Richard Dragonetti

Dear Driving Standards Agency,

Could you please advise me of the number of accidents that have happened in the last 5 years where there has been damage to the test vehicle.

Could you advise me of the number of accidents causing damage to the test vehicle where examiners have intervened to prevent the damage to the test vehicle.

Could you advise me of the number of accidents causing damage to the test vehicle where no preventative action was taken by the examiner.

Could you advise me of the number of successful claims, by individuals against the DSA where vehicles have been damaged on a Driving Test and the examiner has not intervened.

Could you advise me of what the DSA policy is, on Examiners telling instructors about damage to their vehicles following an accident during the Driving Test.

Could you advise me of what the DSA policy is, when examiners fail to inform the instructor of damage sustained during a test, and, offering information on where the accident took place and how it took place.

Is their any record that should be given to an instructor by the DSA or examiner where an accident has sustained damage to the test car, in order that an insurance claim can be made.

Yours faithfully,

Richard Dragonetti

Driving Standards Agency

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Driving Standards Agency

Knowledge and Information Management Team

The Axis Building

112 Upper Parliament Street

NOTTINGHAM NG1 6LP

 

switchboard: (0115) 936 6666

direct line: (0115) 936 6034

fax: (0115) 936 6580

email: :[DSA request email]

websites: direct.gov.uk

[1]dft.gov.uk/dsa

 

 

                                                                          

                                                                           
e-mail [2][DSA request email]

                                 
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Mr Richard Dragonetti

by email: [FOI #103684 email]

 

our ref: IA/00097/12

 

31 January 2012

 

Dear Mr Dragonetti

 

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST

 

Thank you for your email of 27 January 2012 requesting information about
accidents occurring on driving tests; we are dealing with your request
under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

 

Your request was received by the Driving Standards Agency on 30 January
2012.  We will endeavour to provide you with a full response within 20
working days after receipt of your request.

 

If you have any queries about this letter, please do not hesitate to
contact me on the details as above.  Please remember to quote the
reference number above in any future communications.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

Knowledge and Information Management Team

 

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Driving Standards Agency

Knowledge and Information Management Team

The Axis Building

112 Upper Parliament Street

NOTTINGHAM NG1 6LP

 

switchboard: (0115) 936 6666

direct line: (0115) 936 6785

fax: (0115) 936 6580

email: [DSA request email]

websites: direct.gov.uk

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Richard Dragonetti

by email:
[FOI #103684 email]                                                                 

our ref: IA/00097/12

 

23 February 2012

 

Dear Mr Dragonetti

 

Information requested under the Freedom of Information Act (FoIA)

 

Further to our email of 31 January 2012, we can confirm that we have
handled your request for information about accidents occurring on driving
tests within the terms of the FoIA.

 

I attach, at Annexes A to C, the response to your request.

 

If you are unhappy with the way we have handled your request, you should
ask for an internal review by contacting the Information Compliance
Manager, at the above address.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

 

 

Knowledge and Information Management Team

 

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Richard Dragonetti

Dear Driving Standards Agency,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Driving Standards Agency's handling of my FOI request 'Accidents whilst on driving test'.

The DSA has not provided information on the grounds that they would have to take an unreasonable amount of time to generate this information, and, it is therefore not required to do so under the FOI Act.

The information requested that has not been given is:

2) Could you advise me of the number of accidents causing damage to the test vehicle where examiners have intervened to prevent the damage to the test vehicle?

3) Could you advise me of the number of accidents causing damage to the test vehicle where no preventative action was taken by the examiner?

I would suggest that an organisation that considers peoples suitability to drive, should have this information readily to hand.

Further, the response to the following:

4) Could you advise me of the number of successful claims, by individuals against the DSA where vehicles have been damaged on a driving test and the examiner has not intervened?

Since October 2007 there have been no successful legal claims against the agency by individuals where vehicles have been damaged on a driving test and the examiner has not intervened. Please note that we do not hold records about court cases prior to October 2007.

5.) Could you advise me of what the DSA policy is, on Examiners telling instructors about damage to their vehicles following an accident during the driving test?

6) Could you advise me of what the DSA policy is when examiners fail to inform the instructor of damage sustained during a test and offering information on where the accident took place and how it took place?

7) Is there any record that should be given to an instructor by the DSA or examiner where an accident has sustained damage to the test car, in order that an insurance claim can be made?

The information is not available on Section 8 of the DT1 Standard Operating Procedure, as this mainly talks about the protection of the DSA and the examiner and not the role that the Examiner should take during a test being the only qualified driver in the car!

Further I believe that the DSA examiner should be, (and if they are not this is deplorable)responsible for the full reporting of the accident to the Instructor, together with a written report as to how and why the accident took place and what if any preventative action was taken on behalf of the examiner.

The fact that this information is not forthcoming prevents an instructor from making a claim on their vehicle insurance (and incidentally, this probably isn't even valid if they are not in the car, to report it exactly as to how the accident took place).

Further, there probably have been no successful claims against the DSA because information is not forthcoming and neither the examiners or the DSA seem to know what the process should be following an accident.

As a result they set up complicated procedures just to get information so that people give up pursuing them for damages.

An instructor or individual cannot intervene even if they are in the car at the time, and an examiner is the only person who is in a position to do something, their inaction or recognition of danger, is what ultimately causes the accident and they therefore should take the responsibility for that accident taking place and carry insurance that can be claimed on, by instructors, or people who may have been injured during a test or their cars damaged.

