Council Response to Pindown Inquiry #Pindown

Angie Nickson made this Freedom of Information request to Staffordshire County Council

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Dear Sir or Madam, Staffordshire County Council,

Please could you answer this under the Freedom Of Information Regulations.

Could I ask for the Councils response to the Pindown Enquiry, I think in the early nineties

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Allen, Gemma (D,L&T), Staffordshire County Council

Dear Ms Nickson,

Thank you for your request for information. I apologise for the delay in responding.

I can confirm that Staffordshire County Council has now published a copy of the The Pindown Experience and the Protection of Children, The Report of the Staffordshire Child Care Inquiry 1990 by Allan Levy QC and Barbara Kahan on our publication scheme. A copy can be found at the following link:
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/yourcoun...

If you have any queries or require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me.

In the first instance if you have any comments relating to how your request has been handled by our authority, please write to Lian Stibbs, Access Manager, Information Governance Unit, Staffordshire County Council, Wedgwood Building, Block A, Tipping Street, Stafford, ST16 2DH.

If you have any further comments relating to how your request has been handled by our authority, please contact the Information Commissioner, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.

Many Thanks
Gemma Allen
Access to Information Officer
Information Governance Unit
Staffordshire County Council
Staffordshire Place
c/o Wedgwood Building - Block A
Tipping Street, Stafford
ST16 2DH
Tel: 01785 278568
[email address]

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Dear Staffordshire County Council,

Dear Gemma (D,L&T),

Thank you for your reply saying that you have published the Pindown Report. However I asked for the Councils response to the Report.

Staffordshire County Council have not replied promptly as required by the law,
they have not replied within 20 working days as required by the law,
they have not provided me with the documents I ask for as required by the law

I am therefore requesting an internal review on these issues and in the meantime I would like Staffordshire County Council to provide me with the information as required by the law

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Stibbs, Lian (D,L&T), Staffordshire County Council

Dear Ms Nickson,

I write in response to your request for an internal review. The authority does not hold information pertaining to a response to the Pindown Report. We simply hold a copy of the investigation report which is published within our publication scheme. However, we can confirm that the lessons to be learned were taken very seriously and have influenced positive changes to the delivery of associated services. Since this report was published there has been considerable change to the legislation and inspection frameworks in relation to children’s services and we would note that this enquiry is now 20 years old. The relevant learning from this enquiry is however carried forward into current service provision.

If you have any further comments relating to how your request has been handled by our authority, please contact the Information Commissioner, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.

Yours Sincerely,

Lian Stibbs
Access Manager

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Dear Lian Stibbs(D,L&T),
For the interanl review you have 3 points to address.
I wrote
"Staffordshire County Council
[1]have not replied promptly as required by the law,
[2]they have not replied within 20 working days as required by the law,
[3]they have not provided me with the documents I ask for as required by the law"

Lian, on behalf of Staffordshire County Council
you failed to address point 1 unlawfully
you failed to address point 2 unlawfully
you addressed point 3.

On point 3 under section 16, How can the Council say "that the lessons to be learned were taken very seriously and have influenced positive changes to the delivery of associated services."

Was there an internal response Report and it has now been lost?
How were lessons learnt?
How long were copies of the Report held before they were withdrawn?
Were there any minutes of meetings that discussed the report? Why are these not available? It is inconceivable that there were not any minuted meetings.
Who is your in line manager?

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Staffordshire County Council's handling of my FOI request 'Council Response to Pindown Inquiry #Pindown'.

I have received no response to my questions

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Evans, Sophie (D,L&T), Staffordshire County Council

Dear Angie,

Thank you for your email received 1 March 2014 regarding your recent Freedom of Information Request. We are now treating your email as a complaint.

The Access Manager would normally expect to be able to deal with such matters within 20 working days. On occasion this is not possible because of issues that arise in reviewing a complaint. If this is the case I will write to you again and explain any delay and when you can expect an answer. At present I have no reason to believe this matter cannot be dealt with within the timescale.

If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to ask.

