Credit agreement T&C with an appointed representative

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Dear The Financial Conduct Authority,

Where a contract exists between an unregulated lender and individual but the unregulated lender is an authorised representative of a regulated firm, should the said contract include information about that buisness status ensuring the consumer is aware of their position.

At the header of the contract should the the word "unregulated agreement" be used if it is not the case?

Within the terms of the contract should details of the authorised representative s position be included along with details of their complaints proceedure if that company is overseen by a regulated firm?

Finally but most importantly, where a consumer is unsure about their own contract with an unregulated lender (but is an appointed representative as above) would the FCA be responsible for determining the status of that contract if the consumer was left unsure by the lack of details within?

In addition could you please advise me , where a secured agreement is unregulated by the FCA, would the consumer have an alternative avenue to turn down to obtain protection from unauthorised firms carrying out activities thought to be unfair? Other than the FOS?

Please include an inclusive list of regulatory bodies that could be relevent in any lending situation. For example, yourselves,
FCA (replacing the role of the FSA and OFT)
FOS
FOI
SRA
CCA

Thankyou for your assistance, I look forward to receiving your reply.

Yours faithfully,

Victoria Dixon

The Financial Conduct Authority

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Customer Contact Centre, The Financial Conduct Authority

Dear Victoria,

 

Thanks for your email to the Financial Conduct Authority’s (FCA) Freedom
of Information team on 30 April 2016. As yours is a general query rather
than a request for information we hold, this is not being treated as a
request under the Freedom of Information Act. As such, it’s been passed to
me in the contact centre to respond to.

 

Unregulated agreements

 

I understand that you’re looking to find out what information should be
provided to consumers entering in to an ‘unregulated agreement’ with a
firm that is an [1]appointed representative of an FCA-authorised firm.

 

If you’re borrowing money under an agreement which is not a [2]regulated
credit agreement or a [3]regulated mortgage contract, this is outside of
our remit. It’s not possible for a firm to be an appointed representative
of an authorised firm in relation to unregulated business, so the firm
wouldn’t have to follow our rules. However, we’d expect them to make it
clear which activities they’re carrying out aren’t regulated by the FCA.

 

What we do

 

Our role is to make sure that firms carrying out regulated activities are
following our rules and treating their customers fairly. It’s not our
place to become involved with individual disputes between consumers and
firms, so we wouldn’t be responsible for determining the status of a
contract when the consumer is unclear due to a lack of details in the
agreement. In this case, you may wish to seek independent legal guidance
to help you interpret the legality of the contract. As a first step, you
can [4]speak to Citizens Advice to find out if this is something they can
help you with.

 

Other regulators

 

The FCA is the only regulatory body that supervises the conduct of firms
entering into regulated credit agreements as lender. If the lender is a
bank or building society, the prudential aspect of their business will be
overseen by the [5]Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA).

 

The [6]Financial Ombudsman Service is an organisation that’s in place to
settle disputes between consumers and regulated firms, but they don’t have
powers to reprimand firms for poor behaviour.

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

Jennie Hubbard (Miss)

Associate | Customer Contact Centre

Financial Conduct Authority | [7]www.fca.org.uk

Consumer Helpline: 0800 111 6768

 

Victoria, to help improve our service, I’m interested in finding out about
your experience with the Contact Centre. I’ll send you a link to a short
survey and I’d appreciate it if you could take a few moments to share your
feedback about the service you've received from me.

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Dear Victoria Dixon,

At the FCA we’re always looking at ways to add value to the service
we deliver.

You were recently in touch with a member of our team and I’d like
your feedback. The survey will only take a few minutes to complete.

Please click [1]here to complete the survey. 

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Jo-Anne Ruggieri

Contact Centre Manager

Financial Conduct Authority

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Dear FCA,

Thankyou for your reply.

However once again I do feel that the information I am asking for has been witheld and avoided.

I emailed the FCA directly prior to using this site.
Allow me to provide a relevent part of the reply from the FCA regarding this....

-the power to get involved in individual complaints (that’s the role of the financial ombudsman service) however we do act to protect the interest of customers as a whole.

I thought you should be aware that Lancashire Mortgage Corporation(LMC) is authorised by us as an appointed representative of Cheshire Mortgage Corporation Limited (CMC). We supervise CMC to ensure they follow our rules and treat consumers fairly. CMC is responsible for the conduct of LMC and we do have the power to take action against them if they failed to carry out due diligence checks........ continued

Therefore, in the interest of consumers dealing with firms set up in a similar way could you please consider again...

With regards to Lancashire Mortgage Corporation and their principle Cheshire Mortgage Corporation.

Can you provide to me the agreement and terms that a lender acting as an appointed representative introducer for a regulated company would enter into with either the FCA or their principle allowing that position to be held.

