Car park at Llangollen Health Centre
Dear Sirs,
On the 19th February, 2014 the Council granted planning permission for the Health Centre and Pharmacy at Mill Street, Llangollen under code 03/2013/1374/PF.
Under Condition 8 it was stipulated that “the car park shall not be brought into use until the written confirmation has been obtained to the proposed management arrangements for the use of of the parking areas outside core operating areas”.
Please provide a copy of the written confirmation duly provided together with any conditions imposed pursuant to that consent as to the management arrangements?
Yours faithfully,
Michael W. Edwards FRICS, IRRV(Hons)
Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your recent request for environmental information held by
Denbighshire County Council received 23/06/2023, regarding parking and
planning permission Mill Street, Llangollen.
As set out by the Environmental Information Regulations 2004 it will be
our aim to respond to your request by 21/07/2023. In some cases, however,
we may be unable to achieve this deadline. If this occurs, we will advise
you of the likely timescale within which the response will be provided.
Under the Environmental Information Regulations, the Council may charge up
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Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
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Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your request for environmental information received
23/06/2023 concerning Parking and planning permission Mill Street,
Llangollen. We need to consult an officer who is currently on leave, and
therefore the response is unlikely to be ready until next week. We do
apologise for the delay.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact
me.
If you have any queries regarding this response, please do not hesitate to
contact me at the following address: Access to Information Officer, PO BOX
62, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin, LL15 9AZ or email
[1][Denbighshire County Council request email]. Alternatively, if you are unhappy with
the way the council has handled your request and wish to ask for internal
review, please contact the Access to Information Manager at the same
address. If you are subsequently not content with the outcome of the
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Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
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nid yw o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. Serch
hynny, fel Corff Cyhoeddus, efallai y bydd angen i Gyngor Sir Ddinbych
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Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your request for environmental information received
23/06/2023 concerning parking and planning permission Mill Street,
Llangollen. We don’t have any record of the management plan referred to -
the information is not held. Planning and Parking will take the matter
forward.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact
me.
If you have any queries regarding this response, please do not hesitate to
contact me at the following address: Access to Information Officer, PO BOX
62, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin, LL15 9AZ or email
[1][Denbighshire County Council request email]. Alternatively, if you are unhappy with
the way the council has handled your request and wish to ask for internal
review, please contact the Access to Information Manager at the same
address. If you are subsequently not content with the outcome of the
review, you have the right to apply to the Information Commissioner whose
address is Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
[2]https://ico.org.uk/
The contents of this communication and the enclosed documents are subject
to copyright protection. It has been sent to you for your information and
you may use it for any private study and non-commercial research. The
information may also be used for the purposes of news reporting. Re-use
for commercial publication requires the permission of this Council.
Please do not hesitate to contact me for further advice or guidance
relating to the above.
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address] E-mail:[email address]
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cyfeirir ef ato neu atynt. Os ydych wedi derbyn yr e-bost hwn drwy
gamgymeriad, hysbyswch yr anfonwr ar unwaith os gwelwch yn dda. Mae
cynnwys yr e-bost yn cynrychioli barn yr unigolyn(ion) a enwir uchod ac
nid yw o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. Serch
hynny, fel Corff Cyhoeddus, efallai y bydd angen i Gyngor Sir Ddinbych
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Dear Kerry,
I wonder if you have now heard anything further from your Planning Department regarding this issue.
My reason for enquiring is that I am Co-Event Director for Old Railway Trail parkrun which was launched just over ten weeks ago and takes place every Saturday morning at 9 am. The event has settled down now after we were inundated with 249 runners the first week. We are still getting over a hundred people taking part each week where people can walk, jog, run or volunteer to enhance their health and wellbeing.
We are advising people attending to park in the public car parks in Llangollen, so it would be useful to know the status of the car parks either side of the Health Centre. The car park on the town side of the Health Centre is used by patients visiting the Pharmacy so we do not want park runners using this area to the disadvantage of patients. Our Start/Finish area is in the car park on the other side of the building(Trevor side) and this gives access and egress to the Old Railway Trail. Again we are actively discouraging people attending our parkrun to use this area, but would like to know it’s official status?
