A100 Medicine Admission Statistics

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Dear University of Dundee,

I am making a request regarding statistics for the A100 UCAS cycle. All requests are for the 2011/2012 cycle unless stated otherwise. Thank you.

1) How many of the students admitted were studying A Levels?
2) How many of the students admitted were international?
3) For each applicant who was unsuccessful in obtaining an interview, can I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A Level results and subjects studied.
4)For each applicant who was successful in obtaining an interview, can I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A Level results and subjects studied.
5) Can I get a list of criteria that the interviewers looked at during the interview to determine a candidates suitability?
6) How was the interview scored? Was it a score out of 10 by each interviewer or anything along those lines?
7) For each applicant who was successful in obtaining an offer, can I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A Level results and subjects studied as well as their score in the interview stage?
8) I would also like any scoring or grading system used to assess interview performance and if a form or such is provided to interviewers to record performance is available I would also kindly request this. This specific request is for this years admission
cycle, ie 2012/2013.
10) Can I also get details of successful and unsuccessful candidates that studied the IB and their various predicted results and UKCAT scores?

I would like all of this data to be in a machine readable format if that is fine. Thank you very much

Yours faithfully,

Mr Choudhary

FreedomOfInformation, University of Dundee

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Dear Mr Choudhary,
Thank you for your request for information from the University of Dundee.
Colleagues have provided answers to your questions below. Where
statistical information has been provided it has been presented in a way
that prevents the identification of individuals and the inadvertent
release of their personal information (thus breaching the principles of
the Data Protection Act). For reasons of brevity I have omitted the full
technical explanation of the University's rationale in light of the
requirements of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 (S.38) from
this email as I trust that you will understand the University's concerns,
but I can provide that should you require it for your records.
1) How many of the students admitted were studying A Levels?
Total Admissions 165
Studying A Levels 35
Please note that this figure reflects the number of admitted students
studying A Levels only and not any other combination, for example, A
Levels and Scottish Higher examinations.
2) How many of the students admitted were international?
13 entering first year (based on full fee international students).
3) For each applicant who was unsuccessful in obtaining an interview, can
I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A Level
results and subjects studied.
Please see attached spreadsheet - Question 3.
Please note that the University's student records system notes actual
grades rather than predicted ones. Only students studying A Levels have
been included in this table. The tariff scores provided are made up from A
Level qualifications only and do not include other qualifications, such as
GCE Key Skills, AS Levels and GCSE’s, as the University does not use these
qualifications when calculating tariffs. Where an exam has been taken
twice in the same subject, the highest grade has been counted.
4) For each applicant who was successful in obtaining an interview, can I
get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A Level
results and subjects studied.
Please see attached spreadsheet - Question 4.
Please note that the University's student records system notes actual
grades rather than predicted ones. Only students studying A Levels have
been included in this table. The tariff scores provided are made up from A
Level qualifications only and do not include other qualifications, such as
GCE Key Skills, AS Levels and GCSE’s, as the University does not use these
qualifications when calculating tariffs. Where an exam has been taken
twice in the same subject, the highest grade has been counted.
5) Can I get a list of criteria that the interviewers looked at during the
interview to determine a candidate’s suitability?
The University is unable to release these criteria to you. They are reused
each year to assess candidates and to place them into the public domain is
likely to prejudice substantially the integrity of the admissions process.
Consequently, under S.16 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002
(FoI(S)A) I confirm that
a. The University holds interview criteria for the medical admissions
process.
b. The University claims that information is exempt from disclosure.
c. The University claims the exemption in S.30(c) of FoI(S)A; that the
disclosure of this information would prejudice substantially the effective
conduct of public affairs.
d. The University claims the exemption for the reasons detailed above.
The University is required to have regard to the public interest in the
application of this exemption. The University asserts that there is a
greater public interest in it maintaing a robust and fair admissions
process than in the disclosure of interview criteria. The University
asserts that the release of the specific criteria would not significantly
improve the public understanding of the admissions process given the
amount of information already in the public domain (please see
[1]http://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/co...,
[2]http://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/en... and
[3]http://medicine.dundee.ac.uk/faq).
However, you may find the section 'What is the Dundee interview like' of
our Medicine FAQs helpful -
[4]http://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/en... and
[5]http://medicine.dundee.ac.uk/faq.
6) How was the interview scored? Was it a score out of 10 by each
interviewer or anything along those lines?
The interview is scored by 10 assessors who each score the candidates on a
3 x 5 point scale. The total score is 150.
7) For each applicant who was successful in obtaining an offer, can I get
a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A Level results
and subjects studied as well as their score in the interview stage?
Please see attached spreadsheet - Question 7.
Please note that the University's student records system notes actual
grades rather than predicted ones. Only students studying A Levels have
been included in this table. The tariff scores provided are made up from A
Level qualifications only and do not include other qualifications, such as
GCE Key Skills, AS Levels and GCSE’s, as the University
do not use these qualifications when calculating tariffs. Where an exam
has been taken twice in the same subject, the highest grade has been
counted.
8) I would also like any scoring or grading system used to assess
interview performance and if a form or such is provided to interviewers to
record performance is available I would also kindly request this.
The University is unable to release this information to you. It is reused
each year to assess candidates and to place it into the public domain is
likely to prejudice substantially the integrity of the admissions process.
Consequently, under S.16 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002
(FoI(S)A) I confirm that
a. The University holds information on the assessment of the interview
process.
b. The University claims that information is exempt from disclosure.
c. The University claims the exemption in S.30(c) of FoI(S)A; that the
disclosure of this information would prejudice substantially the effective
conduct of public affairs.
d. The University claims the exemption for the reasons detailed above.
The University is required to have regard to the public interest in the
application of this exemption. The University asserts that there is a
greater public interest in it maintaing a robust and fair admissions
process than in the disclosure of detailed information on the interview
process. The University asserts that the release of this information would
not significantly improve the public understanding of the admissions
process given the amount of information already in the public domain
(please see [6]http://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/co...,
[7]http://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/en... and
[8]http://medicine.dundee.ac.uk/faq).
However, you may find the section 'What is the Dundee interview like' of
our Medicine FAQs helpful -
[9]http://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/en... and
[10]http://medicine.dundee.ac.uk/faq.
10) Can I also get details of successful and unsuccessful candidates that
studied the IB and their various predicted results and UKCAT scores?
Please see attached spreadsheet - Question 10 (based on actual rather than
predicted grades).
I trust that this information is helpful. If you have any further
questions o require any clarification, please feel free to contact me.
Yours sincerely,
Alan Bell
Records Manager and
Information Compliance Officer
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On 17/10/2012 23:30, "Mr Choudhary"
<[14][FOI #133824 email]> wrote:

     Dear University of Dundee,
    
     I am making a request regarding statistics for the A100 UCAS cycle.
     All requests are for the 2011/2012 cycle unless stated otherwise.
     Thank you.
    
     1) How many of the students admitted were studying A Levels?
     2) How many of the students admitted were international?
     3) For each applicant who was unsuccessful in obtaining an
     interview, can I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and
     predicted A Level results and subjects studied.
     4)For each applicant who was successful in obtaining an interview,
     can I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted
     A Level results and subjects studied.
     5) Can I get a list of criteria that the interviewers looked at
     during the interview to determine a candidates suitability?
     6) How was the interview scored? Was it a score out of 10 by each
     interviewer or anything along those lines?
     7) For each applicant who was successful in obtaining an offer, can
     I get a list of their UKCAT score, their GCSE's, and predicted A
     Level results and subjects studied as well as their score in the
     interview stage?
     8) I would also like any scoring or grading system used to assess
     interview performance and if a form or such is provided to
     interviewers to record performance is available I would also kindly
     request this. This specific request is for this years admission
     cycle, ie 2012/2013.
     10) Can I also get details of successful and unsuccessful
     candidates that studied the IB and their various predicted results
     and UKCAT scores?
    
     I would like all of this data to be in a machine readable format if
     that is fine. Thank you very much
    
     Yours faithfully,
    
     Mr Choudhary
    
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Dear FreedomOfInformation,

With regards to question 6, can you please clarify what you mean by '3 x 5 point scale'.

Secondly, I believe that the exemption used for question 5 is not valid. To quote the universities reason for rejecting my request after applying the public test: 'The University asserts that the release of the specific criteria would not significantly improve the public understanding of the admissions process given the amount of information already in the public domain'. Clearly, this implies that the university holds information on the interview process that is not in the public domain. I have checked the links that the university has provided me, however none actually give an applicant any idea of how he or she will be scored. Being on neutral grounds (as someone not applying to any course at the university nor a representative of the university), I believe it would be in the public interest for the university to make public what they score applicants on as it would also help future applicants be more prepared for an interview. A brief outline at the very least would be greatly appreciated.

Yours sincerely,

Mr Choudhary

FreedomOfInformation, University of Dundee

Dear Mr Choudhary,

Thank you for your email. My colleague, Dr Johnathan Dowell, the
Admissions Convener for Medicine is very willing to try and help clarify
the University's medical admissions interview processes, provided that the
clarification does not offer a selective advantage.

'The Multiple Mini Interviews at Dundee involve 10 seven minute stations,
each of which is scored according to 3 'domains' taken from the total of
6. These are normally Communication, Empathy, Critical Thinking, Moral
Reasoning, Integrity and Motivation. Each station fits a blueprint so
that applicants do not all have the same interview, but will cover the
same areas.

Each domain has a specified set of criteria describing desirable responses
to each question which relate to a set of global criteria that are adapted
to ensure they are applicable to the scenario in question. For example,
most stations include a rating for communication, with similar criteria in
each station, rated on a scale of 1-5. Hence, the scoring is standardised
in a way that has been shown to be effective around the world (based upon
a form of guided global judgement rather than a checklist).

Each station scores 3 of the 6 domains and each applicant covers the same
proportion of each domain. The University applies a sophisticated
statistical technique to further improve fairness to account for any
variance in the difficulty of each station. The result is a weighted
average taken from 30 scores per candidate, covering the 6 domains listed.'

Dr Dowell would be happy to provide further explanation, but please note
that the University cannot make detailed information on its criteria
publicly available as that is likely to prejudice the admissions process
for the reasons provided in my previous email. However, he has suggested
that if this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have a specific example
of the information you seek, perhaps from another medical school, he would
be happy to examine that and attempt to match the format if possible. He
would also be happy to discuss your concerns directly as the University
welcomes any opportunity to refine the information provided to potential
applicants on the website (within the limits suggested above). He can be
contacted at [email address].

Concerning your specific point re the exemption cited, as per my previous
email I confirm that University does hold information on the criteria and
scoring system used in the medical admissions process and that the
University asserts that it was correct to withhold that information on the
grounds that its release would be substantially prejudicial to the
effective conduct of public affairs (ie the maintenance of a robust and
fair admissions process for medicine). The University further asserts that
the balance of the public interest in the application of this exemption
was correctly evaluated as being in favour of the information being
withheld on the grounds that there is a greater public interest in the
University maintaining a robust admissions process than there is in the
release of the detailed criteria and scoring mechanism used to underpin
that process. However, given Dr Dowell's explanation above and willingness
to engage in a dialogue with you, I trust that you are happy with this
explanation.

If I can be of further help, please feel free to contact me.

Yours sincerely,

Alan Bell
Records Manager and
Information Compliance Officer

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