Birth certifcates to set off council tax debt

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Dear City of Edinburgh Council,

Can l use my birth certificate (security and a source of finance) in order to set off any liabilities l may have with the council?

Yours faithfully,

tommy

City of Edinburgh Council

Mr Tommy .

Our ref: 19651

Dear Mr .

Acknowledgement of Request

Subject: Birth certifcates to set off council tax debt

Thank you for your request for information of 08/07/2018 which was received on 08/07/2018. In your request you asked for the following;

Can l use my birth certificate (security and a source of finance) in order to set off any liabilities l may have with the council?

I am sorry but I am unable to progress your request as it is not valid under the legislation.

Under the regulations, you can ask for any kind of "recorded" information from a Scottish public authority ? however old the information is. That includes information recorded on: paper, computer files, including emails, video and microfiche. You can only ask for information that is recorded. For example, you cannot ask for someone's opinion that has not been put on record.

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Yours sincerely,

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Dear City of Edinburgh Council,

According to your records and recorded information. Within the last 10 years, how many people have used their persons birth certificates in order to set off any and all council liabilities?

Yours faithfully,

tommy

Information Rights Officer 2, City of Edinburgh Council

Dear Sir

The purpose of my request for clarification was that, in order to make a valid request, you must provide a name so that we can respond. As you have asked through "whatdotheyknow" your name does not appear on the email address.

Kind regards

Sue

Sue Brown | Information Rights Officer | Information Governance Unit | Strategy and Insight Division | Chief Executive | Tel 0131 529 7855 | Ext 37855 | [email address] | [email address]

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Dear Information Rights Officer 2,

Name? Tommy Wright,
Residence? private.
Email address? the word used for the email address isn't a name.

Yours sincerely,

tommy

Information Rights Officer 2, City of Edinburgh Council

Dear Mr Wright

Request for Clarification - Receipt

Subject: Birth certificates to set off council tax debt

Thank you for providing clarification on the above request for information of 08/07/2018. We will respond to your request within 20 working days. Please note that the statutory 20 working day deadline for responding to your request starts upon receipt of clarification. This means we have until 15/08/2018 to respond to your request.

To promote transparency and accountability, please note it is the Council’s policy to publish all request details and responses made under freedom of information legislation. This information will be made available through the Council’s website and will not include your personal details.

Further information about your rights and accessing information is available on our website at: www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Yours sincerely

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

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City of Edinburgh Council

Mr Tommy Wright

[FOI #496212 email]

Our ref: 19651

Dear Mr Wright

Request for Clarification

Subject: Birth certificates to set off council tax debt

Thank you for your request for information of 08/07/2018 in which you asked the following:

Can l use my birth certificate (security and a source of finance) in order to set off any liabilities l may have with the council?

Unfortunately, we cannot identify the information you have requested from the details you have provided. To help us meet your request, could you please provide the following:

When you say "set off any liabilities", can you provide further detail on what these might be? Is there a discount or exemption applied?

When you say "security and a source of finance" can you please provide further detail on the significance of this statement?

On receipt of these further details, we will respond to your request within 20 working days. Please note that the statutory 20 working day deadline for responding to your request does not start until we receive the requested clarification from you.

If we do not hear from you within 40 working days, we will assume that you are no longer seeking the information you have requested and we will take no further action.

If you wish to discuss further, please get in touch. Please quote the reference number above in any future communications.

Further information about your rights and accessing information is available on our website at: www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Yours sincerely,

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Dear City of Edinburgh Council,

1) By "setting off any liabilities", l mean any bills that's sent from the CORPORATION known as The City of Edinburgh Council to the PERSON (CORPORATE FICTION) in order for the living breathing, flesh and blood, human being to use their exemption (PERSONS BIRTH CERTIFICATE) to zero out or set off the liability.

2)By "security and a source of finance", l mean that the BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a financial instrument, a monetary contract created and exists between the human being and their PERSON (CORPORATE FICTION) in order to engage in commerce. The BIRTH CERTIFICATE is a security (worth a lot of money). And just as a BANKNOTE is a security and a source of finance? So too is a BIRTH CERTIFICATE a security and a source of finance.
l do believe that Dr. Paul Pharms,PhD, and other experts have proved that the BIRTH CERTIFICATE is essentially a BANKNOTE.

Q. According to your records and recorded information. Within the last 10 years, how many people have used their PERSONS BIRTH CERTIFICATES in order to set off any and all council liabilities? Or gain the exemption or discounts for any and all liabilities from the council by using the BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

l'm pretty sure you can easily use and let excel do the calculation for you.

Yours faithfully,

tommy

Information Rights Officer 2, City of Edinburgh Council

Dear Mr Wright

Request for Clarification - Receipt

Subject: Birth certificates to set off council tax debt

Thank you for providing clarification on the above request for information of 08/07/2018. We will respond to your request within 20 working days. Please note that the statutory 20 working day deadline for responding to your request starts upon receipt of clarification. This means we have until 22/08/2018 to respond to your request.

