'Alpha' and 'Beta' radiation levels.

Ministry of Defence did not have the information requested.

Dear Ministry of Defence,

I have recently received the 'Gamma' radiation levels (graph ES1/602) recorded at ground zero after Atomic bombs 'Pennant' and 'Burgee were detonated in 1958.

Could you please supply the levels of 'ALPHA' and 'BETA'radiation recorded at Ground Zero during the first few hours after detonation of Pennant and Burgee?

Due to the nature of 'Alpha' radiation, it is appreciated it may not have been able to record the radiation levels. This will not be the case for the 'Beta' records, and I look forward to receiving a comprehensive reply.

Yours faithfully,

Dave Whyte

DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

 

Dear Mr Whyte

 

Thank you for your email of 26 June 2012 requesting the following
information:

 

I have recently received the 'Gamma' radiation levels (graph ES1/602)
recorded at ground zero after Atomic bombs 'Pennant' and     'Burgee were
detonated in 1958.

    

Could you please supply the levels of 'ALPHA' and 'BETA'radiation recorded
at Ground Zero during the first few hours after detonation of Pennant and
Burgee?

    

Due to the nature of 'Alpha' radiation, it is appreciated it may not have
been able to record the radiation levels. This will not be      the case
for the 'Beta' records, and I look forward to receiving a comprehensive
reply.

 

Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of
Information Act and will be answered within twenty working days. We will,
therefore, write to you again by 20 July 2012 with either a substantive
response or an update on your request.

 

If you have any queries about this request, please don not hesitate to
contact us. Please remember to quote reference number
25-06-2012-111446-008 in any future communications.

 

Regards

 

DES Policy Secretariat

    

 

 

 

 

DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Please find the attached letter.

Dear DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER),

Thank you for your reply. Could you please advise who does hold the information requested?

If, as I suspect, this information is held by the AWE would you please give them permission to release the requested information.

Yours sincerely,

Dave Whyte

DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

Dear Mr Whyte

Thank you for your email, which I have passed onto the case officer
responsible for dealing with your recent Freedom of Information request.

Regards
DE&S Policy Secretariat

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DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

Dear Mr Whyte

 

Thank you for your email dated 23 July 2012. Further to our letter of the
same date, I am writing to confirm that we consulted with AWE, to look
into whether they hold information on behalf of this Department. AWE has
conducted a thorough search of their records and holds no information
which falls within the scope of your request.

 

I hope explains the situation.

 

Regards

 

DE&S Policy Secretariat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER),

Thank you for your reply, which again avoids answering the question. The question was 'Who holds the information regarding the Alpha and Beta radiation levels at ground zero for the first five hours after Atomic bomb detonations Pennant and Burgee in 1958?

I had a personal issue QFE dosimeter which read 5r/h (beta radiation)for both bombs. The Ministry of Defence have informed me the levels could not have been this high, if this is the case the information to dispute my figures must be available somewhere. Perhaps I am being told more lies like: 'Not having the records of Gamma radiation.' After six years of denial they were discovered after a First Tier Tribunal had been held.

This information was vital to the nuclear trials and would not have been destroyed. Please inform me who holds the information I have requested.

Yours sincerely,

Dave Whyte

DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

 

Dear Mr Whyte

 

Thank for your email of today, in which you specially ask “Who holds the
information regarding the Alpha and Beta radiation levels at ground zero
for the first five hours after Atomic bomb detonations Pennant and Burgee
in 1958”?.

 

As you have asked a new question, we will be treating this as a new
Freedom of Information (FOI) request and, as such, it will be answered in
accordance with the FOI Act.  The reference number of this new request is
30-07-2012-123443-001.

 

Regards

 

DE&S Policy Secretariat

 

 

margaret left an annotation ()

Few years to go yet before the last of those responsible have perished.
So long as any remain you will be fobbed off.
The scientists and service officers liable born c.1927-30 are likely still alive and vulnerable.
Assuming you'll live long enough ,you might get to the bottom of this dreadful, underhand, period of British history

Dave Whyte left an annotation ()

Thank you Margaret,

You will notice everything they do is to delay time, they are hoping that we will all die off then they will say, "We never found anything!" I am keeping a record of everything and there are three generations of 'blood relatives' to carry on my fight. The MOD made sure I was unable to have any family of my own.

The MOD make their own rules as they go along, they are duty bound to say who holds the information if they do not have it, but they can delay even further by saying it is now a new question.

Perhaps I should not have said 'Question.' Recently one of the bright bunch stated they were not here to answer questions. I am still stumped as to what to call them: FOI ?????? what are they if not questions?

Dear DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER),
Under the terms of the FOI Act, information on who holds the information should have been offered when you stated you did not have it.

Yours sincerely,

Dave Whyte

DES SEC-PolSecShips and Subs (MULTIUSER), Ministry of Defence

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Dear Mr Whyte,

 

Please find attached a response to your request reference number
30-07-2012-123443-001.

 

 

Regards

 

DE&S Policy Secretariat

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