In setting up our parkrun we have had support from David Shiel and his Team at the Countryside Service/AoNB Partnership together with Sport Wales and Welsh Athletics, The GP Practice who are a parkrun practice and the Friends of Llangollen Health Centre and it is running smoothly with excellent feedback from participants, several of who come from far and wide known as parkrun tourists.
I hope you can clarify the issues and status of the car parks at the Health Centre because we do not want to misinform people whether they are able to park or not in those areas?
Yours Sincerely,
Michael Edwards
Dear Kerry,
I wrote to you in August last year regarding parking at Llangollen Health Centre and you were liasing with the Planning and Parking Departments.
I explained fully in my email the reasons for this request in relation to the activities of Old Railway Trail parkrun, Llangollen and our wish not to cause problems on a Saturday morning for patients visiting the Pharmacy or for specific events at the Health Centre which is normally closed on a Saturday mornings.
Unfortunately I do not seem to have received a reply from you and would be grateful to receive a reply now as soon as possible?
Yours Sincerley,
Michael Edwards
Dear Denbighshire County Council,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Denbighshire County Council's handling of my FOI request 'Car park at Llangollen Health Centre'.
The Council have failed to comply with their legal obligations under the Freedom of Information Act as amended.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
Yours faithfully,
Michael Edwards
Dear Mr Edwards
I have attached the Word response to this email. This was sent to [email address] as per your request (attached) on the 7th May 2024.
This is the system record and email:
From: [Denbighshire County Council request email]
To: [email address]
Date: 07/05/2024 11:21
Subject: FOI Response 00002460
Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your request for information received 16/04/2024 concerning Car Park Revenue. Please see the attached response.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.
If you have any queries regarding this response, please do not hesitate to contact me at the following address: Access to Information Officer, PO BOX 62, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin, LL15 9AZ or email [Denbighshire County Council request email]. Alternatively, if you are unhappy with the way the council has handled your request and wish to ask for internal review, please contact the Legal Services Manager at the same address. If you are subsequently not content with the outcome of the review, you have the right to apply to the Information Commissioner whose address is Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF. www.ico.org.uk/foicomplaints
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Please do not hesitate to contact me for further advice or guidance relating to the above.
Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Gwasanaeth Cymorth Corfforaethol: Pobl / Corporate Support Service: People
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
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Dear Kerry,
You seem to be confusing my general request in relation the parking revenue which was dealt, with with this specific request in relation to the car parks(patient) and (Staff) either side of the Health Centre Building.
Please see my original request in relation to the Planning Consent granted for the Health Centre(19/02/2014 under Code 03/2013/1374/PF) and particularly condition 8 thereof requiring “the car park shall not be brought into use until written confirmation to the proposed Management Arrangements for the use of the parking areas outside core operating areas”.
I asked for a copy of the written confirmation duly provided together with any conditions imposed pursuant to that consent as to the approved management arrangements?
I am Co-Event Director of the Old Railway Trail parkrun and issues have arisen with people parking in the car parks and we are unable to clearly clarify any queries from parkrun participants and volunteers in relation to the actual status and arrangements in relation to parking in theses areas!
Yours sincerely,
Michael Edwards
Dear Mr Edwards
To avoid any further confusion are you referring to this request:
FOI 1213 received 23/06/2024 from [FOI #994380 email]
On the 19th February, 2014 the Council granted planning permission for the Health Centre and Pharmacy at Mill Street, Llangollen under code 03/2013/1374/PF.
Under Condition 8 it was stipulated that “the car park shall not be brought into use until the written confirmation has been obtained to the proposed management arrangements for the use of of the parking areas outside core operating areas”.
Please provide a copy of the written confirmation duly provided together with any conditions imposed pursuant to that consent as to the management arrangements?
______________________________________________________
I can see that we provided a response : "We don’t have any record of the management plan referred to - the information is not held. Planning and Parking will take the matter forward."
