Council Tax
Dear Gravesham Borough Council,
I would like to make a request under the freedom of information act.
Could you tell me if I have to pay council tax by law or is it statute legislation?
Is this tax made against MR S GILBERT...... (the person and corporation) or MR S GILBERT of the ...... family (a freeman of the land)?
If it is legislation, i have the choice of whether or not to contract with you (Gravesham Borough Council, a corporation) and pay this tax.
If no such contract exists, under common law this would give me the lawful right as a freeman and not MR S GILBERT ........ (the person and a corporation)to not pay this tax to you.
Could you please confirm or correct this information.
Many thanks
Yours faithfully,
Mr Shane Kevin Gilbert.
Our Ref: DocumentOwner\GFOI-022805\DocumentRef
Freedom of Information Request - Ref: GFOI-022805
Dear Customer,
Further to your request for information under the above act, I can advise you that the information you requested is not held by this authority.
The Home Office may hold the information you are seeking. If you have not already done so, then you may wish to write to them at:
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisati...
Kind regards,
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Dear freedomgravesham,
As with Regards to my Freedom of Information Request - Ref: GFOI-022805 . I would be grateful if you could provide a direct contact e.mail address for the correct Home Office department to deal with this matter as it appears that you forgot to attach it to the sent document.
I find this a little strange as surely my responsibilities for payment lie with yourselves, so therefore your obligations lie with you to supply me the correct information.
I look forward to your answer shortly.
Yours sincerely,
Shane Gilbert
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Richie McNicol
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Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
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Dear freedomgravesham,
I request the above information. Maybe request the information from Officer 151.
Thankyou.
Yours sincerely,
Shane Gilbert
Dear Gravesham Borough Council,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Gravesham Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Council Tax'.
I am still awaiting a response from yourselves concerning this matter and
the Response to this request is long overdue. By law you have to reply.
I await your reply and please note that my Council tax will remain unpaid until I get a satisfactory answer from yourselves.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
Yours faithfully,
Shane Gilbert
Good Afternoon Mr Gilbert,
Please find attached a response to your Internal Review request and a
response to your Freedom of Information request.
Yours Sincerely
Richie McNicol
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Tel: 01634 33(7894)
Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham, ME4 4RT
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Dear Gravesham Borough Council,
Thank you for your reply. As you stated this tax comes under the Local Government Finance Act 1992. All acts require consent to be given the force of law, they are rules and regulations of society.
THEY ARE NOT LAW.
Therefore I DO NOT CONSENT.
THERE IS NO LAW requiring anybody to pay tax of any kind. All taxes are made out to a legal body, Mr,Mrs whoever and not to the human being. This is why many judgements made in court with regards to council tax usually fall apart at the very beginning if the person defending themselves understands the law. Because the tax is against a piece of paper (birth certificate) and if there is no human to represent the legal fiction then there is nobody to pay. You presented many legal arguments for the tax but no lawful argument. As you are aware (or maybe not ) all acts fall under marine law (law of the sea) and have no power on land where common law (law of the land) is the power. These acts all require consent, and to say otherwise is being untruthful is it not?
I DO NOT CONSENT to entering into a contract with yourselves.
Your council is a registered company, with the objective one would assume of making money. ( You are listed under companies house, Company number OC445300). If you wish to take money from somebody for a service under law that would require a contract, without a contract we do not know what service we are receiving for money paid. A company can only use company rules (legal acts) against another company (a person Mr.Mrs...)to enforce the collection of monies.
Also as mentioned statutes are rules and regulations of society, and society is a group of like minded people acting together. A birth certificate is taken as proof of membership to the UK society, but should one wish to withdraw from this society as one can do from any group they are a member of, then the rules of that society no longer apply.
If taken to court and tried under common law not statute law, you would find that the case would be short if it was heard at all. as has been the case with over 2 Million people in the UK to date.
