Camden - Vehicle Provision

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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Camden Borough Council, from your recorded information, please provide the following:

The number of vehicles provided to all grades of administrative staff by your Council.
The annual cost of this provision for the most recently available financial year.
Confirmation that this provision registered with HMRC as a 'Benefit in Kind'.

I take this opportunity to again remind you of your obligation to the Nolan Principles.

Yours faithfully,

Pat James

Peter Williams, Camden Borough Council

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Camden Council - Information request (FOI/EIR) - Finance

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Dear Ms. James

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 - INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your recent Freedom of Information request received on 1
October 2016

You requested information on:

The number of vehicles provided to all grades of administrative staff by
your Council. The annual cost of this provision for the most recently
available financial year. Confirmation that this provision registered with
HMRC as a 'Benefit in Kind'.

I take this opportunity to again remind you of your obligation to the
Nolan Principles.

Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 and will be answered within twenty working days.

For your information, the Act defines a number of exemptions which may
prevent release of the information you have requested. There will be an
assessment and if any of the exemption categories apply then it will not
be released. You will be informed if this is the case.

If the information you request was obtained from or relates to a third
party then they may be consulted prior to a decision being taken on
whether or not to release the information to you.

In some cases there may a fee payable for the information requested. This
will be considered and you will be informed of the fee payable if this is
the case. In this event the fee must be paid before the information is
processed and released. The 20 day time limit for responses is put on hold
until receipt of the payment.

If you have any queries about this request do not hesitate to contact me.
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.

Yours sincerely

Information & Records Management Officer

Email: [1][Camden Borough Council request email]
Phone: 020 7974 7857

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Peter Williams, Camden Borough Council

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Camden Council - Information request (FOI/EIR) - Central team

Our reference: 20749389

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Dear Ms James

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 - INFORMATION REQUEST
Thank you for your recent Freedom of Information request received on 1
October 2016. You requested information on:

The number of vehicles provided to all grades of administrative staff by
your Council.
The annual cost of this provision for the most recently available
financial year.
Confirmation that this provision registered with HMRC as a 'Benefit in
Kind'.
From our preliminary assessment, it is clear that we will not be able to
answer your request without further clarification.

I require further information in order to identify and locate the
information you have asked for.

In particular, it would be useful to know:

Please could you clarify what you mean by:
"administrative staff"
"provide" Is this to perfomr their duties during Council hours? Please
explain the circumstances. 

Once you have clarified your request, I will be able to begin to process
your request. If I do not receive clarification within three months your
request will be considered to have lapsed. (Under section 1(3) of the
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), a public authority need not comply with
a request unless further information reasonably required to locate the
information is supplied).
 
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
 
If appropriate, the information may be provided in paper copy, normal font
size. If you require alternative formats, e.g. language, audio, large
print, etc. then please let me know.
 
For your information, the Act defines a number of exemptions which may
prevent release of the information you have requested. There will be an
assessment and if any of the exemption categories apply then it will not
be released. You will be informed if this is the case.
 
If the information you request was obtained from or relates to a third
party then they may be consulted prior to a decision being taken on
whether or not to release the information to you.
 
Under Section 12 of the Act, the Council is not obliged to provide the
information if the authority estimates that the costs of complying with
the request would exceed the appropriate limit set by the Freedom of
Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations
2004. The appropriate limit is currently £450 based on a charge at £25 per
hour. We, therefore, may not provide the information requested if the
costs of doing so exceeds the appropriate limit. The Council may however
request that the cost of providing the information is paid.
 
There may therefore, be a fee payable for this information. This will be
considered and you will be informed of the fee payable if this is the
case. In this event the fee must be paid before the information is
processed and released. The 20 day time limit for responses is put on hold
until receipt of the payment.
 
Yours sincerely

Peter Williams
Information and Records Management Officer

Email: [email address]
Phone: 020 7974 7857

Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Peter Williams, in response to your request for clarification:

ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF = people directly employed by your council, who are not engaged in manual labour, as part of their normal duty or job function, employed in any capacity from office clerk to chief executive.

PROVIDE = make available to another, by any means, conditional or unconditional.

I trust this satisfies your request, ever eager to assist.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Peter Williams, Camden Borough Council

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Camden Council - Information request (FOI/EIR) - Central team

Our reference: 20749389

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Dear Ms James,

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 - INFORMATION REQUEST
 
Thank you for your recent Freedom of Information request received on 01
October 2016.  You requested information on:

Dear Camden Borough Council, from your recorded information, please
provide the following:

The number of vehicles provided to all grades of administrative staff by
your Council.

The annual cost of this provision for the most recently available
financial year.

Confirmation that this provision registered with HMRC as a 'Benefit in
Kind'.

I take this opportunity to again remind you of your obligation to the
Nolan Principles.

You provided clarifion by email received on 03 October 2016:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF = people directly employed by your council, who are
not engaged in manual labour, as part of their normal duty or job
function, employed in any capacity from office clerk to chief executive.

PROVIDE = make available to another, by any means, conditional or
unconditional.
 
 It has become clear that we will not be able to answer your request
without further clarification. 
 