As the matter - the issue - was passed to Planning and Parking, I had no further dealings with the case as we had moved on from the FOI.
I will ask them to look into this again.
Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]
Gwefan http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk
Website http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk
Hi’ neu ‘hi’ ydy’r rhagenwau i / My pronouns are ‘she’ and ‘her’
Dysgwr
Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg. Byddwn yn ymateb i unrhyw ohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at unrhyw oedi.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to any correspondence in Welsh which will not lead to a delay.
Dear Kerry,
Yes that’s the one.
I am Co-Event Director of the Old Railway Trail parkrun, Llangollen and occasions we have had difficulties clarifying with participants and our Team of Volunteers whether the public have any rights to park in the car parks on a Saturday mornings when our events take place. This can be particularly problematic when the Health Centre holds Vaccination Clinics and we have to marshal those car parks to prevent people causing issues for users of those clinics and of course the Pharmacy which is open on Saturday mornings.
We would simply like to know what has been agreed if any thing with the Health Board by your Planning Officers in compliance with Condition 8 of the Planning Permission referred to in my request?
Thank you
Yours sincerely,
Michael Edwards
Dear Mr Edwards
I have processed your request as a 'business as usual' request and have asked the Service to respond to myself. If their reply includes recorded information I will re-instate the request as an FOI. Your email is headed 'internal review', but so much time has elapsed that I have not recorded your email as that. (Requests for internal reviews should ideally be made within 40 working days of the response).
I will keep this diarised and will update you as soon as possible.
Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]
Gwefan http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk
Website http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk
Hi’ neu ‘hi’ ydy’r rhagenwau i / My pronouns are ‘she’ and ‘her’
Dysgwr
Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg. Byddwn yn ymateb i unrhyw ohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at unrhyw oedi.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to any correspondence in Welsh which will not lead to a delay.
Dear Mr Edwards
I apologise for the delay in responding to this email. This is the response from Planning:
Unfortunately, as the planning condition was imposed over 10 years ago this means the LPA cannot now enforce it. This rule applies as, if there have been no issues over that period, it is assumed the condition was not necessary.
This appears to be a civil matter between the landowner and any organisers of parkrun events.
We had hoped to obtain the view of the Traffic Manager, but he is now on leave until the 11th November.
Please let me know if you would like me to pursue the matter, or if you would like to submit any further FOI requests.
Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]
Gwefan http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk
Website http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk
Hi’ neu ‘hi’ ydy’r rhagenwau i / My pronouns are ‘she’ and ‘her’
Dysgwr
Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg. Byddwn yn ymateb i unrhyw ohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at unrhyw oedi.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to any correspondence in Welsh which will not lead to a delay.
Dear Kerry,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I request an internal review of Denbighshire County Council's handling of my FOI request 'Car park at Llangollen Health Centre'.
The Planning Officer imposed a condition in relation to car parking at the Health Centre in Llangollen and then failed over several years to follow up on this condition and to regulate the use of the car parks on either side of the building. This is causing increasing problems for the Pharmacy on weekends and also there is increasing unregulated use of the staff car park on weekends and particularly when the Health Board and GP Practice hold Vaccination Clinics. The Old Railway Trail parkrun which is held every Saturday morning( 72nd event last Saturday) discourages participants from parking at the Health Centre, but this is difficult to regulate when there is no clear definition of who can use the car park which is also used by people walking on the Nature Trail to and from Wenffryd Nature Reserve.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...
Yours Sincerely,
Michael W. Edwards
Co-Event Director
Old Railway Trail parkrun
Dear Mr Edwards
Your request is headed internal review , but because of the time which has
elapsed, any request for recorded information will be classed as a new
request. There is no request for recorded information in your email in the
chain below , so I have looked again at your original request.
On the 19th February, 2014 the Council granted planning permission for the
Health Centre and Pharmacy at Mill Street, Llangollen under code
03/2013/1374/PF.
Under Condition 8 it was stipulated that “the car park shall not be
brought into use until the written confirmation has been obtained to the
proposed management arrangements for the use of of the parking areas
outside core operating areas”.
