County Court Central London CCCL or is it Central London County CLCC - for opposed specialist Bankruptcy Hearings
Dear Her Majesty's Courts and Tribunals Service,
County Court Central London CCCL or is it Central London County CLCC - for opposed specialist Bankruptcy Hearings
Which of these hears specialist opposed bankruptcy work.
HMCTS has previously stated that DDJ Mackenzie sat on the 17 Oct 2019 Central London County sitting at the Bankruptcy Court (Central London) which does not clarify whether this is the CCCL or CLCC?
Please also confirm if she made any Orders on 17 October 2019 heard under this specialist bankruptcy sub list.
Yours faithfully,
Deb Williams
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Dear Ms Williams,
Thank you for your email below, which has been forwarded to the court to provide a response. It may help if I explain that the County Court is only one entity and that this hears bankruptcy work. The full official name of the court is the County Court at Central London (CCCL) and this is the name used on orders and other documents produced by the court. The court is also often referred to as Central London County Court (CLCC). This is due to the establishment of the single County Court in April 2014, before which each court was an individual county court in their own right.
DDJ Mackenzie sat as a Bankruptcy judge on 17/10/19. As she heard multiple cases multiple orders will have been made. If you are looking for an order in a particular case then please provide the court reference number so our records can be investigated.
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Dear RCJBankCLCCDJHearings,
Thank you for clarifying that the county courts became a single County Court in April 2014 and sit in their various county court hearing centres, including the county court hearing centre at Central London, although more commonly and confusing still known as the Central London County Court which no longer exits.
And for pointing that the London Insolvency District which covers the London area only, for certain sums below a certain level are heard in the County Court at Central London Bankruptcy hearing centre.
Please clarify is both opposed and non-opposed bankruptcy work heard in this county court hearing centre or only Business and Property Work which is specialist Chancery work.
Non-opposed bankruptcy work is heard in the County Court hearing centres in the same way as statutory demands that are opposed, and other civil work that does not require a specialist ticketed judge. Are you saying that the CCCL does not hear any other work like possessions case as strayed on HMCTS find a court?
Did she sit in the companies court and hear these bulk hearing in court room 88.
Did DDJ Mackenzie sit on the 17 October 2019 as a specialist ticketed judge to hear opposed specialist Business and Property Work in the Chancery List, bankruptcy sub-list not?
Not all judges are qualified or authorised by a Supervising Judge to hear specialist opposed bankruptcy work, please provide the name of the Supervising Judge. And provide a list of the multiple cases which will have been made public on HMCTS website so this list can be made available to present to the ICO.
Yours sincerely,
Deb Williams
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Dear Her Majesty's Courts and Tribunals Service,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Her Majesty's Courts and Tribunals Service's handling of my FOI request 'County Court Central London CCCL or is it Central London County CLCC - for opposed specialist Bankruptcy Hearings'.
Please treat the 4 February 2022 as a request for an internal review because you have failed to provide answers to the question or provide clarification and prior to this FOIR being forwarded to the ICO to make a decision.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
Yours faithfully,
Deb Williams
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Dear Disclosure Team,
Why are you claiming you do not have to provide whether DDJ Mackenzie made any orders on 17 October 2019. And whether she sat in the companies court room 88 to hear bulk hearing work. Or did she sit as a specialist ticketed judge to hear opposed specialist Business and Property Work in the Chancery List, bankruptcy sub-list or not?
If she did in fact hear specialist work please provide her Supervising Judge, any work she carried out will have been provided and made public on the HMCTS website for 17 October 2019.
Yours sincerely,
Deb Williams
Dear Disclosure Team,
Why is this FOIR being ignored and information being concealed.
Yours sincerely,
Deb Williams
Dear Ms Williams
We have advised you that this request does not fall under the FOIA.
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Deb Williams left an annotation ()
This begs the question are HMCTS concealing who is sitting as a judge and when and which orders if any they are making because they are not sitting in their judicial capacity at all and are in fact sitting as an Administrative Agent of HMCTS itself an AGENCY of the Ministry of Justice?
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Deb Williams left an annotation ()
It can only be presumed from the concealment of information by HMCTS that DDJ Mackenzie did not in fact make any orders when she sat on the 17 Oct 2019, otherwise why conceal this information, because the court has a duty to record when judges are sitting and any orders they made.
Not all judges are qualified to carry out all types of court work.