Dalton Street Lease - Adult Services Involvement

Paul Byers made this Freedom of Information request to Cardiff Council

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Dear Cardiff Council,

In your last response to a previous FOI request (FOI 2493), you mention that the council's Adult Services will be involved when the next lease is determined. This seems to me to be an out-of-the-ordinary arrangement when considering the council's property portfolio as a whole and doesn't seem to be reflected in the current lease, which you have confirmed is the only relevant document.

Does any other material exists to explain the background behind this particular aspect of the leasing process?

Yours faithfully,

Paul Byers

FOI, Cardiff Council

Dear Mr Byers

Thank you for your request for information dated 11th December 2012.

We can advise that further to the previous response issued in respect of
your internal review, FOI_02493, the Council has confirmed that it holds
no recorded information in respect of this request.

We have however again asked officers in respect of this and they have
confirmed that the Council and probably the majority of other Councils
within Wales have properties that are vested with different service
areas within their authorities. This particular property happens to be
vested with Adult Services and therefore the Strategic Estates
Department would consult with this service area prior to granting a new

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Information & Improvement Team
Gwella a Gwybodaeth
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Dear FOI,

Thank you for your reply.

Before thinking about what we should do next, can I just ask for a quick clarification and a couple of confirmations?

Can you explain:

1. 'vested with Adult Services' - can you explain what is meant by this, and how this has been affected by the re-organisations that have taken place in local government in Cardiff over the last period?

Can you confirm:

1. that, although you are sure that the property is 'vested in Adult Services', there are no records of how, why or when this came about, or of any considerations of how the property might be used?

2. that the fact that it is 'vested in Adult Services' has not led, or is not likely to lead, to any special conditions being applied to the choice of leaseholders that are not already in the public domain through your responses to my FOI requests.

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

Dear FOI,

As you can see, it's been a while since I asked for some clarification and confirmations.

Are you in a position now to respond?

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers

Dear FOI,

Can you confirm that the document you have attached to another of my FOI requests - "Dalton Street Centre - Leasing Arrangements" is your response to my follow-up questions in this one?

Yours sincerely,

Paul Byers