Anglesey Council - Landowner
Dear Isle of Anglesey Council, in pursuance of a civil litigation for failure to pay a parking charge or fine imposed by your council, please identify the party litigant by name (man or woman) who is the land owner (of public property) claiming tort against the defendant as defined in CPR.
This is not a request for legal advice, it is a request for fact of law
I also remind you of your duties and obligations to the Nolan Principles.
Yours faithfully,
Pat James
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Beryl Jones
Swyddog Gwybodaeth Corfforaethol a Chwynion – Adain Gyfreithiol, Cyngor Sir Ynys Môn
Corporate Information and Complaints Officer- Legal Section, Isle of Anglesey County Council
Dear Pat James,
I have been asked to contact you to clarify your request:-
Please confirm that you are asking for the following information:-
Is the Council aware of whether any owner of land in its area, which is also a 'pay and display' public car park, sues for trespass any owner of a vehicle who has parked there in breach of the rules? If so, identify them.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
Beryl Jones
Swyddog Gwybodaeth Corfforaethol a Chwynion – Adain Gyfreithiol, Cyngor Sir Ynys Môn
Corporate Information and Complaints Officer- Legal Section, Isle of Anglesey County Council
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Dear FOI, I am unable to clarify in respect of your clarification as I cannot comprehend its requirement.
It is ny understanding that failure to pay a parking fine of any sort, is claimed as a tort for an alleged breach of an implied contract. As the claim of tort can only be made by the land owner (man or Woman)by suffering loss or harm. My simple request is that the man or woman who is the owner of the land known as council land or public land be identified. You will of course be aware that the Council (being a corporate 'dead entity) cannot make a claim as it has no life.
Yours sincerely,
Pat James
Dear Sir/Madam,
I refer to your Freedom of Information request dated the 12^th January,
2017.
Please find below the Authority’s response to your request:-
Question:-
Dear Isle of Anglesey Council, in pursuance of a civil litigation for
failure to pay a parking charge or fine imposed by your council, please
identify the party litigant by name (man or woman) who is the land owner
(of public property) claiming tort against the defendant as defined in
CPR.
This is not a request for legal advice, it is a request for fact of law
I also remind you of your duties and obligations to the Nolan Principles.
Answer:-
The County Council, being a creature of statute, must have statutory
authority to undertake activities and so could not claim a fee for parking
unless there was statutory authority to do so hence all council owned car
parks are designated under the relevant legislation, being the Road
Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
The information supplied to you in response to your request is the
copyright of the Isle of Anglesey County Council. The information has
been provided for your personal use and may not be copied, distributed,
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without the explicit written consent of the Isle of Anglesey County
Council.
If you are dissatisfied with any aspect of this response to your request
for information and/or the decision made to withhold information, you may
ask for an internal review. Please address your correspondence to the
Customer Care Officer, Legal Services, Council Offices, Llangefni, Ynys
Môn, LL77 7TW (e-mail: [1][email address]).
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right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner, Wycliffe House,
Water Lane, Wilmslow SK9 5AF. Please note that the Information
Commissioner is likely to expect internal review procedures to have been
exhausted before beginning his investigation.
Yours faithfully,
Helen Jeffery
Swyddog Gofal Cwsmer / Customer Care Officer
Priffyrdd, Gwastraff ac Eiddo / Highways, Waste and Property
Cyngor Sir Ynys Môn / Isle of Anglesey County Council
LLANGEFNI
Ynys Môn / Anglesey
LL77 7TW
Rhif Ffôn /Tel. No: (01248) 752356
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Mae'r neges e-bost hon a'r ffeiliau a drosglwyddyd ynghlwm gyda hi yn
gyfrinachol ac efallai bod breintiau cyfreithiol ynghlwm wrthynt. Yr unig
berson sydd 'r hawl i'w darllen, eu copio a'u defnyddio yw'r person y
bwriadwyd eu gyrru nhw ato. Petaech wedi derbyn y neges e-bost hon mewn
camgymeriad yna, os gwelwch yn dda, rhowch wybod i'r Rheolwr Systemau yn
syth gan ddefnyddio'r manylion isod, a pheidiwch datgelu na chopio'r
cynnwys i neb arall.
Mae cynnwys y neges e-bost hon yn cynrychioli sylwadau'r gyrrwr yn unig ac
nid o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli sylwadau Cyngor Sir Ynys Mon. Mae
Cyngor Sir Ynys Mon yn cadw a diogelu ei hawliau i fonitro yr holl
negeseuon e-bost trwy ei rwydweithiau mewnol ac allanol.
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Dear Helen Jeffery, please state where in your response, there is any relevance to my request?
Your response:
The County Council, being a creature of statute, must have statutory authority to undertake activities and so could not claim a fee for parking unless there was statutory authority to do so hence all council owned car parks are designated under the relevant legislation, being the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
My request:
in pursuance of a civil litigation for failure to pay a parking charge or fine imposed by your council, please identify the party litigant by name (man or woman) who is the land owner (of public property) claiming tort against the defendant as defined in CPR.
This is not a request for legal advice, it is a request for fact of law
I also remind you of your duties and obligations to the Nolan Principles.
My request concerns the process of Civil Law (i.e. Torts) and has nothing to do with acts and statutes concerning traffic legislation.
If you do not comprehend the distinction you are not qualified to make a credible response in this matter.