Many Thanks,

Sophie Evans
Access to Information Team Assistant
Information Governance Unit
Staffordshire County Council
Location: Third Floor, Staffordshire Place 2, Tipping Street, Stafford
Postal Address: Wedgwood Building, Block A, Tipping Street, Stafford, ST16 2DH
Tel:  01785 895739

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Dear Sophie (D,L&T),
I am unsure of the difference between a complaint and an internal review. Please tell me , however at this stage I want an internal review as is my right

Yours sincerely,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

I have received no reply to my questions of 5th March or the request for the Internal Review. It is beleived you are breaking the law

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

A reply to my internal review request is overdue

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

A reply to my request is still overdue. You will continue to get these mails until you answer it an in the meantime it shows that you are a council incapable of being trusted and not fit for purpose

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

I am still waiting a reply. If you do not comply with the Act as legally obliged then you become personally liable in common law. Please take independent legal advice

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

I am way overdue a response to this request.

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Dear Staffordshire County Council,

I am way overdue a response, please send this as a complaint to the Principal Solicitor

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Allen, Gemma (D,L&T), Staffordshire County Council

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Dear Ms Nickson,

I sincerely apologise for the delay in our response. I also apologise that there seems to have been a misunderstanding as to what you are requesting.

Now that I am clear as the information you require, I have completed a search of our Records Centre and have been able to locate the attached documents which I hope are of use to you.

In answer to your specific questions, I can confirm the following

Was there an internal response Report and it has now been lost?

There was an internal response to the inquiry as can be seen in the papers provided- so in answer to the specific question, no it has not been lost but is no longer relevant to current practice. The legislation, regulations, policies, procedures, inspection framework and Government guidance around the management of children in care and residential care has changed significantly since this time.

How were lessons learnt?

This is reflected in the action plan, in changes to legislation, policy, procedure, practice and training.

How long were copies of the Report held before they were withdrawn?

The report was never technically ‘withdrawn’. As it became less relevant with the passage of time, changes of staff, movement of offices and changing legislation, copies of the report are no longer available in the department. We are not aware of the date the publishers stopped publication of the report.

Were there any minutes of meetings that discussed the report? Why are these not available? It is inconceivable that there were not minuted meetings.

The notes we have provided are the publically available minuted meetings that have been retained.

If you have any queries or require any further information please do not hesitate to contact me.

In the first instance if you have any comments relating to how your request has been handled by our authority, please write to Philip Jones, Head of Information Governance, Information Governance Unit, Staffordshire County Council, Wedgwood Building, Block A, Tipping Street, Stafford, ST16 2DH.

If you have any further comments relating to how your request has been handled by our authority, please contact the Information Commissioner, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.

Many Thanks
Gemma Allen
Acting Access Manager
Information Governance Unit
Staffordshire County Council
Staffordshire Place
c/o Wedgwood Building - Block A
Tipping Street, Stafford
ST16 2DH
Tel: 01785 278568
[email address]

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Dear Staffordshire County Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Staffordshire County Council's handling of my FOI request 'Council Response to Pindown Inquiry #Pindown'.

Thankyou finally for the information provided and I acknowledge your apology for the delay.
However the delay was of nearly two years and many months went by without even so much as an acknowledgement.
I note as well the attempt to state that it was not known what I required, when it was perfectly clear anyway, i further clarified it when I was told that the information was not existing and besides there has been no clarification since Nov 2013, so how could the council possible suddenly just realise what I required?
Futhermore I still have had no internal review.
Please therfore carry out the internal review, acknowledge that your answer was wrong "The authority does not hold information pertaining to a response to the Pindown Report", acknowledge that you broke the law by not fulfilling my request and give a proper apology which acknowledges the disgusting delay of nearly two years, despite 11 emails from me.
Please also confirm if any information relevant to my request has been deleted since my request.
For your information I belive that the council delay was totally deliberate.
I will ask for further information under a separate request.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

Angie Nickson

Allen, Gemma (D,L&T), Staffordshire County Council

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Dear Ms Nickson,

Please find response attached from Philip Jones, Head of Information Governance.

Many Thanks
Gemma Allen
Acting Access Manager
Information Governance Unit
Staffordshire County Council
Staffordshire Place
c/o Wedgwood Building - Block A
Tipping Street, Stafford
ST16 2DH
Tel: 01785 278568
[email address]

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