A100 Medicine Admissions Statistics

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Dear University of Leeds,
I am writing today to make a freedom of information request about admissions into the A100 course at Leeds.

1) I saw that in previous years applicants who scored 36/40 progressed to the next stage in the applicantion process. However, what consideration is made for someone who is an Access to Leeds applicant and also has a mitigating circumstance in regards to GCSEs (for example the school only allowed that person to do 8)

2) Is there a lower cut-off for access to Leeds applicants and what has it been in previous years.

3) What is the ratio of access to Leeds applicants to non access to Leeds applicants applying to A100 in the previous years.

4) How many access to Leeds applicants have been made offers of ABB in the past 2 years.

Yours faithfully,

Sam Rhodes

Jenny Foggin,

I am away from the office and will not return until Tuesday 7 August. If your email is about a Freedom of Information request, please contact Tracey Crombie in the Legal Adviser's Office. If it is otherwise urgent, please contact the Secretariat for advice on 343 4036.

Tracey Crombie,

Dear Sam

I can confirm receipt of the request below, dated 3 August 2018. 

Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and will be answered within twenty working days.  As such, you should expect to hear from the University in response by 3 September 2018, if, in the meantime, you have any queries about the request, please don’t hesitate to contact Jenny Foggin ([email address]).   

Kind regards

Tracey Crombie
PA to the Legal Adviser
University of Leeds
LS2 9JT
Tel:  0113 343 4078 (NB 8am-4pm)
Fax:  0113 343 3925

This communication is intended solely for the addressee, is strictly confidential and may also be legally privileged.  If you are not the addressee please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments.  Instead, please contact Tracey Crombie on the above telephone number.

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Jenny Foggin,

Dear Sam,

Whilst I can look at what statistical information is held, your questions really seemed designed to gain a deeper understanding of our admissions system and the way in which your individual circumstances might be taken into account. I cannot give you that kind of understanding from centrally held statistical data, but if you contact the Admissions team in the School of Medicine, they will be able to do so. They are very experienced, and will have a much, much greater understanding of all the nuances than I can as a member of the central legal team, and will be able to advise you much, much more constructively than I could. It might also be that they are able to give you some answers and information straight away, whereas the volume of formal FoI requests that the University receives means that I generally need to deal with them on a 'first come first served' basis, which could mean you waiting the full 20 working days for any substantive response.

There is some information on our website, for example, https://medhealth.leeds.ac.uk/info/202/a... (and you can also download the full admissions policy). After checking that, the best means of contacting the admissions team is to ring the main admissions number, which is 0113 3434362. I am aware that 'whatdotheyknow' sometimes removes personal emails and phone numbers from responses, so do please contact me directly if this number is not reproduced, and I would be happy to supply it again.

Best wishes,

Jenny

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Jenny Foggin
Senior Governance and Freedom of Information Officer
Secretariat
University of Leeds

(0113) 343 1155
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Dear Jenny Foggin,

Thank you for the reply. I will contact the medical admissions teams at the university of Leeds. However, in the mean time can you provide me with the relevant statistical information that I originally requested.

1)what has been the access to Leeds cut off out of 40 for admissions into A100 medicine over the past few years.

2) how many access to Leeds applicants in comparison to normal applicants to the A100 course

3)how many access to Leeds applicants are made an ABB offer in the past 2 years for the A100 course

Yours sincerely,

Sam Rhodes

Jenny Foggin,

I am away from the office and will not return until Thursday 9 August. If
your email is about a Freedom of Information request, please contact
Tracey Crombie in the Legal Adviser's Office. If it is otherwise urgent,
please contact the Secretariat for advice on 343 4036.

Jenny Foggin,

Dear Sam,

No problem at all. I can confirm now that the team do not use a cut off mark: applications are ranked in order, so it's a comparative process. We retain the ranking, but not the raw result, but if you speak to the admissions team they will be able to give you a better feel for that point.

I will look for the data on your second and third questions.

Best wishes,

Jenny

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Dear Jenny Foggin,

As you don’t keep the score can you provide me with the ranking instead. Thank you

Yours sincerely,

Sam Rhodes

Jenny Foggin,

Dear Sam,

I'm sorry; I think my explanation was a bit unclear. All we do is keep a list of which applicant came 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc, which I couldn't provide you with as it would give you their identities, contrary to their data protection rights. We don't keep a list of their 'scores', just their position in the list.