Yours sincerely,
Pat James
Dear Sir,
Further to your email message sent on the 25^th January, 2017 - "please
state where in your response, there is any relevance to my request?" I
respond as follows:-
You asked "in pursuance of a civil litigation for failure to pay a
parking charge or fine imposed by your council, please identify the party
litigant by name (man or woman) who is the land owner (of public property)
claiming tort against the defendant as defined in CPR"
The parking charge or fine imposed by the Council is authorised by
legislation - it is not claimed as damages for trespass.
Therefore, there is no "name" other than "the Council" that can be
provided to you.
I trust that this explains the situation.
If you are dissatisfied with any aspect of this response to your request
for information and/or the decision made to withhold information, you may
ask for an internal review. Please address your correspondence to the
Customer Care Officer, Legal Services, Council Offices, Llangefni, Ynys
Môn, LL77 7TW (e-mail: [1][email address]).
If you are not content with the outcome of an internal review you have the
right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner, Wycliffe House,
Water Lane, Wilmslow SK9 5AF. Please note that the Information
Commissioner is likely to expect internal review procedures to have been
exhausted before beginning his investigation.
Yours faithfully,
Helen Jeffery
Swyddog Gofal Cwsmer / Customer Care Officer
Priffyrdd, Gwastraff ac Eiddo / Highways, Waste and Property
Cyngor Sir Ynys Môn / Isle of Anglesey County Council
LLANGEFNI
Ynys Môn / Anglesey
LL77 7TW
Rhif Ffôn /Tel. No: (01248) 752356
E-bost/E-mail: [2][email address]
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Mae'r neges e-bost hon a'r ffeiliau a drosglwyddyd ynghlwm gyda hi yn
gyfrinachol ac efallai bod breintiau cyfreithiol ynghlwm wrthynt. Yr unig
berson sydd 'r hawl i'w darllen, eu copio a'u defnyddio yw'r person y
bwriadwyd eu gyrru nhw ato. Petaech wedi derbyn y neges e-bost hon mewn
camgymeriad yna, os gwelwch yn dda, rhowch wybod i'r Rheolwr Systemau yn
syth gan ddefnyddio'r manylion isod, a pheidiwch datgelu na chopio'r
cynnwys i neb arall.
Mae cynnwys y neges e-bost hon yn cynrychioli sylwadau'r gyrrwr yn unig ac
nid o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli sylwadau Cyngor Sir Ynys Mon. Mae
Cyngor Sir Ynys Mon yn cadw a diogelu ei hawliau i fonitro yr holl
negeseuon e-bost trwy ei rwydweithiau mewnol ac allanol.
Croeso i chi ddelio gyda’r Cyngor yn Gymraeg neu’n Saesneg. Cewch yr un
safon o wasanaeth yn y ddwy iaith.
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Dear Isle of Anglesey Council,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Isle of Anglesey Council's handling of my FOI request 'Anglesey Council - Landowner'.
Your ignorance of the law in these matters precludes you from making a credible response. The request refers to a civil action which is man v man,
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/a...
Yours faithfully,
Pat James
Dear Pat James,
Please see attached letter confirming that your request for an internal review has been registered.
Regards
Beryl Jones
Swyddog Gwybodaeth Corfforaethol a Chwynion – Adain Gyfreithiol, Cyngor Sir Ynys Môn
Corporate Information and Complaints Officer- Legal Section, Isle of Anglesey County Council
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Dear Pat James,
Please see attached result of the Internal Review held this day.
Regards
Beryl Jones
Swyddog Gwybodaeth Corfforaethol a Chwynion
Corporate Information & Complaints Officer
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Mae'r neges e-bost hon a'r ffeiliau a drosglwyddyd ynghlwm gyda hi yn
gyfrinachol ac efallai bod breintiau cyfreithiol ynghlwm wrthynt. Yr unig
berson sydd 'r hawl i'w darllen, eu copio a'u defnyddio yw'r person y
bwriadwyd eu gyrru nhw ato. Petaech wedi derbyn y neges e-bost hon mewn
camgymeriad yna, os gwelwch yn dda, rhowch wybod i'r Rheolwr Systemau yn
syth gan ddefnyddio'r manylion isod, a pheidiwch datgelu na chopio'r
cynnwys i neb arall.
Mae cynnwys y neges e-bost hon yn cynrychioli sylwadau'r gyrrwr yn unig ac
nid o angenrheidrwydd yn cynrychioli sylwadau Cyngor Sir Ynys Mon. Mae
Cyngor Sir Ynys Mon yn cadw a diogelu ei hawliau i fonitro yr holl
negeseuon e-bost trwy ei rwydweithiau mewnol ac allanol.
Croeso i chi ddelio gyda’r Cyngor yn Gymraeg neu’n Saesneg. Cewch yr un
safon o wasanaeth yn y ddwy iaith.
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legally privileged. They may be read copied and used only by the intended
recipient. If you have received this email in error please immediately
notify the system manager using the details below, and do not disclose or
copy its contents to any other person.
The contents of this email represent the views of the sender only and do
not necessarily represent the views of Isle of Anglesey County Council.
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communications through its internal and external networks.
You are welcome to deal with the Council in Welsh or English. You will
receive the same standard of service in both languages.
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Dear Beryl Jones,you seem to have my request mixed with that of another, which would go some way to explain the nonsence of your responses
Yours sincerely,
Pat James
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