From:
Southall, Carolyn
Sent:
19 May 2023 15:25
To:
Townsend, Nicola; Slominski2, Jan
DISCLOSED UNDER EIR
Cc:
Tucker, Louise; Tucker, Louise; Penn, John
Subject:
12 The Ridge Way - reference 23/01763/FUL
Afternoon all
Just to let you know that Louise and I went through the application yesterday and I’ve invalidated it for a number of
reasons.
The letter has gone to the agent and I’ll keep you updated as to progress.
John, it would be good if you and I could meet on site when it is validated, hopefully in the next week or so.
Have a great weekend
Carolyn
Carolyn Southall
Senior Planning Officer ‐ South Team
(
Tuesday to Friday each week)
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may not be as quick as we would like, but here is what you can expect.
For live applications, we are unlikely to provide significant feedback or opportunities to make amendments,
but we will be in touch if we require more information before we can make a decision.
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Development Management
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Sustainable Communities, Regeneration and Economic Recovery
6th Floor, Zone A&B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon, CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6000
Email: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
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From:
Penn, John
Sent:
02 August 2023 16:47
To:
Cllr Lynne Hale
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Subject:
12 The Ridge Way
Dear Councillor Hale,
Thank you for your patience. A new full retrospective planning application 23/01763/FUL has
been received for the above development and I have been informed that it has been validated
today.
It should therefore be available shortly on the web site for public comment.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 3, Zone C
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
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020 8726 6800
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From:
Penn, John
Sent:
10 March 2023 17:34
To:
Townsend, Nicola; Gentry, Ross
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Cc:
Southall, Carolyn
Subject:
FW: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Attachments:
Cover Letter 12 Ridge Way.pdf; 12 The Ridge Way - S96a COPY OF SUBMISSION.pdf
Ross and Nicola,
Please see the email below and attachments from the nominated architect for this
development. He clearly disputes the Choiceplace case and has supplied his reasoning stating
another stated case. Carolyn and I will probably need some guidance as to what you think is the
best course of action.
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
UNDER
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 10 March 2023 17:19
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear Carolyn & John,
Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE Hope all is well. Please see below confirmation of our recent planning submission for the above property
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as submitted today 10.03.2023.
I have attached our cover letter addressed to you both explaining our position and our approach to
regularising matters on site at 12 The Ridge Way which we hope will receive your support. In addition to
this, I have attached a full copy of the planning application submission for your own reference and records
( This is also referenced in the below email trail ). Please find attached :
1. Cover Letter 12 The Ridge Way
2. 12 The Ridge Way ‐ S96a COPY OF SUBMISSION
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Following new advice and a high court case with similarities to the current situation at The Ridge Way we
are confident that this approach is best suited to resolving the matters highlighted to us. We look forward
to hearing from you in due course and welcome your continued support.
Kind Regards,
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From: Planning Portal <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Sent: 10 March 2023 16:31
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Application Submitted: PP‐11993735 ‐ Non‐Material Amendment
Dear -
An update on your application.
Your Non-Material Amendment application with the reference number PP-11993735 has now been
submitted to Croydon Council. We will email you when they have received your application.
Details of your application
Application Type: Non-Material Amendment UNDER
Reference number: PP-11993735
Applicant: Amin
Application site address: 533328, 162415
Submission date: 10/03/2023 16:31:29
Application Fee: £234.00
Total Service Charges: £32.20
View Application For more information on the progress of your application, please contact the Local Planning Authority as
the Planning Portal is not involved in the decision-making process.
Croydon Council
https://www.croydon.gov.uk/planningandregeneration/framework
02087266800
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xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
This email is for information only, please do not reply as the mailbox is not monitored. If you do need to
contact us at Planning Portal, you can email xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx or browse the FAQs on the
Planning Portal website.
Regards
The Planning Portal Team
The Planning Portal is an online application service provided by PortalPlanQuest and supports the
submission of planning application information to Local Planning Authorities in accordance with statutory
regulations.
PortalPlanQuest Limited (reg. no 09400439) is a joint venture between the Department for Levelling Up,
Housing & Communities (DLUHC) and TerraQuest Solutions Limited.