Also, with regards to lending. What is the actual law for anybody to lend funds to another person if the lender has no licence or authorisation to continue doing such from a relevant authoriseation.
With regards to Loan Sharks, how is this term defined within the FCA?

I understand your role is to protect the consumer.

I am a consumer. You advised I seek legal assistance. I should not have to if alls I want to know is what agreement I have. The rules and regulations aught to be simple enough for consumers to determine that question alone but it seems to be set up in a way which prevents consumers from getting anywhere with any help from the FCA.

I simply would like to know what is needed to become a lender or can anybody do it regardless of authority?

This is not a request for you do deal with a personal matter let me make this clear.
It is a request for information about the FCA and their role?
I have tried direct contact but again I was avoided and I chose this method instead.

My query is simple. I do believe it is being avoided. I do believe by doing such you are protecting the lender who you have already investigated and aught to be able to answer my questions without hesitation.

The reply from the FCA clearly says..... "authorised by us" ?

I await your reply and trust that my concern will be addressed appropriately as I am today involving my MP.

Regards

VICTORIA Dixon

Dear The Financial Conduct Authority,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of The Financial Conduct Authority's handling of my FOI request 'Credit agreement T&C with an appointed representative'.

Dear FCA,

Thankyou for your reply.

However once again I do feel that the information I am asking for has been witheld and avoided.

I emailed the FCA directly prior to using this site.
Allow me to provide a relevent part of the reply from the FCA regarding this....

-the power to get involved in individual complaints (that’s the role of the financial ombudsman service) however we do act to protect the interest of customers as a whole.

I thought you should be aware that Lancashire Mortgage Corporation(LMC) is authorised by us as an appointed representative of Cheshire Mortgage Corporation Limited (CMC). We supervise CMC to ensure they follow our rules and treat consumers fairly. CMC is responsible for the conduct of LMC and we do have the power to take action against them if they failed to carry out due diligence checks........ continued

Therefore, in the interest of consumers dealing with firms set up in a similar way could you please consider again...

With regards to Lancashire Mortgage Corporation and their principle Cheshire Mortgage Corporation.

Can you provide to me the agreement and terms that a lender acting as an appointed representative introducer for a regulated company would enter into with either the FCA or their principle allowing that position to be held.

Also, with regards to lending. What is the actual law for anybody to lend funds to another person if the lender has no licence or authorisation to continue doing such from a relevant authoriseation.
With regards to Loan Sharks, how is this term defined within the FCA?

I understand your role is to protect the consumer.

I am a consumer. You advised I seek legal assistance. I should not have to if alls I want to know is what agreement I have. The rules and regulations aught to be simple enough for consumers to determine that question alone but it seems to be set up in a way which prevents consumers from getting anywhere with any help from the FCA.

I simply would like to know what is needed to become a lender or can anybody do it regardless of authority?

This is not a request for you do deal with a personal matter let me make this clear.
It is a request for information about the FCA and their role?
I have tried direct contact but again I was avoided and I chose this method instead.

My query is simple. I do believe it is being avoided. I do believe by doing such you are protecting the lender who you have already investigated and aught to be able to answer my questions without hesitation.

The reply from the FCA clearly says..... "authorised by us" ?

I await your reply and trust that my concern will be addressed appropriately as I am today involving my MP.

Regards

VICTORIA Dixon

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

Victoria Dixon

The Financial Conduct Authority

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Customer Contact Centre, The Financial Conduct Authority

Dear Victoria

Thank you for contacting our Information Access Team, after their review
your queries have been forwarded onto us for further review as we are the
most appropriate department to answer your questions. As you have asked us
a question and not requested any information that we hold, we will not be
processing your query under the Freedom of Information Act and instead I
will be providing you with a response below.

Where a contract exists between an unregulated lender and individual but
the unregulated lender is an authorised representative of a regulated
firm, should the said contract include information about that business
status ensuring the consumer is aware of their position?

It is unclear about what you mean by this, as firms that are registered
with us an appointed representative will be regulated by us through their
principal.  This means that a firm will either have to be unregulated or
an appointed representative, there is no situation where a firm can be
both in relation to the lending of credit.

A unregulated lender doesn’t have to abide by any of our rules as they
haven’t been authorised by us. An appointed representative must comply
with the Consumer Credit (Agreements) Regulations 2010.  These require,
among other things, a statement of the identity and geographical address
of the creditor and (where relevant) any credit intermediary involved.
They also require a statement specifying that the FCA is the supervisory
authority under the CCA, and a statement explaining that a debtor has (or
in the case of business debtor may have) the right to complain to the
Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS).

At the header of the contract should the word "unregulated agreement" be
used if it is not the case?

If an agreement is unregulated, it will not be subject to any of our
rules. If an agreement is an authorised agreement, firms will have to
abide by the disclosure rules that I have stated above in relation to
Appointed Representatives.

