Cost of police deployment at Paternoster Square on 15th October 2011

Liliana Dmitrovic made this Freedom of Information request to Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

The request was refused by Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

From: Liliana Dmitrovic

18 November 2011

Dear Metropolitan Police Service (MPS),

Please provide full breakdown of number of all (including
specialist units) officers, vehicles and animals deployed at the
protest around Paternoster Square on 15th October 2011, together
with the costs for deployment of each.

I would appreciate it if you would provide information in a
spreadsheet with clear headings for unit type, total officers
deployed, total cost per unit/entry (eg: dog support unit
(officers), 10, £5,000; dog support unit (dogs), 5, £1,000; etc)

Yours faithfully,

Liliana Dmitrovic

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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

21 November 2011

Dear Ms. Dmitrovic

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2011110002926
I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 18/11/2011.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

 "Please provide full breakdown of number of all (including specialist
units) officers, vehicles and animals deployed at the protest around
Paternoster Square on 15th October 2011, together with the costs for
deployment of each.        

I would appreciate it if you would provide information in a spreadsheet
with clear headings for unit type, total officers deployed, total cost per
unit/entry (eg: dog support unit (officers), 10, £5,000; dog support unit
(dogs), 5, £1,000; etc)"

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 (the Act).  You will receive a response within the
statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Act, subject to
the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third
party.  In some circumstances the MPS may be unable to achieve this
deadline.  If this is likely you will be informed and given a revised
time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
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Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet, which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please write
or contact me at the above e-mail address, quoting the reference number
above.

Yours sincerely

R. Loizou
Policy and Support Officer
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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

28 November 2011

Dear Ms Dmitrovic

Freedom of Information Request Reference No:  2011110002926

I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 18/11/2011.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

**  Please provide full breakdown of number of all (including specialist
units) officers, vehicles and animals deployed at the protest around
Paternoster Square on 15th October 2011, together with the costs for
deployment of each.  I would appreciate it if you would provide
information in a  spreadsheet with clear headings for unit type, total
officers deployed, total cost per unit/entry (eg: dog support unit
(officers), 10, **5,000; dog support unit (dogs), 5, **1,000; etc)

EXTENT OF SEARCHES TO LOCATE INFORMATION

To locate the information relevant to your request searches were conducted
at Public Order and Operational Support.

DECISION

The information you have requested does not fall within the remit of the
MPS Public Order and Operational Support Unit.

City of London Police had responsibility for the policing of Paternoster
Square on 15th October 2011. Kindly direct your request to City of London
Police. I have provided a link to the Freedom of Information Department
for the City of London Police.

http://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/CityPo...

COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of
complaint.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please write
or contact Yvette Taylor on telephone number 0207 230 3153 quoting the
reference number above.

Yours sincerely

Yvette Taylor
Information Manager
In complying with their statutory duty under sections 1 and 11 of the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 to release the enclosed information, the
Metropolitan Police Service will not breach the Copyright, Designs and
Patents Act 1988. However, the rights of the copyright owner of the
enclosed information will continue to be protected by law.  Applications
for the copyright owner's written permission to reproduce any part of the
attached information should be addressed to MPS Directorate of Legal
Services, 1st Floor (Victoria Block), New Scotland Yard, Victoria, London,
SW1H 0BG.
COMPLAINT RIGHTS

Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your request.  

Ask to have the decision looked at again ***

The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is to
telephone the case officer that is nominated at the end of your decision
letter.

That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues and
assist with any problems.

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.
The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

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monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

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Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)

12 January 2012

Dear Ms Dmitrovic

Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2011110002926

I write in connection with your request for information which was received
by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 18/11/2011.  I note you seek
access to the following information:

 Please provide full breakdown of number of all (including specialist
units) officers, vehicles and animals deployed at the protest around
Paternoster Square on 15th October 2011, together with the costs for
deployment of each. I would appreciate it if you would provide information
in a spreadsheet with clear headings for unit type, total officers
deployed, total cost per unit/entry (eg: dog support unit (officers), 10,
£5,000; dog support unit (dogs), 5, £1,000; etc).

