Agreements for outside legal services
Dear Information Commissioner’s Office,
Please disclose all current agreements for provision of legal services by outside bodies such as barristers chambers, law firms etc. This should include the rates of pay agreed.
Yours faithfully,
Edward Williams
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Dear Information Commissioner's Office,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Information Commissioner's Office's handling of my FOI request 'Agreements for outside legal services'.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/a...
Yours faithfully,
Edward Williams
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more information please visit:
[1]https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/our-inf...
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an initial response and case reference number within 30 days.
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personal information, we will not usually look into it unless you have
raised it with the organisation first. For more information please see our
webpage ‘raising a concern with an organisation’ (go to our homepage and
follow the link ‘for the public’). You can also call the number below.
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7 June 2019
Case Reference Number IRQ0821674
Dear E Williams
Thank you for your request for information. We received your request on 19
February.
We have considered your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
(FOIA).
Please accept my apologies for the delay in the response to your request.
Your request was received at a time the ICO is experiencing a high demand
for its services. Our records show that in the financial year 2018 - 2019
the number of information requests handled by the ICO was approximately
54% higher than in the previous financial year.
Your request
‘Please disclose all current agreements for provision of legal services by
outside bodies such as barristers chambers, law firms etc. This should
include the rates of pay agreed.’
Our response
I can confirm that we hold information that falls in the scope of your
request.
The information we hold about our external legal costs have been withheld.
The information engages the exemption at section 43 of the FOIA which is
about prejudice to commercial interests. We consider the disclosure of
this information would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of
both us and our external legal counsel.
The ICO’s guidance on what constitutes a commercial interest states:-
“A commercial interest relates to a person’s ability to participate
competitively in a commercial activity.”
FOIA Section 43 states:
“Information is exemption information if its disclosure under this Act
would, or would be likely to, prejudice the commercial interests of any
person (including the public authority holding it).”
For your information a person may be an individual, a company, the public
authority itself or any other legal entity.
This is a qualified exemption and requires that we carry out a public
interest test. Where a public authority is satisfied that the release of
the information requested would prejudice someone’s commercial interests,
it can only refuse to provide the information if it is satisfied that the
public interest in withholding the information outweighs the public
interest in disclosing it.
In this particular case we consider that the factors in favour of
disclosing this information are:
* Promoting accountability and transparency in the spending of public
money and the way the ICO conducts its business.
The factors for maintaining the exemption and withholding the information
are:
* The public interest in the ICO being able to negotiate and secure
counsel engagement on terms which secure the best value for the public
purse, without prejudicing its commercial interests or the commercial
interests of legal advisors it wishes to engage.
* The disclosure of the fee paid to counsel in respect of cases would be
likely to prejudice their ability and the ability of other counsel’s
engaged by the ICO to negotiate with other clients about fees and as
such would likely harm their commercial interests.
We consider that in all the circumstances the public interest in
maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing this
information.
FOIA Section 40(2)
We also consider that information within the scope of your request is
personal data about the barristers concerned which falls within the scope
of the Data Protection Act 2018 (DPA).
This information is exempt from disclosure under section 40(2) by virtue
of section 40(3A)(a) which is the exemption under FOIA concerning personal
information. Section 40(2) exempts information in response to a request if
it is personal data belonging to an individual other than yourself and it
satisfies one of the conditions listed in the legislation (Amendments to
the Freedom of Information Act 2000 contained in the Data Protection Act
2018). The condition contained in section 40(3A)(a) applies – that
disclosure would breach one of the data protection principles. The
principle is that:
“Personal data shall be processed lawfully, fairly, and in a transparent
manner….” (GDPR EU2016, Article 5(1)(a)).
We do not consider that disclosing this information to you, and
consequently the public, is necessary or justified in order to satisfy
your information request and the requirements of the FOIA. In the
circumstances of this request there is no strong legitimate interest that
would override the prejudice to the rights and freedoms of the data
subjects. We have therefore taken the decision that disclosing this
information to you would be unlawful.
This concludes our response.
Next steps
I hope this response is clear. If you would like me to clarify anything
about the way your request has been handled please contact me.
You can ask us to review the way we have handled your request. Please see
a link to our review procedure
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Following our internal review, if you remain dissatisfied with the way we
have handled your request, there is a statutory complaints process and you
can report your concern to the regulator. I have included information
about how to do this separately.
Yours sincerely,
Sarah Whelan
Senior Information Access Officer
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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Dear Information Commissioner's Office,
Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.
I am writing to request an internal review of Information Commissioner's Office's handling of my FOI request 'Agreements for outside legal services'.
You got the pibt wrong.
A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/a...
Yours faithfully,
Edward Williams
Thank you for contacting the Information Commissioner’s Office. We confirm
that we have received your correspondence.
If you have made a request for information held by the ICO we will contact
you as soon as possible if we need any further information to enable us to
answer your request. If we don't need any further information we will
respond to you within our published, and statutory, service levels. For
more information please visit:
[1]https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/our-inf...