Best wishes,

Jenny

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Jenny Foggin
Senior Governance and Freedom of Information Officer
Secretariat
University of Leeds

(0113) 343 1155
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Dear Jenny Foggin,
Sorry for misunderstanding. I hope I can still get the previous information which I requested in the coming days about the amount of access to Leeds applicants etc.

Yours sincerely,

Sam Rhodes

Jenny Foggin,

I am away from the office and will not return until Monday 20 August. If
your email is about a Freedom of Information request, please contact
Tracey Crombie in the Legal Adviser's Office. If it is otherwise urgent,
please contact the Secretariat for advice on 343 4036.

Jenny Foggin,

Dear Sam,

No problem; my explanation could have been more explicit. We have referred the query to colleagues in Medicine and I am sure that they will get back to us soon.

Best wishes,

Jenny

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Tracey Crombie,

Dear Mr Rhodes

 

Further to your Freedom of Information request, please see below in red.

 

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Best wishes,

 

Tracey Crombie
PA to the Legal Adviser
University of Leeds
LS2 9JT
Tel:  0113 343 4078 (NB 8am-4pm)
Fax:  0113 343 3925

This communication is intended solely for the addressee, is strictly
confidential and may also be legally privileged.  If you are not the
addressee please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance
on it or any attachments.  Instead, please contact Tracey Crombie on the
above telephone number.

Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party
acting, or refraining from acting, on any information contained in this
email is excluded.

It is the responsibility of the receiver of this email to ensure that any
onward transmission or use of this email (including attachments) will not
adversely affect their systems or data contained on their systems. 
Receivers are advised to carry out virus checks.  The University of Leeds
accepts no responsibility with regard to the communication or other use of
this email.

 

 

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Dear Tracey Crombie,

In regards to your previous message:
There is no answer to any of the data that I asked as you stated it would be in red and there isn’t any information in red. Please can you get back to me with the relevant information.

Yours sincerely,

Sam Rhodes

Tracey Crombie,

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Dear Mr Rhodes

Please see attached. If you scroll down to your original email the responses are below each question in red. Apologies for not being clearer.

Regards
Tracey

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Dear Tracey Crombie,
You haven’t attached anything or written anything in red. Could you please resend it as you have claimed you have attached it but you haven’t.

Yours sincerely,

Sam Rhodes

Jenny Foggin,

Dear Mr Rhodes,

There seems to have been some confusion here.

I have looked at this with Tracey and it is clear that she has acted in good faith and responded appropriately to your query: she did send the text in red in her email of 4 September. She also sent a further email on 5 September, with her email of 4 September attached.

I have scrolled through the correspondence on the whatdotheyknow website and have been able to download the attachment Tracey sent, which clearly contains red text responding to your questions.

1)what has been the access to Leeds cut off out of 40 for admissions into A100 medicine over the past few years.
The selection system at Leeds is based on a ranking system and therefore the cut off point is not the same year on year but has been between 30 - 35 over the past few years.

2) how many access to Leeds applicants in comparison to normal applicants to the A100 course In 2016
In 2016 we received 2015 applications overall including 193 from Access to Leeds. In 2017 we received 2137 applications overall including 244 from Access to Leeds. In 2018 we received 2142 applications overall including 259 from Access to Leeds

3)how many access to Leeds applicants are made an ABB offer in the past 2 years for the A100 course All Access to Leeds applicants who are made an offer receive an offer of ABB.
In 2016, 30 received offers and 28 were placed on Medicine course at Leeds. In 2017, 51 received offers and 35 were placed on Medicine course at Leeds. In 2018, 56 received offers and 38 were placed on Medicine course at Leeds'

If you are having problems accessing this on the site, this is unfortunate, but I cannot see anything that Tracey has done which would have caused you to have issues accessing the answers. We often send text in red, to help people distinguish the answers from their own text, and attachments, and do not usually have problems with these being accessible on this site.

For ease of reference, I have also reproduced below the text that was included in the email of 4 September (and then attached to the email of 5 September).

I hope that this resolves the matter, but if you do have any further queries, please contact me directly rather than Tracey (if whatdotheyknow removes my email address, which is [email address], then it can be easily obtained from the University of Leeds website as I am the only Foggin on the staff A-Z list).

Best wishes,

Jenny

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Jenny Foggin
Senior Governance and Freedom of Information Officer
Secretariat
University of Leeds

(0113) 343 1155

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