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TerraQuest Solutions Limited is owned by Apse Capital Limited (reg no. 11620219).
www.planningportal.co.uk
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From:
Southall, Carolyn
Sent:
05 April 2023 11:50
To:
Tucker, Louise; Penn, John
DISCLOSED
Subject:
FW: Without Prejudice -Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi both
I’m just about to clock off, so apologies for leaving this with you.
I’ll ping the emails to you Louise
Carolyn
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 05 April 2023 11:47
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Without Prejudice ‐Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear Caroylyn,
Re: Without Prejudice ‐ Private and Confidential ‐ Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2
0LE Dear Carolyn,
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Thank you for your email regarding the planning application for 12 The Ridge Way, CR2 0LE. We appreciate your
communication and would like to request clarification on the reasons why we are required to submit a Section 73A
application instead of a non‐material amendment (NMA) application. We have previously demonstrated that our
case is not similar to the Choice Place case, and we remain unclear as to why a Section 73A application is necessary
in this case. We have already had a approved NMA determination with this application.
We would appreciate it if you could provide clear reasons for this requirement so that we can address any concerns
quickly and efficiently. In the event that we are required to submit a Section 73A application, we would also like to
understand whether this will be determined under delegated decision or if it will be passed into committee. This is
an important consideration for us, as we need to fully understand the process and the associated time and financial
resources required.
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We have previously requested a meeting with senior members of the council to discuss this matter further and
would appreciate it if you could confirm whether such a meeting can be arranged. We are committed to resolving
any concerns you may have and remain highly motivated to do so.
Finally, we would like to note that we feel we are being unfairly targeted in this matter, likely due to inaccurate
public criticism
We hope to work together to find a positive
resolution for all parties involved.
Thank you for your assistance in this matter, and we look forward to hearing from you soon.
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Best regards,
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From: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 05 April 2023 11:00
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
I refer to planning reference 23/01017/NMA for which I note you are not using a planning agent.
Senior Management have stated that you need to submit a Section 73A application in relation to the above
property, therefore please advise when this will be submitted?
I am away until 18 April, therefore please reply to either Louise Tucker or John Penn directly should you wish to
respond prior to my return.
Regards
Carolyn
From: Penn, John
Sent: 10 March 2023 17:36
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk> UNDER
Subject: RE: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
Thank you for your email. I note the contents. I have forwarded it to our senior managers and will
get back to you in due course.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
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Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 10 March 2023 17:19
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To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear Carolyn & John,
DISCLOSED
Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE Hope all is well. Please see below confirmation of our recent planning submission for the above property
as submitted today 10.03.2023.
I have attached our cover letter addressed to you both explaining our position and our approach to
regularising matters on site at 12 The Ridge Way which we hope will receive your support. In addition to
this, I have attached a full copy of the planning application submission for your own reference and records
( This is also referenced in the below email trail ). Please find attached :
1. Cover Letter 12 The Ridge Way
2. 12 The Ridge Way ‐ S96a COPY OF SUBMISSION
Following new advice and a high court case with similarities to the current situation at The Ridge Way we
are confident that this approach is best suited to resolving the matters highlighted to us. We look forward
to hearing from you in due course and welcome your continued support.
Kind Regards,
UNDER
From: Planning Portal <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Sent: 10 March 2023 16:31
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Application Submitted: PP‐11993735 ‐ Non‐Material Amendment
Dear -
An update on your application.
Your Non-Material Amendment application with the reference number PP-11993735 has now been
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submitted to Croydon Council. We will email you when they have received your application.
Details of your application
Application Type: Non-Material Amendment
Reference number: PP-11993735
Applicant: Amin
Application site address: 533328, 162415
Submission date: 10/03/2023 16:31:29
Application Fee: £234.00
Total Service Charges: £32.20
View Application
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For more information on the progress of your application, please contact the Local Planning Authority as
the Planning Portal is not involved in the decision-making process.
Croydon Council
https://www.croydon.gov.uk/planningandregeneration/framework
02087266800
xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
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This email is for information only, please do not reply as the mailbox is not monitored. If you do need to
contact us at Planning Portal, you can email xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx or browse the FAQs on the
Planning Portal website.