To promote transparency and accountability, please note it is the Council’s policy to publish all request details and responses made under freedom of information legislation. This information will be made available through the Council’s website and will not include your personal details.

Further information about your rights and accessing information is available on our website at: www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Yours sincerely

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

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City of Edinburgh Council

Mr Tommy Wright

[FOI #496212 email]

Our ref: 19651

Dear Mr Wright

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 - Release of Information

Subject: Birth certificates to set off council tax debt

Thank you for your request for information of 08/07/2018 which has been processed and considered under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. The information is provided below.

Q1. According to your records and recorded information. Within the last 10 years, how many people have used their PERSONS BIRTH CERTIFICATES in order to set off any and all council liabilities? Or gain the exemption or discounts for any and all liabilities from the council by using the BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

A1. None

Q2. Can l use my birth certificate (security and a source of finance) in order to set off any liabilities l may have with the council?

A2. No

To promote transparency and accountability, please note it is the Council’s policy to publish all request details and responses made under the freedom of information legislation. This information will be made available through the Council’s website and will not include your personal details. The disclosure log is available at the following link: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/homepage/175....

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Yours sincerely,

Sue Brown
Information Rights Officer

Information Governance Unit
Level 2:1, Waverley Court, Edinburgh EH8 8BG Tel 0131 200 2340
[email address] www.edinburgh.gov.uk

Dear City of Edinburgh Council,

Q1. If such an event did occur, would the council inform me and the public of this?

Q2. Why not? The BIRTH CERTIFICATE is essentially a BANKNOTE representing a source of finance so l don't see why the council wouldn't want to gain payment via the BIRTH CERTIFICATE and any other securities.

Yours faithfully,

tommy

Information Rights, City of Edinburgh Council

Dear Sir

Under the legislation, you can ask for any kind of "recorded" information from a Scottish public authority, you cannot ask for someone's opinion that has not been put on record. Details of what you can ask for and how can be found on the Scottish Information Commissioner's website: http://www.itspublicknowledge.info/YourR....

In addition, the whatdotheyknow website offers some very useful tips on making requests. This can be viewed at the following link: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/help/requ...

I do not consider this to be a valid request for information.

Kind regards

Sue

Sue Brown | Information Rights Officer | Information Governance Unit | Strategy and Insight Division | Chief Executive | Tel 0131 529 7855 | Ext 37855 | [email address] | [email address]

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tommy left an annotation ()

My hobby is law, especially commercial law. l'm obsessed with this area, concept and the study of money. l know what exactly money is and isn't. All money is securities and securities have a wide definition. Birth certificates hold more value than numbers on a piece of paper and the banks have admitted that the paper aren't backed by gold nor silver. l don't believe the responses at all and the truth is more simple than one thinks.

michael john left an annotation ()

Tommy like you im learning in regard to the council tax ,you should ask them why your unique CT refrence number corresponds with sort code 08-32-10
And many more .

It is also noted how the first 8 digits of most of my PERSONS unique referece numbers also correspond to sort code 08-32-10 wich HMRC state is barclays plc ,😂😂😂😂😂 its NOT , .https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www...

tommy left an annotation ()

And there's me thinking after l'd read my councils financial annual reports l thought exactly where the money went. So the money doesn't just go in to the 400 plus international corporations, banks, pension pots, investing in debts, and everything else l can't be bothered to write up in order to let people do the research themselves, and to ask the councils and their politicians what is going on.

Alan Smith left an annotation ()

The banknotes aren't backed by gold or silver and they are only worth the ink printed on the paper. However, the birth certificates are classed as securities which is ultimately a banknote that is probably worth billions. The birth certificate will and should set off any alleged debt anyone has in society because everything is prepaid with the labor of the people in that society. The only way a corporation can do business is if they have such documents which are classed as securities (money). All and any council should be accepting copies of the birth certificate as full and final payment of any alleged debt owed. However, we don't owe them as we aren't the debtors. The council are the debtors and we the people are the creditors. Bill of exchange act. Gold standard act. They are dipping into the accounts and not telling the public.

Gary of the Testo family left an annotation ()

Hello Tommy and Alan. Awesthe job boys, might have a few crumbs for you to follow re BC and the "Substance" mentioned in Tommys other request.

Securities trading is regulated by SEC and other nations have codified regulations, including treasury codes.

There is no gold or silver backing the currency, only our equity (labour) and credit (future equity). So its about extracting OUR substance cos there's none behind the banknotes.