If these things are in place please advise how one can get these things implemented.

I would like a full internal review of these factors with a full written document explaining the terms of examiners insurance cover, against them being responsible for not intervening in the case of an accident, causing either damage to persons or vehicles.

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ac...

Yours faithfully,

Richard Dragonetti

Driving Standards Agency

                                                        
                   

Driving Standards Agency

Knowledge and Information Management Team

The Axis Building

112 Upper Parliament Street

NOTTINGHAM NG1 6LP

 

switchboard: (0115) 936 6666

direct line: (0115) 936 6023

fax: (0115) 936 6580

e-mail: [DSA request email]

website: direct.gov.uk

[1]dft.gov.uk/dsa

 

 

 

R Dragonetti

by email: [FOI #103684 email]

 

o/r: IA/00172/12

 

Date: 8 March 2012

 

Dear Mr Dragonetti,

 

Freedom of Information Act (FoIA) – Internal Review

 

Thank you for your request for an Internal Review.  Your request was
received on

5 March 2012.

 

We hope to provide you with a full response by 2 April.

 

If you have any queries about this letter, please contact us, quoting the
reference number above in any future communications.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

 

 

Knowledge and Information Management Team

 

 

 

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Driving Standards Agency

                                                                                                                                           
The Axis Building

                                                                                                                            
112 Upper Parliament Street

                                                                                                                                 
NOTTINGHAM NG1 6LP

                                                                                                                                                           

                                                                                                                          
switchboard: (0115) 936 6666

                                                                                                                             
direct line: (0115) 936 6060

                                                                                            
                                           fax: (0115) 936 6580

                                                                                                              
email: [email address]

Rosemary Thew
                                                                                                           
websites: direct.gov.uk

Chief
Executive                                                                                                                          
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R Dragonetti

by email: [FOI #103684 email]

 

our ref: IA/00172/12

 

2 April 2012

 

Dear Mr Dragonetti

 

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST: INTERNAL REVIEW

 

Further to our email of 8 March, I can now reply to your email of 5
March.  You asked for an internal review of the response to your Freedom
of Information Act (FoIA) request of 30 January, about accidents occurring
on tests.  An internal review is when the information provided is
re-assessed because the requestor is not content with the original
response.  In line with our procedure, as DSA Chief Executive, I have now
reviewed your case.  I had no role in replying to your original request.

 

I have considered all the points you have made in your email and my
response to each point is provided at Annex A to this letter.  If you wish
us to reconsider the time lines for part of your request so that it falls
within the cost of compliance, please send these to these revised dates to
[2][DSA request email] . If you wish to discuss or seek guidance on how to
revise your request, you can contact Alison Wilson, Information Compliance
Manager on 0115 9366023.

 

If you are not content with the outcome of the Internal Review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner for a
decision. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at:

 

            Information Commissioner’s Office

            Wycliffe House

            Water Lane

            Wilmslow

            Cheshire

            SK9 5AF

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

 

Rosemary Thew

Chief Executive

 

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Richard Dragonetti

Dear Driving Standards Agency,

I consider that your reply is there to protect you as an Agency, and is neither right or fair. You would not allow the Instructor to sit in the front of the car to correct any error that the pupil might make that may lead to an accident.

Instead your examiners who I believe to be made up of largely failed instructors are neither competent, or, capable of assessing whether the driver can drive or not. If the candidate is over revving the engine which results in them reversing the car too quickly and hitting something, then the examiner should step in by either instruction prior to them moving off, or by depressing the clutch and brake.

Any non DSA person would do anything to prevent an accident from happening and protecting both people and vehicles, someone from the DSA should be responsible enough to minimise danger to both people and vehicles.

On this basis you would not sanction intervention if the candidate were about to run over someone on a pedestrian crossing leading to their death, which would make them and the DSA guilty of Manslaughter, is that something that you should be supporting?

To me it is arrogant in the extreme to say that they have no responsibility for this, it appears that they don't even care, and for that matter if your response is indicative of the DSA's position, then it is unbelievably arrogant and dismissive of people's lives and property and you as an organisation and individuals should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

Yours faithfully,

Richard Dragonetti

Corporate.Correspondence, Driving Standards Agency

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Driving Standards Agency

                                                                                                                                           
The Axis Building 

                                                                                                                            
112 Upper Parliament Street

NOTTINGHAM NG1 6LP

                                                                                                                                                           
              

                                                                                                                          
switchboard: (0115) 936 6666   direct line: (0115) 936 6060

                                                                                            
                                           fax: (0115) 936 6573

                                                                                                              
email: [email address]

                                                                                                                    
websites: direct.gov.uk/drivingtest

                                                                                                                                   
dft.gov.uk/dsa

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     
 

Rosemary Thew
                                                                                                                                            

Chief
Executive                                                                                                                                              

 

Richard Dragonetti

by email: [FOI #103684 email]

 

our ref: 1204/00772

 

18 April 2012

 

Dear Mr Dragonetti

 

Thank you for your email of 2 April about the standard of our examiners. 

 

I am sorry you were unhappy with my reply of 2 April; however, I have
nothing further to add to what I said.  As I explained, if you remain
unhappy with the way in which we have handled your Freedom of Information
request, you have the right to apply to the Information Commissioner for a
decision on its handling.  The Information Commissioner can be contacted
at:

 

Information Commissioner’s Office

Wycliffe House

Water Lane

Wilmslow

Cheshire

SK9 5AF

 

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

 

 

 

Rosemary Thew

Chief Executive

 

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