Please provide a copy of the written confirmation duly provided together
with any conditions imposed pursuant to that consent as to the management
arrangements?
With our answer: ‘ We don’t have any record of the management plan
referred to - the information is not held’ It seems that the service may
have interpreted your request narrowly, only looking for a management
plan. I will therefore represent the request, albeit as a new request.
Your further emails, including the email below, are about the issue and
are not requests for recorded information, and therefore cannot be
considered under FOI. However, as before, I will ask the Services to look
into the matter again.
Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]
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ohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at unrhyw oedi.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to any correspondence
in Welsh which will not lead to a delay.
Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your recent request for information held by Denbighshire
County Council received 04/11/2024 regarding the Health Centre and
Pharmacy at Mill Street - car parking arrangements.
As set out by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 it will be our aim to
respond to your request by 02/12/2024. In some cases, however, we may be
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Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
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Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your request for information received
04/11/2024 concerning Health Centre and Pharmacy at Mill Street - car
parking arrangements. Please see the attached response.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact
me.
If you have any queries regarding this response, please do not hesitate to
contact me at the following address: Access to Information Officer, PO BOX
62, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin, LL15 9AZ or email [1][Denbighshire County
Council request email]. Alternatively, if you are unhappy with the way the
council has handled your request and wish to ask for internal review,
please contact the Legal Services Manager at the same address. If you are
subsequently not content with the outcome of the review, you have the
right to apply to the Information Commissioner whose address is Wycliffe
House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF. [2]www.ico.org.uk/foicomplaints
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Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]
Gwefan [3]http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk
Website [4]http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk
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Dysgwr
Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg. Byddwn yn ymateb i unrhyw
ohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at unrhyw oedi.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to any correspondence
in Welsh which will not lead to a delay.
Privacy Notice - what we will do with your details.
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Denbighshire County Council for the specific purposes of processing your
Freedom of Information Request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000,
or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. The Council will not
share the data with any other organisation. Denbighshire County Council
will retain the details for three years from the date that the request is
closed.
If you feel that Denbighshire County Council have mishandled your personal
data at any time you can make a complaint to the Information Commissioners
Office by visiting their website, or by calling their helpline on 0303 123
1113.
For further information about how Denbighshire County Council processes
personal data and your rights please see our privacy notice on our website
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Mae'r wybodaeth a gynhwysir yn yr e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a
drosglwyddir gydag o wedi eu bwriadu yn unig ar gyfer pwy bynnag y
cyfeirir ef ato neu atynt. Os ydych wedi derbyn yr e-bost hwn drwy
gamgymeriad, hysbyswch yr anfonwr ar unwaith os gwelwch yn dda. Mae
cynnwys yr e-bost yn cynrychioli barn yr unigolyn(ion) a enwir uchod ac
nid yw o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. Serch
hynny, fel Corff Cyhoeddus, efallai y bydd angen i Gyngor Sir Ddinbych
ddatgelu'r e-bost hwn [neu unrhyw ymateb iddo] dan ddarpariaethau
deddfwriaethol.
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they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please
notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail represents the
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the views of Denbighshire County Council. However, as a Public Body,
Denbighshire County Council may be required to disclose this e-mail [or
any response to it] under legislative provisions.
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4. http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/
5. http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/privacy
Dear Michael Edwards
Thank you for your request for information received 04/11/2024 concerning
the car parking arrangements at the Health Centre and Pharmacy at Mill
Street. I have received a further response from Traffic, which may assist:
We have searched our files and, unfortunately, we do not hold records of
any written confirmation regarding the management arrangements for the
Llangollen Health Centre car park. We also don’t hold any other documents
that detail either the operation or the management arrangements relating
to the car park.
At least two site meetings took place during the construction of the
Health Centre between Denbighshire County Council highway officers and a
representative from the Estates Department at Betsi Cadwaladr Health
Board. A number of different options were discussed and considered but
none of these were without problems and it was decided that the distance
from the staff car parks to the Town Centre meant that any usage by
visitors was likely to be fairly minimal. It was also reasoned that apart
from some occasional overlaps in demand (during the summer holidays for
example); the main demand for additional parking would occur at weekends
when the Health Centre is (normally) closed.
