Age of consent laws WALES

Graeme MacLean made this Freedom of Information request to Dyfed Powys Police

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Dear Dyfed Powys Police,

I ask the following question under the freedom of information act 2000 and for the protection of children and freedom of adults under the Human Rights Act 1998.

I note that the current age of sexual consent (regardless of gender or orientation) is 16 years old, unless the person is 18+ and IN A POSITION OF TRUST.

However, there seems to be little public guidance especially to young teenagers who may be experimenting, on what the law states is the correct age for 'cybersex' (Sexual talk online, via chartrooms, webcameras, text messages.)

One would usually employ logic and reason to deduce that if it is ok in the eyes of the law for a 100 year old outside a position of trust to have consensual sex with a 16 year old, that the state would even marry the two and allow them to co-habitat in a rented council house and be taxed, that you would expect cyber sex to be set at 16 regardless of the age of the other, as long as he/she is 16+ also; considering that Welsh law can go against the known rules of logic and reason, I feel the police are best to clarify what the law states for others. My question is therefore thus:

A) Is it a criminal offence for an adult 18+ outside a position of trust to engage in coessential adult cybersex with a 16+ year old ?

As stated, a reasonable person would reasonably expect it to be 16 considering the demonstrative evidence of many 16 year olds pregnant, with a family, in there own rented homes with a partner aged 18+ that have been married by the state for decades.

Yet as we know, a 16 year old cant by a pornographic magazine that depicts the acts she/he probably engages in every night with there lawfully wedded partner. So if a citizen was to do the common sense thign and follow this logic and it is not concurred with the greater wisdom of the law that law could land a reasonable person (such as a 19 year old) on the register and in jail.

Please clarify,

Thank you.

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Dear Mr Maclean

 

Reference No: 501/2012

 

Thank you for your request for information dated 23.09.12 and received by
the Freedom of Information Unit on 24.09.12 concerning Age of consent
laws.  This request will be dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000.

 

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Colin. R. Matthews

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth - Freedom of Information Officer

Uned Rhyddid Gwybodaeth - Freedom of Information Unit

Pencadlys Heddlu - Dyfed-Powys Police Headquarters

Caerfyrddin - Carmarthen

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Dear Mr Maclean

 

Reference No: 501/2012

 

I write in connection with your request for information dated 23 September
2012 and received in the Freedom of Information Unit on 24 September 2012
regarding Age of Consent Laws Wales.

 

As outlined in the attached document, Dyfed Powys Police is not required
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I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in
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Yours sincerely

 

 

 

Colin. R. Matthews

Swyddog Rhyddid Gwybodaeth - Freedom of Information Officer

Uned Rhyddid Gwybodaeth - Freedom of Information Unit

Pencadlys Heddlu - Dyfed-Powys Police Headquarters

Caerfyrddin - Carmarthen

Ffon/Tel: 0845 330 2000 est/ext 23444

Uniongyrchol/Direct Line : 01267 226478 or 226596

e-bost/e-mail - [2][Dyfed Powys Police request email]

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Powys drwy Gynllun Cyhoeddi a Log Datgeliadau Heddlu Dyfed-Powys?  Mae’r
ddau ar gael drwy’r dolenni cyswllt isod:

 

Did you know you can access information about Dyfed Powys Police via the
Dyfed Powys Police Publication Scheme and the Dyfed Powys Police
Disclosure Log?  Both are available via the below links:

 

[3]www.dyfed-powys.police.uk/en/information/

[4]www.dyfed-powys.police.uk/en/information/responses/

 

 Dyfed Powys Police provides you the right to request a re-examination of your
case under its review procedure (copy enclosed). If you decide to request such a
review and having followed the Force’s full process you are still dissatisfied,
then you have the right to direct your comments to the Information Commissioner
who will give it consideration.

 

 

E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT

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of Dyfed-Powys Police. It is intended only for the person or entity named
above. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the
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intended recipient or the employer or agent responsible for delivering it
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prohibited. This e-mail and any files transmitted within it have been
checked for all known viruses. The recipient should still check the e-mail
and any attachments for the presence of viruses, as Dyfed-Powys Police
accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by
this e-mail.

DATGANIAD CYFRINACHEDD E BOST

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angenrheidrwydd yn adlewyrchu barn Heddlu Dyfed-Powys. Bwriedir yr e-bost
ar gyfer y person neu'r sefydliad a enwir uchod. Os derbyniwyd yr e-bost
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eich system os gwelwch yn dda. Os na'i fwriadwyd ar eich cyfer chi ac nid
chi yw'r cyflogwr na'r asiant sy'n gyfrifol am roi'r e-bost i'r derbynnydd
bwriadedig, fe'ch hysbysir gan hyn na chaniateir i chi ddefnyddio,
adolygu, lledaenu, dosbarthu na chopio'r e-bost ar unrhyw gyfrif.
Archwiliwyd yr e-bost hwn ac unrhyw ffeiliau a drosglwyddir gydag ef am
firws. Serch hynny, dylai'r derbynnydd hefyd archwilio'r e-bost a'r
ffeiliau sydd ynghlwm am firws oherwydd nid yw Heddlu Dyfed Powys yn
derbyn cyfrifoldeb am unrhyw ddifrod a achosir gan unrhyw firws a
drosglwyddir trwy gyfrwng yr e-bost hwn.

Dyfed Powys Police the lowest levels of recorded crime and highest total
detection rate across the whole of England and Wales.

Heddlu Dyfed Powys y lefelau isaf o droseddau a recordiwyd a r gyfradd
ddatrys uchelaf ar draws Cymru a Lloegr gyfan.

 

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