Regards
The Planning Portal Team
The Planning Portal is an online application service provided by PortalPlanQuest and supports the
submission of planning application information to Local Planning Authorities in accordance with statutory
regulations.
PortalPlanQuest Limited (reg. no 09400439) is a joint venture between the Department for Levelling Up,
Housing & Communities (DLUHC) and TerraQuest Solutions Limited.
TerraQuest Solutions Limited is owned by Apse Capital Limited (reg no. 11620219).
www.planningportal.co.uk
Council services, online, 24/7 www.croydon.gov.uk/myaccount.
Please use this web site address to view the council's e-mail disclaimer - http://www.croydon.gov.uk/email-
disclaimer
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From:
Tucker, Louise
Sent:
06 April 2023 12:28
To:
; Penn, John; Southall, Carolyn
DISCLOSED
Subject:
RE: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
Thank you for the update and setting out your way forward. I will advise our Technical Support team that you will
not be proceeding with the application. Just to ensure you are aware, you need to fill out a full planning application
form when you submit through the Portal.
Kind regards,
Louise Tucker
Principal Planning Officer
Development Management (South Area Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
UNDER
Croydon
CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6800
Please note I do not work Monday mornings or Fridays
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 12:04 PM
To: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn,
John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi Louise / John,
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Following the below we will look to submit the S73a by 5pm on 13th April as requested.
We don't believe the 23/01017/NMA has been validated / registered yet, so are happy to leave this as
unregister or withdrawn as suggested.
We will be in touch.
Regards,
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From: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 06 April 2023 10:43
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Southall,
Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
DISCLOSED
Subject: RE: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
I understand you have been advised a number of times that a Section 73A application is required, as well as the
clear reasons why this is the case. The street scene drawing included within the 2018 application documents clearly
showed the relationship and the height of the development with the adjoining properties. That drawing was
included in your application documents and included on the decision notice, and there is a condition requiring you
to carry out the development in accordance with your application documents, which you have not. Taking into
account the extent of the discrepancy in the survey and the drawing particularly in relation to number 10, you need
to submit a full retrospective planning application (under Section 73A) to seek permission to retain what has been
constructed. This will then be considered against policy.
Regarding the decision process for a S73A application, this is a full planning application and so would be subject to
the usual committee referral processes as set out in the Constitution which is available on the Council’s website, i.e.
if a referral from a Cllr or a registered Residents Association is received or 12 or more representations received.
Please advise by the deadline John has given that either:
You will withdraw the NMA application and submit a S73A application, or
You wish to proceed to a determination on the NMA which will be refused as set out above
Otherwise, as John has advised, we will have no option but to proceed to formal enforcement action.
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Kind regards,
Louise Tucker
Principal Planning Officer
Development Management (South Area Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
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Croydon
CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6800
Please note I do not work Monday mornings or Fridays
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 10:07 AM
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
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Hi John,
Thank you for your email as mentioned in my previous email we intend to resolve this issue.
Please can you ask senior management 2 questions for us:
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a) What changes do they deem to be "non material"
and
b) If a section 73A application is submitted would this be determined via delegated decision and not via
comittee? . We have asked this question a few times now and have not had any clarity on the matter.
I look forward to hearing from you shortly on this
Thanks
From: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 06 April 2023 09:52
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
UNDER
Carolyn Southall is currently on leave, but senior managers today have discussed your recent
application 23/01017/NMA.
The council considers that the changes are material and I have been informed that the planning
department propose to refuse this application next week.
As advised previously, the council considers that this development requires a full
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retrospective Section 73A application.
Therefore, if you wish you could withdraw the current NMA application and submit the requested
Section 73A.
If you wish to do this, please notify the council by 5pm on 13th April 2023, and submit the new
application.
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Please note that you have now had many months to submit this application, but have failed to do
so.
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If a Section 73A application is not submitted the council will have no choice but to
commence formal enforcement action.