I require further information in order to identify and locate the
information you have asked for. 
In particular, it would be useful to know:

We have identified some vehicles that may potentially all within the scope
of your request:

1. Environmental Operations

X1 transit van operated by x1 staff to monitor public toilets/arrange
repairs and to deliver consumables to x5 locations across the borough

X1 VW Transporter operated by x2 staff to monitor street markets, deliver
waste bags to stall holders carry out street trading exercises including
the confiscation of illegal goods

X2 VW caddies shared usage by x12 staff to monitor refuse/recycling
collections and street cleansing, will also assist on ad-hoc events/stalls
regarding recycling across the borough
 
All the above vehicles are principally used by street based officers whose
roles are approx. 30% admim 70% street based.  None of the ES drivers
claim any benefits from HMRC as a benefit.

2. Careline Telecare Service

Four Careline Telecare vehicles used by all the Careline team members to
respond to emergency callouts, installation of equipment etc.  All of the
vehicles are used for operational reasons, aand s such none of the drivers
claim any benefits from HMRC.

Please could you clarify which (if any) of the above fall within the scope
of your request. Also could you clarify what "annual cost (s)" your
request concerns - as part of of  the Council's fleet of vehicles (amongst
which costs are pooled) any such costs may be difficult to quantify for
individual vehicles.  
 
Once you have clarified your request, I will be able to begin to process
your request. If I do not receive clarification within three months your
request will be considered to have lapsed. (Under section 1(3) of the
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), a public authority need not comply with
a request unless further information reasonably required to locate the
information is supplied).
 
Please remember to quote the reference number above in any future
communications.
 
If appropriate, the information may be provided in paper copy, normal font
size. If you require alternative formats, e.g. language, audio, large
print, etc. then please let me know.
 
For your information, the Act defines a number of exemptions which may
prevent release of the information you have requested. There will be an
assessment and if any of the exemption categories apply then it will not
be released. You will be informed if this is the case.
 
If the information you request was obtained from or relates to a third
party then they may be consulted prior to a decision being taken on
whether or not to release the information to you.
 
Under Section 12 of the Act, the Council is not obliged to provide the
information if the authority estimates that the costs of complying with
the request would exceed the appropriate limit set by the Freedom of
Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations
2004. The appropriate limit is currently £450 based on a charge at £25 per
hour. We, therefore, may not provide the information requested if the
costs of doing so exceeds the appropriate limit. The Council may however
request that the cost of providing the information is paid.
 
There may therefore, be a fee payable for this information. This will be
considered and you will be informed of the fee payable if this is the
case. In this event the fee must be paid before the information is
processed and released. The 20 day time limit for responses is put on hold
until receipt of the payment.
 
Yours sincerely

Peter Williams
Information and Records Management Officer

Email: [email address]
Phone: 020 7974 7857

Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Peter Williams, I see your further request for clarification as an infantile atempt at obfuscation. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would understand the phrase 'benefit in kind' would indicate personal use and rule out any vehicles used exclusively to provide a public service,

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Peter Williams, your response indicates a clear case of obfuscation.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Peter Williams, to clarify; the scope of my request is restricted to vehicles where a modicum of private use is permitted.

Yours sincerely,

Pat James

Williams, Peter, Camden Borough Council



Thank you for your e-mail.

 

I am currently out of the office and my emails will not be read until my
return on Friday 30 December 2016.

 

Please forward any urgent information requests to [1][Camden Borough Council request email].

 

Yours sincerely

  

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London Borough of Camden
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Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Camden Borough Council, I write to remind you that this matter remains unresolved.

Yours faithfully,

Pat James

Pat James (Account suspended)

Dear Camden Borough Council,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Camden Borough Council's handling of my FOI request 'Camden - Vehicle Provision'.

Failure to provide a response.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/c...

Yours faithfully,

Pat James

Peter Williams, Camden Borough Council

Camden Council - Information request (FOI/EIR) - Central team

Our reference: 20749389

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Dear Ms James

Freedom of Information Act 2000
I apologise for seeking the clarifications.  This  was intended to make
sure we provided the information you wanted and was not intended to
delaying our response.

Just to clarify our responses, we have provided a list of the vehicles
that we have that you might be interested in although they do not fall
strictly within the scope of your request (as they are not provided to
administrative staff who never engage in manual labour):

1. Environmental Operations
X1 transit van operated by x1 staff to monitor public toilets/arrang
repairs and to deliver
consumables to x5 locations across the borough
X1 VW Transporter operated by x2 staff to monitor street markets, deliver
waste bags to stall
holders carry out street trading exercises including the confiscation of
illegal goods
X2 VW caddies shared usage by x12 staff to monitor refuse/recycling
collections and street
cleansing, will also assist on ad-hoc events/stalls regarding recycling
across the borough
All the above vehicles are principally used by street based officers whose
roles are approx. 30%
admim 70% street based. None of the ES drivers claim any benefits from
HMRC as a benefit.

2. Careline Telecare Service
Four Careline Telecare vehicles used by all the Careline team members to
respond to emergency
callouts, installation of equipment etc. All of the vehicles are used for
operational reasons, aand s
such none of the drivers claim any benefits from HMRC.

3. Camden Repairs
All vehicles in use by Camden Repairs as being engaged in the delivery of
repairs by manual
labour as part of their normal duty or job function.

We do not have vehicles that are provided to purely administrative
staff. Camden vehicles are not provided for any personal use so there
are no Benefit in Kind declarations. We are not able to calculate the
annual costs for administrative use as the vehicles are part of a pool and
used by workers whose role is only administrative in part.

I hope that is helpful to you.

Yours sincerely

Peter Williams
Information and Records Management Officer

Email: [email address]
Phone: 020 7974 7857

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