The problems described in previous correspondence seem to relate to
problems when weekend vaccination clinics are operated in the Health
Centre and for the pharmacy. As this is a car park owner by Betsi
Cadwaladr, there is nothing to prevent them from still seeking to regulate
parking as the owner of the site. This could include measures such as
limiting the maximum stay to an hour, with exemptions for staff, which
would presumably deter tourist visitor parking.
If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact
me.
If you have any queries regarding this response, please do not hesitate to
contact me at the following address: Access to Information Officer, PO BOX
62, Wynnstay Road, Ruthin, LL15 9AZ or email [1][Denbighshire County
Council request email]. Alternatively, if you are unhappy with the way the
council has handled your request and wish to ask for internal review,
please contact the Legal Services Manager at the same address. If you are
subsequently not content with the outcome of the review, you have the
right to apply to the Information Commissioner whose address is Wycliffe
House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9
5AF. [2]www.ico.org.uk/foicomplaints
The contents of this communication and any enclosed documents are subject
to copyright protection. It has been sent to you for your information and
you may use it for any private study and non-commercial research. The
information may also be used for the purposes of news reporting. Re-use
for commercial publication requires the permission of this Council.
Please do not hesitate to contact me for further advice or guidance
relating to the above.
Yours sincerely
Kerry Standen BA (Joint Hons) DipEcon
Swyddog Mynediad i Wybodaeth / Access to Information Officer
Cyngor Sir Ddinbych / Denbighshire County Council
Ffon / Tel: 01824 708242
E-bost:[email address]
E-mail:[email address]
Gwefan [3]http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk
Website [4]http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk
Hi’ neu ‘hi’ ydy’r rhagenwau i / My pronouns are ‘she’ and ‘her’
Dysgwr
Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg. Byddwn yn ymateb i unrhyw
ohebiaeth yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd hyn yn arwain at unrhyw oedi.
We welcome correspondence in Welsh. We will respond to any correspondence
in Welsh which will not lead to a delay.
Privacy Notice - what we will do with your details.
Your details, as given by you in your request, will be processed by
Denbighshire County Council for the specific purposes of processing your
Freedom of Information Request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000,
or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. The Council will not
share the data with any other organisation. Denbighshire County Council
will retain the details for three years from the date that the request is
closed.
If you feel that Denbighshire County Council have mishandled your personal
data at any time you can make a complaint to the Information Commissioners
Office by visiting their website, or by calling their helpline on 0303 123
1113.
For further information about how Denbighshire County Council processes
personal data and your rights please see our privacy notice on our website
–
[5]www.denbighshire.gov.uk/privacy
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Mae'r wybodaeth a gynhwysir yn yr e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a
drosglwyddir gydag o wedi eu bwriadu yn unig ar gyfer pwy bynnag y
cyfeirir ef ato neu atynt. Os ydych wedi derbyn yr e-bost hwn drwy
gamgymeriad, hysbyswch yr anfonwr ar unwaith os gwelwch yn dda. Mae
cynnwys yr e-bost yn cynrychioli barn yr unigolyn(ion) a enwir uchod ac
nid yw o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli barn Cyngor Sir Ddinbych. Serch
hynny, fel Corff Cyhoeddus, efallai y bydd angen i Gyngor Sir Ddinbych
ddatgelu'r e-bost hwn [neu unrhyw ymateb iddo] dan ddarpariaethau
deddfwriaethol.
The information contained in this e-mail message and any files transmitted
with it is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please
notify the sender immediately. The contents of this e-mail represents the
views of the individual(s) named above and do not necessarily represent
the views of Denbighshire County Council. However, as a Public Body,
Denbighshire County Council may be required to disclose this e-mail [or
any response to it] under legislative provisions.
References
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2. https://newsletter.ico.org.uk/c/1bedZlVe...
3. http://www.sirddinbych.gov.uk/
4. http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/
5. http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/privacy
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