If you have raised a new information rights concern - we aim to send you
an initial response and case reference number within 30 days.
If you are concerned about the way an organisation is handling your
personal information, we will not usually look into it unless you have
raised it with the organisation first. For more information please see our
webpage ‘raising a concern with an organisation’ (go to our homepage and
follow the link ‘for the public’). You can also call the number below.
If you have requested advice - we aim to respond within 14 days.
If your correspondence relates to an existing case - we will add it to
your case and consider it on allocation to a case officer.
Copied correspondence - we do not respond to correspondence that has been
copied to us.
For more information about our services, please see our webpage ‘Service
standards and what to expect' (go to our homepage and follow the links for
‘Report a concern’ and ‘Service standards and what to expect'). You can
also call the number below.
For information about what we do with personal data see our [2]privacy
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If there is anything you would like to discuss with us, please call our
helpline on 0303 123 1113.
Yours sincerely
The Information Commissioner’s Office
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Jonathan Baines left an annotation ()
Before one even gets on to the public interest balancing test, this response fails to explain *why* prejudice would be likely to occur. This is such a fundamental issue that ICO has a whole piece of guidance devoted to the steps a public authority should take to rely on such an exemption: https://ico.org.uk/media/for-organisatio...
18 June 2019
Case Reference Number RCC0851770
Dear E Williams
Thank you for your correspondence dated 7 June 2019.
This correspondence will now be treated as a request for an internal
review of the response we provided to your recent request for information
under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
We will aim to respond by 5 July 2019 which is 20 working days from the
day after we received your recent correspondence. This is in accordance
with our internal review procedures which were provided with our response.
Yours sincerely
Sarah Whelan
Senior Information Access Officer
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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Dear Information Commissioner's Office,
When you supply the IR please include the email address which was used to send the request in quote marks.
The ICO (Jon Manners) refuses to allow a DN to be issued without an email address. This matter is now with the Parliamentary Ombudsman.
Your explanation of the prejudice caused with very poor, please try harder.
Yours faithfully,
Edward Williams
05 July 2019
Case Reference Number RCC0851770
Review of response to information request
I write further to your email of 7 June 2019 in which you requested a
review of the handling of your request dealt with under the reference
number IRQ0821674. I am the Group Manager in the Information Access
service team and I have been asked to review the way we handled your
request for information. I can confirm that I have had no prior
involvement in the handling of this request.
Your information request
You contacted us on 19 February 2019 and stated:
“Sent: 19 February 2019 10:48 To: AccessICOinformation Subject: Freedom of
Information request - Agreements for outside legal services Dear
Information Commissioner?s Office, Please disclose all current agreements
for provision of legal services by outside bodies such as barristers
chambers, law firms etc. This should include the rates of pay agreed.
Yours faithfully, Edward Williams
------------------------------------------------------------------- Please
use this email address for all replies to this request:
[1][FOI #553477 email]”
Our response
My colleague Sarah Whelan wrote to you with a response on 7 June 2019
stating:
“We have considered your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000
(FOIA).
Please accept my apologies for the delay in the response to your request.
Your request was received at a time the ICO is experiencing a high demand
for its services. Our records show that in the financial year 2018 - 2019
the number of information requests handled by the ICO was approximately
54% higher than in the previous financial year.
Your request
‘Please disclose all current agreements for provision of legal services by
outside bodies such as barristers chambers, law firms etc. This should
include the rates of pay agreed.’
Our response
I can confirm that we hold information that falls in the scope of your
request.
The information we hold about our external legal costs have been withheld.
The information engages the exemption at section 43 of the FOIA which is
about prejudice to commercial interests. We consider the disclosure of
this information would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of
both us and our external legal counsel.
The ICO’s guidance on what constitutes a commercial interest states:-
“A commercial interest relates to a person’s ability to participate
competitively in a commercial activity.”
FOIA Section 43 states:
“Information is exemption information if its disclosure under this Act
would, or would be likely to, prejudice the commercial interests of any
person (including the public authority holding it).”
For your information a person may be an individual, a company, the public
authority itself or any other legal entity.
This is a qualified exemption and requires that we carry out a public
interest test. Where a public authority is satisfied that the release of
the information requested would prejudice someone’s commercial interests,
it can only refuse to provide the information if it is satisfied that the
public interest in withholding the information outweighs the public
interest in disclosing it.
In this particular case we consider that the factors in favour of
disclosing this information are:
* Promoting accountability and transparency in the spending of public
money and the way the ICO conducts its business.
The factors for maintaining the exemption and withholding the information
are:
* The public interest in the ICO being able to negotiate and secure
counsel engagement on terms which secure the best value for the public
purse, without prejudicing its commercial interests or the commercial
interests of legal advisors it wishes to engage.