Where a consumer is unsure about their own contract with an unregulated
lender (but is an appointed representative as above) would the FCA be
responsible for determining the status of that contract if the consumer
was left unsure by the lack of details within?

 

All letter sent by Appointed Representatives will have to abide with
[1]Gen 4.3 (letter disclosure)- with the limited exception in GEN 4.3.7R -
in respect of every letter or electronic equivalent which is sent to a
retail client.  GEN 4.3.3G makes clear that this includes letters etc sent
by any of a firm's employees, including its appointed representatives. 
The prescribed wording is in [2]GEN 4 Annex 1.

The exception in GEN 4.3.7R means that the statutory status disclosure is
not required in the credit agreement (where this is within the scope of
the Consumer Credit Directive) or in a letter or electronic equivalent
accompanying such an agreement.

However, it is still required in all other letters etc which the appointed
representative sends to a customer. The Agreements Regulations stipulate
the headings required in a regulated credit agreement.  They do not
stipulate the inclusion of information about the complaints procedure of
the firm (apart from the reference to FOS), but this is required
separately under our [3]DISP rules.

We don’t have the powers to look into individual matters and so we
wouldn’t be able to clarify the status of a contract. We would expect for
a firm to abide with the rules that I have stated above if they fall under
our remit.

Where a secured agreement is unregulated by the FCA, would the consumer
have an alternative avenue to turn down to obtain protection from
unauthorised firms carrying out activities thought to be unfair?  Other
than the FOS?

If an agreement is unregulated, there are no protections in place for
consumers in relation to these products. The only next step available to
you will be to seek your own legal advice about any disputes that you may
have in relation to an unregulated agreement.

Regulatory Bodies

There are only two bodies which play a role in the regulation of lenders.

FCA – We look over the general conduct of the firms that we regulate

.

FOS- They look into complaints that consumers may have with the firms that
we regulate.

Further Information

As you have asked for a lot of information about lending, I appreciate
that this may be a quite difficult to take on all the answers that I have
provided you. If you would like further guidance, you can call our
consumer helpline on 0800 111 6768 or you can respond with your contact
number and I will be happy to get in touch with you.

Finally, Victoria, to help us improve our service, I’m interested in
finding out about your experience with the Contact Centre today. I’ll send
you a link to a survey and I’d appreciate it if you could take a few
moments to share your feedback with us.

Yours Sincerely

Customer Contact Centre

Financial Conduct Authority

Consumer Helpline: 0800 111 6768

www.fca.org.uk

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Dear Ms Dixon
 
Thank you for your email.
 
In line with our policy and guidance produced by the Ministry of Justice,
your requests for information was not dealt with under the formal FoIA
regime. This is because your requests were not for 'recorded information';
instead, you had asked us to provide answers or explanations to the
questions you posed. We therefore treated your requests as "routine
correspondence" and passed to our Consumer Contact Centre to respond.
Please note that as we have not processed them under FoIA, we are unable
to complete an internal review of your request.
 
Since your email below we understand that our Contact Centre sent you a
further response dated 13 May, which we hope further answers your
questions. You raise some further questions in your latest email which our
Consumer Contact Centre have provided the following answers:
 
Q: Can you provide to me the agreement and terms that a lender acting as
an appointed representative introducer for a regulated company would enter
into with either the FCA or their principle allowing that position to be
held?
 
A: We can’t provide you with any copies of agreements that AR’s may have
with their principle as this would be a private agreement between
themselves. Principles would have to fill in a form and submit it to us
when they take on an Appointed Representative. You can find the form via
this link -
[1]http://www.fca.org.uk/your-fca/documents...
 
Q: Also, with regards to lending. What is the actual law for anybody to
lend funds to another person if the lender has no licence or authorisation
to continue doing such from a relevant authorisation?
 
A: As we aren’t legally trained, we are unable to provide you with any
guidance as to what laws may apply in this situation. I will state that if
a firm/individual is providing services or products which should be
regulated without our authorisation, this could be a violation of the
Regulated Activities Order. [2]Section 60B of this order defines what a
regulated credit agreement is.
 
Q: With regards to Loan Sharks, how is this term defined within the FCA?
 
A: We don’t recognise this term and so we have no definition of a ‘loan
shark’.
 
Q: I simply would like to know what is needed to become a lender or can
anybody do it regardless of authority?
 
If you would like information on the authorisation process for a lender,
we have a dedicated webpage explaining the steps that firm can take when
they require authorisation. You can find this page via the following link

[3]https://www.the-fca.org.uk/authorisation...
 
If you are still unhappy with the responses you have received please let
us know and we can look into this again for you.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Information Access Team / Finance and Business Services
Financial Conduct Authority
25 The North Colonnade
Canary Wharf
London
E14 5HS
 
Tel:    +44 (0)20 7066 8080
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