Would you agree with what is stated? I look forward to your reply on this matter and the services that you state we pay for because for certain it is not happening in this area for sure. Please take some time out and look at the streets around Northfleet and surrounding areas, it is an absolute disgrace.
Yours faithfully,
Shane Gilbert
Dear Mr Gilbert,
If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner for a
decision. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: Information
Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF.
Yours Sincerely
Richie McNicol
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Tel: 01634 33(7894)
Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham, ME4 4RT
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Dear Gravesham Borough Council,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Gravesham Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Council Tax'.
[ GIVE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR COMPLAINT HERE ]
I note that you have not confirmed or denied whether the authority holds this information, and have not applied an exemption that would remove this obligation.
As you may be aware, Section 1(1) of the FOI Act (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/200...) states that "Any person making a request for information to a public authority is entitled to be informed in writing by the public authority whether it holds information of the description specified in the request".
I would be grateful if you could clarify whether or not this information is held, or specify which exemption of the duty to confirm or deny you are applying.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
Yours faithfully,
Shane Gilbert
Dear Mr Gilbert,
In order for me to be able to conduct an Internal Review I will need to
know the reference number which was assigned to the FOI you wish to be
reviewed. Please can you provide the reference number?
Yours Sincerely
Richie McNicol
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham, ME4 4RT
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Dear freedomgravesham,
Good afternoon on this lovely sunny day, ref number as follows
Freedom of Information Request - Ref: GFOI-022805
Yours sincerely,
Shane Gilbert
Dear Mr Gilbert,
An internal review has already been undertaken for this FOI and a response
was given to you on the 6^th June 2023. If you are not content with the
outcome of the internal review, you have the right to apply directly to
the Information Commissioner for a decision. The Information Commissioner
can be contacted at: Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House,
Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
Yours Sincerely
Richie McNicol
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham, ME4 4RT
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I am currently working from home Mon –Fri.
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information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is
addressed. It may contain sensitive or protectively marked material and
should be handled accordingly.
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commitment on the part of Medway Council and Gravesham Borough Council. If
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Dear freedomgravesham,
Good afternoon, Quite clearly someone is withholding information about my rights as a UK citizen.
Below is the answer from said department that you supplied to me concerning this matter.
My complaint is about you as a Council and you are also a corporate business ( that makes profits ) listed under companies house that should be supplying services to me that I pay for as a Tax payer that
IS NOT LEGAL IN Common LAW ( Not Maritime Law ).
You are a corporate business and therefore I DO NOT wish to do business with you in any way, which is my right.I have no Contract with you and choose not to do so which is my right as a UK Citizen.
Again I ask WITH RESPECT, if you could you tell me if I have to pay council tax by law or is it statute legislation? see below link .
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/understan...
Is this tax made against MR S GILBERT...... (the person and corporation) or MR S GILBERT of the ...... family (a freeman of the land)?
If it is legislation, i have the choice of whether or not to contract with you (Gravesham Borough Council, a corporation) and pay this tax.
If no such contract exists, under common law this would give me the lawful right as a freeman and not MR S GILBERT ........ (the person and a corporation)to not pay this tax to you.
Your internal review is insufficient and biased in my opinion.
Please could you give me the answer that I have requested from yourselves .
Thankyou .
Shane K Gilbert ( Legal name ).
Yours sincerely,
Shane Gilbert.
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As follows :
30 August 2023
Dear S Gilbert
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO)
through the whatdotheyknow.com (WDTK) website.
The WDTK website was created to help people request information from
public authorities under the Freedom of Information Act (FoIA) and the
Environmental Information Regulations (EIRs).
The ICO is the regulator responsible for overseeing information rights
legislation. We are also subject to the legislation we oversee.
As a public authority we are subject to the FoIA and EIRs, so if people
want to request information we might hold about our work as a public body
they can do this through WDTK.
The correspondence you have sent to us is not a request for information we
might hold. It is a concern or complaint about an organisation. We do deal
with issues like this. However, we do not deal with this part of our work
through the WDTK website.