I have tried to let you resolve the on-site issues via the planning process. An enforcement notice,
if served, may require full demolition of the current build and could also lead to criminal
prosecution. Therefore, this has the potential to become very serious for you.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
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Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
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From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 05 April 2023 11:47
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Without Prejudice ‐Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
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Dear Caroylyn,
DISCLOSED
Re: Without Prejudice ‐ Private and Confidential ‐ Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2
0LE
Dear Carolyn,
Thank you for your email regarding the planning application for 12 The Ridge Way, CR2 0LE. We appreciate your
communication and would like to request clarification on the reasons why we are required to submit a Section 73A
application instead of a non‐material amendment (NMA) application. We have previously demonstrated that our
case is not similar to the Choice Place case, and we remain unclear as to why a Section 73A application is necessary
in this case. We have already had a approved NMA determination with this application.
We would appreciate it if you could provide clear reasons for this requirement so that we can address any concerns
quickly and efficiently. In the event that we are required to submit a Section 73A application, we would also like to
understand whether this will be determined under delegated decision or if it will be passed into committee. This is
an important consideration for us, as we need to fully understand the process and the associated time and financial
resources required.
UNDER
We have previously requested a meeting with senior members of the council to discuss this matter further and
would appreciate it if you could confirm whether such a meeting can be arranged. We are committed to resolving
any concerns you may have and remain highly motivated to do so.
Finally, we would like to note that we feel we are being unfairly targeted in this matter, likely due to inaccurate
public criticism
We hope to work together to find a positive
resolution for all parties involved.
EIR
Thank you for your assistance in this matter, and we look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best regards,
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From: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 05 April 2023 11:00
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
DISCLOSED
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
I refer to planning reference 23/01017/NMA for which I note you are not using a planning agent.
Senior Management have stated that you need to submit a Section 73A application in relation to the above
property, therefore please advise when this will be submitted?
I am away until 18 April, therefore please reply to either Louise Tucker or John Penn directly should you wish to
respond prior to my return.
Regards
Carolyn
From: Penn, John
Sent: 10 March 2023 17:36
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
UNDER
Thank you for your email. I note the contents. I have forwarded it to our senior managers and will
get back to you in due course.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
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020 8726 6800
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 10 March 2023 17:19
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear Carolyn & John,
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Planning Update/Submission @ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE Hope all is well. Please see below confirmation of our recent planning submission for the above property
as submitted today 10.03.2023.
DISCLOSED
I have attached our cover letter addressed to you both explaining our position and our approach to
regularising matters on site at 12 The Ridge Way which we hope will receive your support. In addition to
this, I have attached a full copy of the planning application submission for your own reference and records
( This is also referenced in the below email trail ). Please find attached :
1. Cover Letter 12 The Ridge Way
2. 12 The Ridge Way ‐ S96a COPY OF SUBMISSION
Following new advice and a high court case with similarities to the current situation at The Ridge Way we
are confident that this approach is best suited to resolving the matters highlighted to us. We look forward
to hearing from you in due course and welcome your continued support.
Kind Regards,
UNDER
From: Planning Portal <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Sent: 10 March 2023 16:31
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Application Submitted: PP‐11993735 ‐ Non‐Material Amendment
Dear -
An update on your application.
Your Non‐Material Amendment application with the reference number PP‐11993735 has now been submitted to
Croydon Council. We will email you when they have received your application.
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Details of your application
Application Type: Non-Material Amendment
Reference number: PP-11993735
Applicant: Amin
Application site address: 533328, 162415
Submission date: 10/03/2023 16:31:29
Application Fee: £234.00
Total Service Charges: £32.20
View Application
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For more information on the progress of your application, please contact the Local Planning Authority as the
Planning Portal is not involved in the decision‐making process.
Croydon Council
https://www.croydon.gov.uk/planningandregeneration/framework
02087266800
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xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
This email is for information only, please do not reply as the mailbox is not monitored. If you do need to contact us
at Planning Portal, you can email xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx or browse the FAQs on the Planning Portal website.
Regards
The Planning Portal Team
The Planning Portal is an online application service provided by PortalPlanQuest and supports the submission of
planning application information to Local Planning Authorities in accordance with statutory regulations.
