Strategic Consultation Group
Note of meeting 31 January 2012
1. The Chair of the SIA welcomed everyone to the meeting.
2. The minutes of the meeting on 5 October 2011 were agreed.
3. Apologies were received from Peter French, James Kelly, Lord Carlile, Jude Brimble,
David Greer and Lord Stevens.
New Regulatory Regime Paper – updated version
4. The Chief Executive, Bill Butler, introduced the updated version of the New
Regulatory Regime Paper and the Group noted the proposed approach to establish
frameworks for the new regime using secondary legislation and completing the
transition to a new regulator with appropriate powers through primary legislation at a
later stage, currently planned as being during the third Parliamentary session.
5. Tyson Hepple updated the Group on Government timetables. The Group expressed
the strong view that the Home Office needed to provide clarity on likely timescales as
soon as possible. A significant number of contracts would be let after the Olympic
Games and both buyers and suppliers needed to know what the likely impact of the
new regime would be and when changes were likely to happen.
6. The Group requested clarity on what the SIA would have the powers to do through
secondary legislation. The SIA agreed to provide a document to the Group outlining
what can be achieved using secondary legislation and what will require primary
7. The Chief Executive informed the Group that he had been asked to give evidence to
the Leveson Inquiry on the regulation of private investigations on 2 February. The
Group indicated that it was their view that the new regime provided the opportunity
for the industry to be regulated in a more coherent way and that this should include
8. The Chief Executive also informed the Group that he has been asked to give
evidence jointly with the Minister, Lynne Featherstone, to the Home Affairs Select
Committee which was also considering private investigations.
Impact Assessment Update
9. The Director for Transition, Hazel Russell, gave a presentation on the draft Impact
Assessment. At the last meeting, she had described the cost and benefit hypothesis
and this had now been developed as a part of the Impact assessment. The draft had
been considered on an initial basis by officials who were generally supportive.
10. The Group were asked to provide feedback on the assumptions underpinning the
cost benefit calculations. The Group were generally supportive of the document. The
Group were informed that work is also being undertaken to develop a cost model for
the new regulatory regime and that a meeting of the NAME OF WORKING GROUP
would be arranged in the Spring.
11. The Impact Assessment will be subject to ministerial clearance in April and is then
expected to be published for consultation in May.
12. Geoff Zeidler raised the issue of the need for a re-balance of costs between
individuals and businesses. The Group noted the SIA view that, while the new regime
would not cost more than current fee levels, the burden of cost would need to reflect
the fact that this is to be a business licensing regime and that the balance of costs
would have to reflect this
13. The Scottish representative confirmed that a process is in place to clear the
document with Ministers in Scotland.
14. The Northern Ireland representative outlined the approach being taken in Northern
Ireland and confirmed that the Minister for Justice and Committee for Justice had
agreed a draft consultation paper on the future of the industry in Northern Ireland.
This opens the way for the Minister to seek approval from his Executive colleagues
for full public consultation. It is anticipated that the public consultation will commence
on 5 April.
Will need to check with Steven.
Customer Operations Changes
15. The Director of Service Delivery, Stephen McCormick, provided the Group with an
update on the operational changes that are being implemented to improve service
delivery. These would, amongst other things, seek to map more closely onto industry
systems and working arrangements and to deliver further cost reductions.
Any Other Business
16. The Scottish representative, John Nicholson, updated the group on the planned
referendum and the Commonwealth Games that will be taking place in Scotland and
the purdah timeframes as a result of the referendum.
17. The Group were informed that legislation has started going through the Scottish
Parliament which will see Scotland moving to a new single police force from 1 April
18. The Northern Ireland representative, Steve McCourt, thanked the SIA Board for
holding their January Board meeting in Northern Ireland. He advised the Group that
the Northern Ireland Committee for Justice had agreed arrangements for the
Northern Ireland consultation on the future regulation of private security and that this
included the SIA proposals.
19. The Group were informed that GMB had conducted a survey which showed support
in the GMB’s guarding sector for the new regime.