Concerning pathologists who conducted the post mortem on Dr David Kelly

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Dear General Medical Council,

I wrote the following to the Royal College of Pathologists who re-directed me to you.

This is a Freedom of Information request which does not necessarily imply malpractice but seeks information to see if malpractice has taken place. Rather than repeat everything I have copied my concerns addressed to the Royal College of Pathologists.

"From: John Goss

11 July 2013

Dear Royal College of Pathologists,

Dr David Kelly was a weapons' inspector found dead in the edge of woodlands at Harrowdown Hill, Oxfordshire. Unusually there was no inquest into his death. Instead Lord Hutton was called in to deal with his death in an inquiry.

One post mortem report into Dr David Kelly's death, that of Roy James Green, mentions that semen was found in Dr Kelly's underpants (See page 12) and also that this is not uncommon.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.u...

However, a nineteenth century pathology book which a colleague, Peter Beswick discovered, Principles of Forensic Medicine. William A. Guy, Henry Renshaw, London, 2nd ed. 1861, contains the following regarding sudden and violent deaths such as hanging:

"(245)

State of the Genital Organs. - The genital organs of both sexes are affected in death by hanging. In the female, redness of the labia and discharge of blood have been occasionally noted, and in the male a more or less complete state of erection of the penis, with discharge of urine, or mucus, or of prostatic fluid, is a frequent occurrence. It may be expected to be present in at least one case in three. But it must be borne in mind, that these appearances in the genital organs, when they do occur, are not characteristic of hanging or strangulation, for they have been observed in other forms of violent (246) and sudden death, as in fatal gun-shot wounds of the brain, and of the large vessels, and in poisoning by prussic acid. It is probable that the fluid ejected from the urethra is not semen but mucus; for, in the report of the case of a criminal executed in America, (‘American Journal of Medical Sciences,’ May 1840,) there was no priapism, but a fluid was discharged which is stated not to have contained any seminal animalcules."

I realise that pathology has moved on, and if we were living in the nineteenth century the police would almost certainly be looking for a murderer or murderers. Sudden and violent death does cause ejaculation. Ejaculation of seminal fluid can also be caused by certain venoms. Murder therefore cannot be ruled out, yet as far as I can see no investigation into this possibility was conducted by the pathologists. The toxicology report of Dr Alexander Richard Allen (page 2) states that he was asked by "Thames Valley Police to analyse the post-mortem samples for the presence of alcohol, drugs, medicines, and volatile substances in order to determine if any of these substances were involved in Dr Kelly’s death".

http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/publ...

Dr Allen next writes in his report that blood and urine samples were tested for the presence of alcohol and a wide range of "commonly available drugs" (page 2) but when the presence of paracetamol and dextropropoxyphene (ingredients of co-proxamol) were found in the blood and stomach "no further analyses were carried out on the stomach's contents." That was despite the fact that his own conclusion was, in the absence of alcohol, it was unlikely that the co-proxamol would have killed Dr Kelly. Dr Allen was informed by Home Office pathologist Dr Hunt, who attended the scene of death, that three blister packs of co-proxamol were found in Dr Kelly's pockets and there was some vomit present. If my understanding is correct no sample of this vomit was taken for laboratory analysis. I also understand that vomiting is found when venoms (for example those of certain spiders and scorpions) are injected into the body.

To my mind the pathologists in this case have failed to investigate two possible other causes of death.

1) Sudden or violent death.
2) Death caused by venom injection, or some other "uncommon"
substance.

I am writing to you because pathology is a specialised subject and I am having difficulty finding out how much forensics have advanced since 1861. In essence I am looking for advice as to where to make representation when, in the absence of an inquest, a most unusual thing in itself, Lord Hutton reached a conclusion of suicide based partly on pathologists' reports. However the pathologists appear not to have exercised their duties as thoroughly as might be expected in such a high profile case in which the public has an interest. Dr Kelly revealed that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, and we were taken into an illegal war on the premise that there were. Where, if my assumptions are correct, do I take my complaint about the pathologists?

Yours faithfully,

John Goss"

While I do not make any accusations it has been noted by others that the leading pathologist in the case, Dr Nicholas Hunt, has been negligent in at least one other instance and I feel his handling of Dr Kelly's post mortem was both rushed and extremely helpful to those prosecuting a war in Iraq, and if so it represents pathology of the most heinous kind.

Yours faithfully,

John Goss

Dear General Medical Council,

I notice that the link in my request does not work (probably because of cutting and pasting). Hopefully this will.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.u...

Yours faithfully,

John Goss

Dear General Medical Council,

Likewise the second link.

http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/publ...

You would have thought I would have had the common sense to check that too. Apologies.

Yours faithfully,

John Goss

FOI, General Medical Council

Dear Mr Goss

Information request - F13/5582/JM

Thank you for your email of 15 July asking for information about the post mortem carried out into the death of Dr David Kelly.

We will look at your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA). We will respond to you as soon as possible, normally within the 20 working-day limit set by the FOIA.

I have allocated your request to Janet Mauldridge. If you have any questions, please contact her on 0161 923 6324 or email [email address]

Yours sincerely

Julian Graves

Julian Graves
Information Access Manager
General Medical Council
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Janet Mauldridge (0161 923 6324), General Medical Council

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Dear Mr Goss

Please see the attached response.

Yours sincerely

Janet Mauldridge
Information Access Officer
0161 923 6324
[email address]

General Medical Council
3 Hardman Street
Manchester
M3 3AW

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