PortalPlanQuest Limited (reg. no 09400439) is a joint venture between the Department for Levelling Up, Housing &
Communities (DLUHC) and TerraQuest Solutions Limited.
TerraQuest Solutions Limited is owned by Apse Capital Limited (reg no. 11620219).
www.planningportal.co.uk
Council services, online, 24/7 www.croydon.gov.uk/myaccount.
Please use this web site address to view the council's e‐mail disclaimer ‐ http://www.croydon.gov.uk/email‐
disclaimer
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Council services, online, 24/7 www.croydon.gov.uk/myaccount.
Please use this web site address to view the council's e‐mail disclaimer ‐ http://www.croydon.gov.uk/email‐
disclaimer
Council services, online, 24/7 www.croydon.gov.uk/myaccount.
Please use this web site address to view the council's e‐mail disclaimer ‐ http://www.croydon.gov.uk/email‐
disclaimer
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From:
To:
Southall, Carolyn
; Penn, John
Cc:
Subject:
Re: 12 The Ridge Way Site visit
Date:
29 August 2023 12:29:44
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Hi Carolyn,
Would you be available to conduct the site visit next Friday 8th ?
Regards,
From: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 29 August 2023 11:59
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: 12 The Ridge Way Site visit
When: 07 September 2023 13:00-13:30.
Where: Microsoft Teams Meeting
, I'll let you know if we need to enter any specific units before we meet.
________________________________________________________________________________
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Microsoft Teams meeting
Join on your computer, mobile app or room device
Click here to join the meeting
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Please use this web site address to view the council's e-mail disclaimer -
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http://www.croydon.gov.uk/email-disclaimer
From:
Penn, John
Sent:
05 May 2023 21:00
To:
Leonard, Amanda
DISCLOSED
Cc:
Southall, Carolyn; Tucker, Louise
Subject:
RE: 12 The Ridge Way
Thanks Amanda
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
From: Leonard, Amanda
Sent: 05 May 2023 18:32
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
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Subject: RE: 12 The Ridge Way
Hi John,
Just to let you know that we have now received the application under LPA reference, 23/01763/FUL.
Amanda
Amanda Leonard
Technical Support Officer
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Development Management (Technical Support Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone A/B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon
CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6800
e‐mail: xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
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From: Penn, John
Sent: 03 May 2023 10:49
To: Leonard, Amanda <xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: RE: 12 The Ridge Way
Many thanks Amanda,
I will chase the applicant.
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
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From: Leonard, Amanda
Sent: 03 May 2023 10:48
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: RE: 12 The Ridge Way
Hi John,
Hope you’re keeping well.
The application is still sitting as a draft the applicant has yet to pay the fee of £4158 + the planning portal’s
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service charge.
I would advise officers to encourage the applicant to settle the fee which in turn will enable us to download
the application.
Amanda
Amanda Leonard
Technical Support Officer
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Development Management (Technical Support Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone A/B
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Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon
CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6800
e‐mail: xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
From: Penn, John
Sent: 02 May 2023 13:33
To: Leonard, Amanda <xxxxxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: 12 The Ridge Way
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Hi Amanda,
Are you able to interrogate the Planning Portal. The developer is submitting a Section 73A
application but it seems stuck since mid April.
The reference he has supplied is
PP‐12085248v1
Many thanks,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
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Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
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From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent:
03 May 2023 18:51
To:
Penn, John
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Cc:
Tucker, Louise;
; Southall, Carolyn
Subject:
Re: Planning Update - Sec 73A - 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi John
Payment was processed on Friday but due to the bank holidays it may take a while to settle.
On 3 May 2023, at 10:53, Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
Dear
,
Your application has still not been forwarded to the council. I therefore asked one of
our planning admin team to find out the reason that it is stuck on the Planning Portal.
She has informed me that:- The application is still sitting as a draft the applicant has yet to
pay the fee of £4158 + the planning portal’s service charge.
