Camden: Leonard Cheshire, the Living Wage and fees for residential care for younger adults

Doug Paulley made this Freedom of Information request to Camden Borough Council

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Dear Camden Borough Council,

Leonard Cheshire Disability (LCD) claim that they would like to pay their carers the Living Wage but that they are not paid enough by social care funders such as yourself to do so.

I wonder if you could please tell me:

1) what representations Leonard Cheshire Disability (LCD) have made to the Council asking for increases in the fees paid for social care provided by them, in order to pay their carers the Living Wage.

2) Some idea as to the fees currently being paid by the Council to LCD for residential care, per resident per week. A range of fees or a set of anonymised figures of the fees perhaps. Other councils have opted to supply statistical median and range as they were concerned that individual fees could make it possible for people to have a guess at which residents had which fees.

3) Equivalent information for fees paid to other providers for residential care in care homes for people with physical impairments under the age of 65.

Thank you

Yours faithfully,

Doug Paulley

Stephen Carter, Camden Borough Council

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Camden Council - Information request (FOI/EIR) - Housing and adult social
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Our reference: 9934391

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Dear Mr. Paulley

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 - INFORMATION REQUEST

Thank you for your recent Freedom of Information request received on 30
January 2015

You requested information on:

Leonard Cheshire Disability (LCD) claim that they would like to pay their
carers the Living Wage but that they are not paid enough by social care
funders such as yourself to do so.

I wonder if you could please tell me:

1) what representations Leonard Cheshire Disability (LCD) have made to the
Council asking for increases in the fees paid for social care provided by
them, in order to pay their carers the Living Wage.

2) Some idea as to the fees currently being paid by the Council to LCD for
residential care, per resident per week. A range of fees or a set of
anonymised figures of the fees perhaps. Other councils have opted to
supply statistical median and range as they were concerned that individual
fees could make it possible for people to have a guess at which residents
had which fees.

3) Equivalent information for fees paid to other providers for residential
care in care homes for people with physical impairments under the age of
65.

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Dear Stephen Carter,

I wonder if you could please check the status of my request for information, and advise me as to a potential timescale for response? Responses should be sent "promptly" and in any case within 20 working days, so at the latest by 27 February 2015 but I haven't received it as yet.

I do appreciate the pressures on service providers, particularly during these times of enforced national stringency, but I would appreciate some idea as to when the information may be provided.

Yours sincerely,

Doug Paulley

Carter, Stephen, Camden Borough Council

Dear Mr Paulley

Apologies for the delay in our response. I have been in the Midlands owing to illness in the family. However, I have checked the case folder and can see nothing from the team. I have therefore reminded them that a response is due and that we are now in breach of the act/ As soon as they contact me I will update you with a timeframe

Best regards

Stephen Carter
Information & Records Management Officer

Telephone: 0207 974 4372

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Stephen Carter, Camden Borough Council

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Camden Council - Information request (FOI/EIR) - Housing and adult social
care

Our reference: 9934391

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Dear Mr. Paulley

Re: Freedom of Information Act 2000

Further to your email, received on 30 January 2015, we are pleased to
enclose the requested information.

 

You requested
I wonder if you could please tell me:

1) what representations Leonard Cheshire Disability (LCD) have made to the
Council asking for increases in the fees paid for social care provided by
them, in order to pay their carers the Living Wage.
Response:Leonard Cheshire Disability were sent a letter and cost matrix to
complete on the 3^rd of Dec 2014. They were given till the 9^th of January
2015 to complete if they felt the current fee Camden pays did not
sufficiently cover their costs. However, LCD wrote back to inform Camden
they would not be seeking an inflationary uplift this year.
2) Some idea as to the fees currently being paid by the Council to LCD for
residential care, per resident per week. A range of fees or a set of
anonymised figures of the fees perhaps. Other councils have opted to
supply statistical median and range as they were concerned that individual
fees could make it possible for people to have a guess at which residents
had which fees.
Response: We have only one customer with LCD for whom we are paying circa
£1,300 to £1,400 a week.

3) Equivalent information for fees paid to other providers for residential
care in care homes for people with physical impairments under the age of
65.

Response: We are unable to give you this information as the fees vary and
are dependent on the needs of the individuals, size of home, staffing and
location. We do not have set fees for residential care homes for people
with physical impairments under the age of 65.

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Yours sincerely

Stephen Carter
Information & Records Management Officer

Email: [email address]
Phone: 0207 974 4372
 
 

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Dear Stephen Carter,

Thank you.

In regards to Q3, I acknowledge that a number of factors are taken into consideration in calculating fees charged to residential care service providers, not least the needs of the person whose care is commissioned; and also the difficulties in comparing between different providers.

I wonder if you could still provide the range of fees paid though, please. I still would like to have some idea of the fees paid by the council for residential care provided to people under the age of 65 with physical impairments.

Thank you

Yours sincerely,

Doug Paulley

Carter, Stephen, Camden Borough Council

Dear Sir thank you for your email. I will forward it to the team who provided the data and reply to you asap

Best regards

Stephen Carter
Information & Records Management Officer

Telephone: 0207 974 4372

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Dear Carter, Stephen,

Thank you;

Have you any idea as to timescales as to when you will be able to provide a reply please?

Yours sincerely,

Doug Paulley

Carter, Stephen, Camden Borough Council

Dear Sir

Apologies for delay in response, I have been informed that Adult Social Care might hold the data you require. I emailed them to request this on 03/03 and I will chase them now to get you a time frame

regards

Stephen Carter
Information & Records Management Officer

Telephone: 0207 974 4372

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Carter, Stephen, Camden Borough Council

Dear Sir

Please see the data from our ASCIT team

The median, mean, max and min average weekly commitments for clients in residential care are as follows:

Mean: 826.80
Median: 787.91
Max: 2403.18
Min: 190.54

We hope that this helps

Best regards

Stephen Carter
Information & Records Management Officer

Telephone: 0207 974 4372

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Dear Carter, Stephen,

Thank you for the information.

Yours sincerely,

Doug Paulley

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