Contents of the Anthrax vaccine specifically developed for British Troops in the Gulf War
Dear Ministry of Defence,
We are still confused surrounding the Anthrax Vaccine specifically developed for the Gulf War 90/91. Could you please clarify.
Initially when we first enquired, it was a vague assumption that the Anthrax vaccine licenced in the 50's was used! Then when we delved for more details, we were informed that MOD has no information/data surrounding the Anthrax vaccine specifically developed for use on our troops in preparation for the Gulf War.
We have been passed on to different departments and different pseudonyms that Porton Down has carried out its work under over the years!
In recent months the internal review vaguely mentioned the Anthrax vaccine licenced in the 50's again. So we have had a look into that vaccine. The timings for vaccinations and the number of that vaccine required under licensing are different to what was administered to troops. Also most importantly it already contained an adjuvant of aluminium! This would cause problems with over stimulation of the immune system (Highly likely causing autoimmune conditions) if administered with another adjuvant (pertussis).
So firstly could you clear up which is the correct answer. Is MOD in possession of data (for example - Porton Down Documents) proving without doubt the 50's licenced Anthrax vaccine was used or that there is no data surrounding the Anthrax vaccine specifically developed for the administration to our troops in the Gulf War 90/91 (Which ALL Porton Down replys have stated).
My second question when did this data gone missing?
Obviously MOD would have carried out it's 'Duty of Care' by investigating this missing data? Especially as MOD's Lessons learned internal investigation in the early nineties highlighted the shambles surrounding missing vaccine/medical data during and shortly after the War in regards to the troops experimental immunisation programme.
Surely MOD did not then go on and lose the data to the actual vaccine at the centre of veterans complaints?
MOD claim they monitor Global research in reference to Gulf War Illnesses, when was the last time they updated our sick Gulf War Veterans in regards to updates in Global research and how
(email/letter/both)?
MOD have also claimed that British vaccines although similar were not exactly the same as the U.S. IF MOD has really misplaced the data surrounding the British Gulf Anthrax vaccine ( which can only hinder treatment research of our veterans). Really? following a Lessons learned process basically stating stop losing the data? Then surely someone would have had least been made accountable if this is true? following another internal investigation. When did this investigation take place and what disciplinary action was taken against individual responsible?
Thankyou in advance for your help clearing up these queries on behalf of sick veterans. We do realise the incompetence(or corruption) was prior to
the current administration.
Regards,
gavin roberts
Dear Mr Roberts,
Please see the attached response from the Ministry of Defence to your recent request for information.
Regards,
Defence People Secretariat
(Parliamentary) | Chief of Defence People |Floor 6, Zone N | Main Building |
London | SW1A 2HB
Dear People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER),
My 1st point being that foi's are supposed to be answered in a transparent, open and honest way as required by LAW!
This question concerning the anthrax vaccine has returned several conflicting answers over the past 2 years.
I re-iterate that the first reply that we received was the Anthrax vaccine licenced in the 50's was used.
Then later we received that the U.S formula was used specifically for the development of anthrax for the 1st Gulf War
When we delved deeper, all of a sudden there is no data surrounding the Anthrax developed for our troops in the Gulf War! Can you see how it is all conflicting? How it is not possible that all these answers are open, transparent and honest? If you cannot then please instruct an internal review.
If you can then please provide the correct version which is honest and transparent .
If there is no data now. That suggests it has actually been lost in the last 18 months? As the original replys must have come from somewhere? Do you agree? Or foi staff plucked answers from thin air. Please clear this mess up. We have thousands of sick veterans. They deserve far better treatment than this and you know it!
Regards
gavin roberts
Dear People-Sec-FOI Mailbox (MULTIUSER),
Another week has passed with no reply.
Have we found the true answer from the 3+ options. Or is the internal review been instructed? Thankyou ,
Regards,
gavin roberts
Dear Mr Roberts,
We acknowledge receipt of your email of 28 May 2020 requesting that we
undertake an internal review of a response provided by the Defence People
Secretariat under FOIA on behalf of the Ministry of Defence (reference
above).
The Department's target for completing internal reviews is 20 working days
from date of receipt and we therefore aim to complete the review and
respond to you by 25 June 2020. While we are working hard to achieve this,
in the interests of providing you with a realistic indication of when you
should expect a response, the majority are currently taking between 20 and
40 working days to complete.
We should also advise that the measures implemented by the Department to
prevent the spread of Coronavirus may impact upon our ability to complete
the review within the above timescale but we will aim to provide you with
an update, if necessary
The review will involve a full, independent reconsideration of the
handling of the case as well as the final decision.
Yours sincerely,
MOD Information Rights Compliance Team
Further to our acknowledgement of 1 June 2020, the internal review that relates to request FOI2020/04566 is still on-going and will be provided in due course.
Yours sincerely,
MOD Information Rights Compliance Team.
PSA response to request for Internal Review of FOI2020/04566.
Yours sincerely,
MOD Information Rights Compliance Team
Dear Sandra,
thankyou for the internal review.
We understand that documents were lost, misplaced, destroyed during the Gulf War 90/91 (Whether legitimately or corruptly) in theatre. What we do not understand is - how data can go missing from a government dept (MOD arm Porton Down). As they did not leave base! Especially when they are trialling vaccines , combinations of vaccines funded by the taxpayer which could protect future taxpayer children. Whether successfully or unsuccessful. It is paramount the data is kept safe. More so for an experiment, as education to avoid the same mistakes to be made again to next generations.
The answers seem to be from opinions of people that were not involved in the vaccine regime. We are requesting information from ORIGINAL data! If the ORIGINAL data does not exist? Then it as at best someone's hopeful opinion at a later date
( Hearsay!) Wouldn't you agree?
If the data is dated between August 16th 1990 and February 1991 in reference to answering requests surrounding the Gulf War Anthrax Vaccine. We could accept this as relable data. Or a statement from an individual hands on involved in developing the vaccine, then we could also possibly say it is reliable. Could you confirm if the data falls into this reliable category or not please that MOD has based it's answers on?
Once again we thankyou for your honest efforts in this matter,
Kind Regards,
Gavin Roberts
On behalf of Veterans.
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