The Birth Notification 1 form (BNF1) is filled out by midwife, has your foot print on it (your evidence of birthright) and is sent to the registrar. A week later your parents (now rendered custodial parents) receive the BC, a certificate. Something (the BNF 1) was "Deposited" with the registrar who produced a "certificate" thereby resulting in a "certificated deposit" (a form of security). Not the BC itself, but a trinity of the object (birthright, has value) placed into trust (secured) and this covenant/"Settlement" (settlement: a trust of land) is certificated.

If you've heard about 'Treasury Accounts", variously referred to as "securities accounts" or 'treasury direct accounts", then direct your attention to 31 CFR 363. These codes outlay how "Minor accounts" exist in the name and Social security (NINO) number of a minor. That a minor us someone under 18 or someone over 18 who "has not yet claimed control of the securities in his or her minor account". A Treasury Direct account is a " portal" used by a "Securities intermediary" (transferring bank re utilities, or fiduciary agent who may be appointed by a court) to administrate the minor account for the benefit of the minor.

Side note: these minor accounts contain a "zero percent certificate of indebtedness" defined as a financial instrument which instantly matures and rolls over each day. And a "Definitive Bond" . elsewhere in the CFR codes you will read that "Currency is issued in series Against Definitive bonds". So does the gov set up these minor accounts for us, everyone with a definitive bond so when you access YOUr credit (future sweat equity) its issued against your definitive bond? Passes trough the intermediary and realised as cash/inflation....misold to you as a " loan" and taxation applied to remove the inflationary burden?

Here's the interesting bit. Whilst the minor is under 18 the fiduciary agent can "buy, sell and REDEEM" the securities using the 'minor account' for the benefit of the minor. (Ie drawing down/redeeming the interest on the securities held in the child's minor account).
However, once the Minor is over 18, the fiduciary's can only buy and sell securities from the minors account.....not redeem them, at least without the authorisation of the minor.

So as I see it, and like you Tommy I'm trying to figure this out, take the context of utility bills to cover what is essentially a "public debt" that no one should be paying for with their private wealth (utilities were after all promised under UN conventions).

As Alan points out re the Sort Code, you can use a account/sort code verifier to track your minor account. You will find that the Transferring Bank handling your utilities has a sort code, use that sortcode and check if the bank has an account in your NI number (you will find instructions on forums) you will find it does. So in the context of the above CFR treasury codes- the utility company sends you a paper BGC (Bank Gio Credit - re your other request. Edinbirough council admitted they accept "debit/direct debit" non cash payments. This is the same "Giro system" but done electronically) which is an inchoate instrument giving the bearer (you) implied authority to complete it. Ellingers on modern banking law : a BGC can be executed as either a cheque or bill of exchange however the drawer has a mandate to provide instruction to the transferring bank as to from where to "remit the funds"

Hmrc def of remittance: a payment of "interest on offshore accounts and interests", paid into the UK.

So when funds are drawn down from these minor accounts (offshore accounts and interests, containing interest bearing securities?!) a and released into society is that a a " remmitance"?

So put it together. Gov have assigned utility corp certain rights to claim a disbursement from an estate trust with corresponding minor account, the transferring bank acting as intermediary is accessing this account to buy and sell securities (bills? Pledges) in your name (security details, lol) but can't redeem them. The bank needs our authorisation. The utility company sends an instrument which allows us to do this, but none of this is explained.

"Payment" in a bankruptcy means "transfer of title to assets held in trust". So if these securities are held in trust, and generate interest which every gov agency/corporation is trying to access either through us or our representatives, then they need us to " PAY" them, ie transfer title to assets held in trust by authorising our fiduciaries (transferring banks etc) to 'remit' the interest on securities from these minor accounts and transfer them to the utility.

This appears, to me at least, to be some of the mechanics behind this system. We use the BGC as a "paying in slip", but instead of sending an accompanying cheque, we provide instruction to the transferring bank to 'remit' the funds from that minor account they're holding in our names and transfer the funds to the utility. This allows the securities intermediary to " redeem" and transfer to the utility at our direction, a portion of the interest on the securities in our minor accounts (presumably the back rent were all owed from all these companies operating on OUR land, and which is owed to us in our original capacities as Donors of the Land.......a capacity which appears to have been killed off by the CQV act of 1666 under which everything were owed is "looked after" until we return from the sea. Rather than recognise our original capacity as donor/creditor beneficiaries, the system offers us a post as unpaid conscripted agents/transmitting utilities for the trusts into which our estates are placed, granting legal title/custodianship to gov, allowing them to dispense orders to their conscripted agents reversing the master servant role making us "Donee beneficiaries" trying to make us liable as sureties for their own administrative duties and bankruptcy.

I've ranted enough now. Lol. Get me on fb if interested in discussing research. This lot will never admit it for two main reasons:
1 either no "one" knows due to compartmentalisation and so can't help you.
2 anyone who does know can clearly see this is slavery by proxy (extraction if ppls sweat equity) via control of legal title over our Birthrights, constituting the deposit/pledge to central banks for the use of their worthless intellectual copyright.