-Q9J7
Dear W Hunter,
We will now progress an internal review of our response to your
information request.
We will aim to respond in full by 19 February 2021. This is 20 working
days from the date we received your request for internal review. If, for
any reason, we cannot respond by this date we will let you know and tell
you when you can expect a response.
If you intend to submit a service complaint, you will need to do this via
our [1]website. We do not respond to complaints of this nature via WDTK.
Yours sincerely,
Shannon Keith
Senior Information Access Officer
Information Commissioner's Office
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19 February 2021
Case Reference: IC-80993-Q9J7
Dear W Hunter
Thank you for your email of 21 January 2021 in which you requested an
internal review of our response to your information request. Please find
our response attached.
Yours sincerely,
Ian Goddard
Information Access Service Manager
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 0330 414 6823 [1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
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25 February 2021
Case Reference: IC-80993-Q9J7
Dear W Hunter
I am in receipt of your two recent voicemails. However, I would ask that
you communicate any questions you may have regarding my response in
writing, in order to avoid any misunderstandings about what it is you
require, and so that I can reply as fully as possible.
Yours sincerely,
Ian Goddard
Information Access Service Manager
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
T. 0330 414 6823 [1]ico.org.uk [2]twitter.com/iconews
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