Common law and constables oath

Kirsty Eccles made this Freedom of Information request to Lancashire Constabulary This request has been closed to new correspondence. Contact us if you think it should be reopened.

Response to this request is long overdue. By law, under all circumstances, Lancashire Constabulary should have responded by now (details). You can complain by requesting an internal review.

Dear Lancashire Constabulary,

As the United Kingdom of great Britain is a common law jurisdiction, is it true that constables swear an oath to uphold the law, therein meaning the 'common law' of the land of great Britain, as opposed to corporate rules or statutes?

Yours faithfully,

Kirsty Eccles

Information assurance unit,

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

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or containing a reference to a third party.

 

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I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST REFERENCE NO: 1017/18

Please find attached Lancashire Constabulary’s response to your recent
request for information made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

Regards,

 

 

Compliance Team

HQ – Legal Services

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 412204

Email: [1][email address]

 

 

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Peter Danby left an annotation ()

No UK police constable has a Disclosure and Barring service check prior to employing them [conflict of interest in any case]. UK police have in-house checks, another conflict of interests. Any man/woman who works with vulnerable people is subject to DBS checks, will be vetted for criminal records and can be barred from working with working with vulnerable people, but UK police will employ any man or woman". If a man/woman is found to of committed a crime against a vulnerable man/woman or child, it is common knowledge for there details to be advertised in local papers. Police constables details of offences are rarely advertised, we have a two tier of law system going on in the UK and this needs to stop". All UK police constabularies are also using legalese to entrap people, it's part of there training, they don't use Common Law, just Statutes/Acts of parliament which is not lawful..... Lancashire Police are also registered as a business, just like every police constabulary >> https://companycheck.co.uk/nonLimitedCom....

Dear Lancashire Constabulary,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Lancashire Constabulary's handling of my FOI request 'Common law and constables oath'.

My request was quite a simple one....

"As the United Kingdom of great Britain is a common law jurisdiction, is it true that constables swear an oath to uphold the law, therein meaning the 'common law' of the land of great Britain, as opposed to corporate rules or statutes?"

Yet all you responded with is a copy of the police oath which mentions the "law" but not which law.

Is it Common law or Statute law?

It really is a simple question and as a member of the public I have a right to know.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

Kirsty Eccles

Information assurance unit,

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

Please note that disclosure is subject to the information not being exempt
or containing a reference to a third party.

 

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

 

Lancashire Constabulary is committed to ensuring that all services it
provides are accessible to everyone, including those with disabilities. If
you find the web-site or a document difficult to access please notify us
so that we can assist.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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Information assurance unit,

Good Morning Kirsty,

 

Please be advised that we have booked your request for an internal review
onto our systems under the reference number 1378/18. We will respond to
your internal review in due course.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

HQ – Legal Services

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413203

Email: [1][Lancashire Constabulary request email]

 

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Peter Danby left an annotation ()

Like lots of FOI requests i have seen, the man/woman does not give there name when signing a document online, they sign it with a department, more legalese". As this FOI request is signed compliance team, they obviously have something to hide".
You might like to watch this link, it gives a insiders view of the corruption in courts hidden text language to entrap law abiding people. >>> https://youtu.be/zpVwMECc-OM

Just to let you know you cant take a department to court, it has to be a man or woman with a name, hence why they sign with a department name".

Dear Information assurance unit,
You are late with your response...again.
Please reply immediately.

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

Information assurance unit,

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

Please note that disclosure is subject to the information not being exempt
or containing a reference to a third party.

 

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

 

Lancashire Constabulary is committed to ensuring that all services it
provides are accessible to everyone, including those with disabilities. If
you find the web-site or a document difficult to access please notify us
so that we can assist.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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Dear Information assurance unit,

A response to my internal review request would be welcome, or should I contact the ICO?

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

Information assurance unit,

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

Please note that disclosure is subject to the information not being exempt
or containing a reference to a third party.