Your request was received by the MPS on 21st November 2011, however as
your request related to Paternoster Square in the City of London, you were
advised to direct your request to City of London Police. On 4th January
2011, the latter provided you with details of the number of City of London
Police supplied to the MPS by way of mutual aid and advised you of the
overtime costs that resulted.  The request for information was returned to
the MPS to provide you with a response in relation to the MPS deployment
costs at Paternoster Square on 15th October 2011.

Before I explain the decisions I have made in relation to your request, I
thought that it would be helpful to outline the parameters set out by the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) within which a request for
information can be answered. To assist I have provided a legal annex
below.

The Freedom of Information Act 2000 creates a statutory right of access to
information held by public authorities. A public authority in receipt of a
request must, if permitted, state under Section 1(a) of the Act, whether
it holds the requested information and, if held, then communicate that
information to the applicant under Section 1(b) of the Act.
The right of access to information is not without exception and is subject
to a number of exemptions which are designed to enable public authorities
to withhold information that is unsuitable for release. Importantly the
Act is designed to place information into the public domain, that is, once
access to information is granted to one person under the Act, it is then
considered public information and must be communicated to any individual
should a request be received.

DECISION

This letter is to inform you that it will not be possible to respond to
your request within the cost threshold.
We estimate that the cost of complying with this request would exceed the
appropriate limit. The appropriate limit has been specified in regulations
and for agencies outside central Government; this is set at £450.00. This
represents the estimated cost of one person spending 18 hours [at a rate
of £25 per hour] in determining whether the MPS holds the information, and
locating, retrieving and extracting the information.

Once part of the request goes over cost, the whole request is exempt by
virtue of section 12 and there is no obligation to answer any part of the
request. Therefore, In accordance with the Freedom of Information Act
2000, this letter acts as a Refusal Notice for the whole of your request
under Section 12 (2) (See ICO decision notice in Legal Annex).

REASONS FOR DECISION

You have asked for a vast amount of information which may be held by
individuals and departments throughout the MPS. It would require a
significant effort to locate and extract information that may or may not
be available. The MPS does not hold the information you require centrally
though it may be held locally and I estimate that the FOIA cost threshold
would be exceeded on the basis of the time needed to conduct the searches
outlined below:

You have asked for a full breakdown of all officers, vehicles, animals and
specialist units which were deployed at Paternoster Square and also the
costs of each deployment.
There was 846 police officers and police staff deployed for the Occupy
London Protest of which the Paternoster Square Protest was a part. You
have asked for statistical and cost information relating to the deployment
of officers, vehicles, animals and specialist units used at the protest.

To provide a break down on the numbers/cost of officers, vehicles, animals
and specialist units deployed at Paternoster Square would require a
disproportionate amount of time to retrieve. As previously explained, The
Paternoster Square Protest was a part of the Occupy London Protest.
Establishing the number/cost of officers, vehicles, animals and specialist
units deployed specifically to Paternoster Square would require contacting
all 32 Boroughs (BOCU) and specialist support departments (Territorial
Support Group (TSG), Dogs Support Units (DSU) and others). For example, if
I gave each BOCU just 30 minutes to identify how many officers were
deployed to Paternoster Square, it would take 16 hours leaving just 2
hours for the specialist departments to retrieve the same information.

Section 16(duty to assist)

We are required to offer you the opportunity to redefine your request
within the cost limit.
I may be able to assist, If you were to narrow your questions relating to
the Paternoster Square Protest to a specific department/unit of the MPS.
However, breakdown of costs are rarely provided due to the time required
in compiling the request and, because in certain cases they may impact on
how the MPS polices future events (See legal annex sec 31). It takes time
to compile the costs requested and this request is likely to exceed the
cost limit determined for FOIA requests. However, as a matter of course,
the costs for large scale events such as The Occupy London Protest are
reported to the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA) who publish them in
July of each year and should be available through this link after
publication:  http://www.mpa.gov.uk/committees/finres/ so the Metropolitan
Police Authority (MPA).

(Please note that from the 16th of January 2012 the MPA will be replaced
by the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPC) who publish them in
July of each year.)

If you wish to discuss redefining your request, please contact me on 020
7230 3153 or via email [email address]

Legal Annex

Section 12 (2)
Subsection (1) does not exempt the public authority from its obligation to
comply with paragraph (a) of section 1(1) unless the estimated cost of
complying with that paragraph alone would exceed the appropriate limit.