Please visit the ICO website www.ico.org.uk for information about the
legislation we oversee and advice on what to do if you are unhappy with
the way an organisation has met its information rights obligations.
If you need to raise a complaint or concern with us you can do this by
following the instructions on this page of our website -
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Please also contact our helpline for any further advice on 0303 123
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make no commitment to respond if you do.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner's Office
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
Dear Mr Gilbert,
If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner for a
decision. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: Information
Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF.
Yours Sincerely
Richie McNicol
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham, ME4 4RT
Check out the [1]ICO guidance on Information Sharing Agreements
I am currently working from home Mon –Fri.
This Email, and any attachments, may contain Protected or Restricted
information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is
addressed. It may contain sensitive or protectively marked material and
should be handled accordingly.
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commitment on the part of Medway Council and Gravesham Borough Council. If
this Email has been misdirected, please notify the author immediately. If
you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose, distribute,
copy, print or rely on any of the information contained in it or attached,
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Dear freedomgravesham,
Do you actually read the FOI ?
As it states in my FOI to you , I have already contacted them and they have referred the matter back , because they do not deal with these matters .
Quite clearly you do not wish to comment any further . One has to wonder why?
Yours sincerely,
Shane Gilbert
Dear Mr Gilbert
Thank you for contacting Gravesham Borough Council.
You made your original request on the 07/03/2023 and received your
response and Internal Review response on the 06/06/2023. You were also
told to go to the ICO if you had a complaint of the outcome on the
12/06/2023.
If you wish to make a complaint to the ICO relating to the outcome of your
Freedom of Information request and/or Internal Review response then you
can do so via the following link -
[1]https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/foi-....
This Freedom Of Information request is closed.
Yours Sincerely
Richie McNicol
Information Governance Officer
Legal Services - Medway Council & Gravesham Borough Council
Gun Wharf, Dock Road, Chatham, ME4 4RT
Check out the [2]ICO guidance on Information Sharing Agreements
I am currently working from home Mon –Fri.
This Email, and any attachments, may contain Protected or Restricted
information and is intended solely for the individual to whom it is
addressed. It may contain sensitive or protectively marked material and
should be handled accordingly.
Nothing in this email message amounts to a contractual or other legal
commitment on the part of Medway Council and Gravesham Borough Council. If
this Email has been misdirected, please notify the author immediately. If
you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose, distribute,
copy, print or rely on any of the information contained in it or attached,
and all copies must be deleted immediately.
Whilst we take reasonable steps to try to identify any software viruses,
any attachments to this Email may nevertheless contain viruses which our
anti-virus software has failed to identify. You should therefore carry out
your own anti-virus checks before opening any documents. Medway Council
and Gravesham Borough Council will not accept any liability for damage
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Dear Gravesham Borough Council,
With great respect the ICO do not deal with these issues as they state in the previous text that you were sent, they have referred the issue back to you. ( My local Authority ),
>>> https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/foi... <<
For your information >> https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992... <<
>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliame... <<
Statute Legislation IS NOT LAW ( Common Law )
My responsibilities lie with you to pay the Council tax has the Government state in the PDF above.
Your responsibilities are to give me an honest answer to my request as per FOI, if you do not know then please have the respect to tell me so that we can put this matter to rest or proceed to a court of Law.
Again with respect I ask
Is this tax made against MR S GILBERT...... (the person and corporation) or MR S GILBERT of the ...... family (a freeman of the land)?
If it is legislation, I have the choice of whether or not to contract with you (Gravesham Borough Council, a corporation) and pay this tax. I DO NOT WISH TO CONTRACT WITH YOU, such is my right.
If no such contract exists, under common law this would give me the lawful right as a freeman and not MR S GILBERT ........ (the person and a corporation)to not pay this tax to you.
AGAIN , I DO NOT WISH TO CONTRACT WITH YOU.
Could you please confirm or correct this information.
Yours faithfully,
Shane Gilbert
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