 

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

 

Lancashire Constabulary is committed to ensuring that all services it
provides are accessible to everyone, including those with disabilities. If
you find the web-site or a document difficult to access please notify us
so that we can assist.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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Dear Information assurance unit,

I have been waiting since 20th April for a response from yourselves.
Respond today or I shall contact Clive Grunshaw in the first instance, followed by the ICO

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

Information assurance unit,

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

Please note that disclosure is subject to the information not being exempt
or containing a reference to a third party.

 

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

 

Lancashire Constabulary is committed to ensuring that all services it
provides are accessible to everyone, including those with disabilities. If
you find the web-site or a document difficult to access please notify us
so that we can assist.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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Dear Information assurance unit,
On 20th April 2018 I sent you the following request...

"Dear Lancashire Constabulary,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Lancashire Constabulary's handling of my FOI request 'Common law and constables oath'.

My request was quite a simple one....

"As the United Kingdom of great Britain is a common law jurisdiction, is it true that constables swear an oath to uphold the law, therein meaning the 'common law' of the land of great Britain, as opposed to corporate rules or statutes?"

Yet all you responded with is a copy of the police oath which mentions the "law" but not which law.

Is it Common law or Statute law?

It really is a simple question and as a member of the public I have a right to know."

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You have chosen to ignore my request and are now breaking the law.
Please respond immediately!

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

Information assurance unit,

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

Please note that disclosure is subject to the information not being exempt
or containing a reference to a third party.

 

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

 

Lancashire Constabulary is committed to ensuring that all services it
provides are accessible to everyone, including those with disabilities. If
you find the web-site or a document difficult to access please notify us
so that we can assist.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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Dear Ms Eccles, please find attached my response to your request for an
Internal Review of your original FOI request.

My sincerest apologies for the continued delay and I hope we have not
caused you too much inconvenience.

 

Kind regards,

 

Anna Cawley 11044

Information Compliance  & Data Protection Advisor

Data Protection Office

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

Please note my normal working days are Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday.

 

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Dear FOI Responses,

Please provide me with the section of the oath where police swear to uphold both common and statute law as stated in your reply.

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

Dear FOI Responses,

Once again you choose to break the law by ignoring my foi request.
Respond today or I shall contact the ICO who (as you are well aware) will contact yourselves in due course and publish their findings on their website.

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

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Good Afternoon Ms Eccles,

 

Please find attached the response to your request for an Internal Review
of your original FOI request.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Data Protection Office

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

Tel: 01772 413203

Email: [1][email address]

 

 

 

From: FOI Responses
Sent: 01 November 2018 14:43
To: '[FOI #472055 email]'
Subject: 1378 internal review

 

Dear Ms Eccles, please find attached my response to your request for an
Internal Review of your original FOI request.

My sincerest apologies for the continued delay and I hope we have not
caused you too much inconvenience.

 

Kind regards,

 

Anna Cawley 11044

Information Compliance & Data Protection Advisor

Data Protection Office

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

Please note my normal working days are Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday.

 

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Dear FOI,

Nine months this FOI request has been ongoing and yet you still refuse to provide me with the section of the oath where police swear to uphold both common and statute law as stated in your reply.

Could it be that it doesn't exist?

I have today passed this file to the ICO who will contact lancon in due course and publish their findings.

Yours sincerely,

Kirsty Eccles

If you are emailing a valid Freedom of Information request please treat
this as a formal acknowledgement.

 

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, known hereafter as ‘the Act’. You should receive a
response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in
the Act (from when Lancashire Constabulary receive a valid request).

 

Please note that disclosure is subject to the information not being exempt
or containing a reference to a third party.

 

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to
another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest
possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

 

Lancashire Constabulary is committed to ensuring that all services it
provides are accessible to everyone, including those with disabilities. If
you find the web-site or a document difficult to access please notify us
so that we can assist.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
Lancashire Constabulary.

 

Regards,

 

Compliance Team

Professional Standards Department

Information Compliance and Disclosure Section

Lancashire Constabulary Headquarters

 

Tel: 01772 413329

Email: [1][email address]

 

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