ICO Decision

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/d...

Section 17 of the Act provides:
(1)     A public authority which, in relation to any request for
information, is to any extent relying on a claim that any provision in
part II relating to the duty to confirm or deny is relevant to the request
or on a claim that information is exempt information must, within the time
for complying with section 1(1), give the applicant a notice which-
(a) states the fact,
(b) specifies the exemption in question, and
(c) states (if that would not otherwise be apparent) why the exemption
applies.
Section 17(5) of the Act provides:
(5) A public authority which, in relation to any request for information,
is relying on a claim that section 12 or 14 applies must, within the time
for complying with section 1(1), give the applicant a notice stating that
fact.

Section 31:
Provides an exemption for information if disclosure would be likely to
prejudice the enforcement of law.
31(1) Information which is not exempt information by virtue of section 30
is exempt information if its disclosure under this Act would, or would be
likely to, prejudice;-
(a) the prevention or detection of crime,
(b) the apprehension or prosecution of offenders,
(c) the administration of justice,
(g) the exercise by any public authority of its functions for any of the
purposes specified in subsection (2),
(h) any civil proceedings which are brought by or on behalf of a public
authority and arise out of an investigation conducted, for any of the
purposes specified in subsection
(2), by or on behalf of the authority by virtue of Her Majesty's
prerogative or by virtue of powers conferred by or under an enactment,
31(2) The purposes referred to in subsection (1)(g) to (i) are;-
(a) the purpose of ascertaining whether any person has failed to comply
with the law,
(b) the purpose of ascertaining whether any person is responsible for any
conduct which is improper,
(c) the purpose of ascertaining whether circumstances which would justify
regulatory action in pursuance of any enactment exist or may arise,
31(3) The duty to confirm or deny does not arise if, or to the extent
that, compliance with section 1(1)(a) would, or would be likely to,
prejudice any of the matters mentioned in subsection (1).

COMPLAINT RIGHTS
If you are dissatisfied with this response please read the attached paper
entitled Complaint Rights which explains how to make a complaint.  
Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please
contact me on 0207 230 3153 or at the address at the top of this letter,
quoting the reference number above.
COMPLAINT RIGHTS
Are you unhappy with how your request has been handled or do you think the
decision is incorrect?

You have the right to require the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) to
review their decision.

Prior to lodging a formal complaint you are welcome and encouraged to
discuss the decision with the case officer that dealt with your request.  

Ask to have the decision looked at again –

The quickest and easiest way to have the decision looked at again is to
telephone the case officer that is nominated at the end of your decision
letter.

That person will be able to discuss the decision, explain any issues and
assist with any problems.

Complaint

If you are dissatisfied with the handling procedures or the decision of
the MPS made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (the Act) regarding
access to information you can lodge a complaint with the MPS to have the
decision reviewed.

Complaints should be made in writing, within forty (40) working days from
the date of the refusal notice, and addressed to:

FOI Complaint
Public Access Office
PO Box 57192
London
SW6 1SF
[email address]

In all possible circumstances the MPS will aim to respond to your
complaint within 20 working days.

The Information Commissioner

After lodging a complaint with the MPS if you are still dissatisfied with
the decision you may make application to the Information Commissioner for
a decision on whether the request for information has been dealt with in
accordance with the requirements of the Act.

For information on how to make application to the Information Commissioner
please visit their website at www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk.
 Alternatively, phone or write to:

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Phone:  01625 545 700

Yours sincerely

Yvette Taylor
Information Manager

Total Policing is the Met's commitment to be on the streets and in your
communities to catch offenders, prevent crime and support victims. We are
here for London, working with you to make our capital safer.

 

Consider our environment - please do not print this email unless
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monitored to the extent permitted by law.  Consequently, any email and/or
attachments may be read by monitoring staff. Only specified personnel are
authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of the MPS by
email. The MPS accepts no responsibility for unauthorised agreements
reached with other employees or agents.  The security of this email and
any attachments cannot be guaranteed. Email messages are routinely scanned
but malicious software infection and corruption of content can still occur
during transmission over the Internet. Any views or opinions expressed in
this communication are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
represent those of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS).

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