* The disclosure of the fee paid to counsel in respect of cases would be
likely to prejudice their ability and the ability of other counsel’s
engaged by the ICO to negotiate with other clients about fees and as
such would likely harm their commercial interests.
We consider that in all the circumstances the public interest in
maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing this
information.
FOIA Section 40(2)
We also consider that information within the scope of your request is
personal data about the barristers concerned which falls within the scope
of the Data Protection Act 2018 (DPA).
This information is exempt from disclosure under section 40(2) by virtue
of section 40(3A)(a) which is the exemption under FOIA concerning personal
information. Section 40(2) exempts information in response to a request if
it is personal data belonging to an individual other than yourself and it
satisfies one of the conditions listed in the legislation (Amendments to
the Freedom of Information Act 2000 contained in the Data Protection Act
2018). The condition contained in section 40(3A)(a) applies – that
disclosure would breach one of the data protection principles. The
principle is that:
“Personal data shall be processed lawfully, fairly, and in a transparent
manner….” (GDPR EU2016, Article 5(1)(a)).
We do not consider that disclosing this information to you, and
consequently the public, is necessary or justified in order to satisfy
your information request and the requirements of the FOIA. In the
circumstances of this request there is no strong legitimate interest that
would override the prejudice to the rights and freedoms of the data
subjects. We have therefore taken the decision that disclosing this
information to you would be unlawful.
This concludes our response.”
Your request for internal review
You wrote to us on 7 June 2019 stating:
“Sent: 07 June 2019 17:32 To: Information Access Inbox Subject: Internal
review of Freedom of Information request - Agreements for outside legal
services Dear Information Commissioner's Office, Please pass this on to
the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews. I am writing to
request an internal review of Information Commissioner's Office's handling
of my FOI request 'Agreements for outside legal services'. You got the
pibt wrong.”
Our internal review
I have undertaken a review of your information request and the Public
Interest Test (PIT) applied by my colleague Ms Whelan as requested in your
correspondence of 7 June 2019. Whilst the PIT applied to your request was
brief, I do agree with the factors in the interests of maintaining the
exemption which Ms Whelan applied. Specifically it is essential to The
Information Commissioners Office that we are able to engage legal
representation without the parties being concerned their fees will be in
the public domain. This would necessarily mean we would be unable to
negotiate regarding fees as effectively in the future. It may also mean
that certain Counsel would not want to engage if there was a propensity
that their financial payments were made public.
As a result I do not uphold your complaint that the PIT was incorrect. I
acknowledge there could have been more detail to the test and have
considered the following:
In this particular case I have reconsidered the application of the
exemption of the information and consider that the factors in favour of
disclosing this information are:
* Promoting accountability and transparency in the spending of public
money and the way the ICO conducts its business.
* There is a public interest in potential tenderers being encouraged to
bid for public contracts and being able to improve the quality of
their bids.
The factors for maintaining the exemption and withholding the information
are:
* The disclosure of the fee paid to counsel in respect of cases would be
likely to prejudice their ability and the ability of other counsel’s
engaged by the ICO to negotiate with other clients about fees and as
such would likely harm their commercial interests.
* The importance of preserving the Commissioner’s freedom to negotiate,
in confidence, the constituent parts of a business arrangement in
order to secure an overall agreement that offers best value for money.
Disclosure would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of
the Commissioner in these.
* There is a real risk in this case that other barristers/chambers may
be more reluctant to offer favourable rates due to their competitive
advantage being diminished if they know that such information may be
disclosed to the public.
* Disclosure of the information could affect the Commissioner’s ability
to negotiate rates with barrister’s chambers in the future, on the
basis that they are likely to be discouraged from tendering if they
believe that confidential information will be revealed. Disclosure
would be likely to prejudice the Commissioner’s commercial interests
if fewer bids are received – thus inhibiting the Commissioner’s
ability to obtain best value for money.
I consider that in all the circumstances the public interest in
maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing this
information.
My review finds the handling of the information request and the
withholding of information was correct. I acknowledge that the PIT was
brief and will provide feedback to my service to this effect. Thank you
for your interest in the work of The Information Commissioners Office.
Complaint procedure
If you are dissatisfied with the outcome of this review you can make a
formal complaint with the ICO in its capacity as the regulator of The
Freedom of Information Act 2000. Please follow the link below to submit
your complaint:
[2]https://ico.org.uk/concerns/
Yours sincerely
Elizabeth Baxter
Information Access Group Manager
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF
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J Roberts left an annotation ()
Two emails from a set of chambers have been disclosed that might interest you. They concern the PHSO's failure to disclose details of the hourly rates it pays for legal services:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...

D. Moore left an annotation ()
Edward Williams,
You left a comment dated 31 January 2020 regarding one of my requests:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/m...
The FTT has dismissed my appeal.
If you go to the request you will find a link from where you can download the decision.
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Edward Williams left an annotation ()
Matter referred to the ICO.