Therefore these fees need to be paid before it will be forwarded to the
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council. Please arrange prompt payment, as I really need progress in this matter.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
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From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 18 April 2023 09:18
To: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn, John
<xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: Planning Update ‐ Sec 73A ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi Louise,
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Thank you for your email.
is away until next week however I have checked with admin and
they have said payment should settle by the end of the week if not early next week latest, this has
been paid.
Kind Regards
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On 17 Apr 2023, at 14:33, Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
Thanks for the update
we await payment of the fee so it is transferred
through to us via the Portal.
Kind regards,
Louise Tucker
Principal Planning Officer
Development Management (South Area Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon
CR0 1EA
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Tel: 020 8726 6800
Please note I do not work Monday mornings or Fridays
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 12:05 PM
To: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Planning Update ‐ Sec 73A ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi all,
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Please see below confirmation email with regards to the Section 73A
application as submitted via the Planning Portal under reference ‐
PP‐
12085248v1 Please keep us updated on the determination process and don't hesitate to
get in touch if you require any further information in support of the
application.
Kind Regards,
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From: noreply‐xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx <noreply‐
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Sent: 13 April 2023 11:59
To: Stone Build Developments <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Stone Build
Developments <xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: Payment is required for your planning application 12085248v1
Dear
,
Stonebuild Developments Ltd has completed a planning application PP-12085248v1 which
refers to Easting: 533328 Northing: 162415 using the Planning Portal and has nominated you
to pay the application fee.
Payment is now required before the application can be submitted to LB of Croydon.
Amount due:
Total amount: £4190.20
Your payment reference is: PP12085248v1EGL
CLICK HERE TO PAY
(Pay online, by phone, bank transfer or cheque)
CLICK HERE TO CANCEL AND RETURN THE PAYMENT
REQUEST
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If the link does not work, please cut and paste the below URL into your web browser.
https://fts.planningportal.co.uk/pay/909711b9-fc74-4712-ac4b-d3b1691ebb01
Please note: The application will not be submitted to the Local Authority until payment has
been received by the Planning Portal. Please do not pay the Local Authority directly as your
application will not be submitted.
You will continue to receive email reminders until you have made payment or rejected the
nomination. After seven calendar days, the payment request will expire and Stonebuild
Developments Ltd will be informed that payment is still outstanding, and the application has
not been submitted.
Please do not reply to this email as the mailbox is not monitored.
For answers to common questions, please browse our FAQs or if you need technical help,
[www.planningportal.co.uk/help]visit our help page.
Planning Portal Team
The Planning Portal is an online application service provided by PortalPlanQuest and supports the submission of planning application
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information to Local Planning Authorities in accordance with statutory regulations.
PortalPlanQuest Limited (reg. no 09400439) is a joint venture between the Ministry of Housing Communities & Local Government (MHCLG)
and TerraQuest Solutions Limited.
TerraQuest Solutions Limited is owned by Apse Capital Limited (reg no. 11620219).
www.planningportal.co.uk
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From: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 06 April 2023 12:28
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: RE: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
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Dear
Thank you for the update and setting out your way forward. I will advise our
Technical Support team that you will not be proceeding with the application. Just to
ensure you are aware, you need to fill out a full planning application form when you
submit through the Portal.
Kind regards,
Louise Tucker
Principal Planning Officer
Development Management (South Area Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon
CR0 1EA
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Tel: 020 8726 6800
Please note I do not work Monday mornings or Fridays
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 12:04 PM
To: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi Louise / John,
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Following the below we will look to submit the S73a by 5pm on 13th April as
requested.
We don't believe the 23/01017/NMA has been validated / registered yet, so
are happy to leave this as unregister or withdrawn as suggested.
We will be in touch.
Regards,
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From: Tucker, L
ouise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 06 April 2023 10:43
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Penn, John
<xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Southall, Carolyn
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<xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: RE: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
I understand you have been advised a number of times that a Section 73A
application is required, as well as the clear reasons why this is the case. The street
scene drawing included within the 2018 application documents clearly showed the
relationship and the height of the development with the adjoining properties. That
drawing was included in your application documents and included on the decision
notice, and there is a condition requiring you to carry out the development in
accordance with your application documents, which you have not. Taking into
account the extent of the discrepancy in the survey and the drawing particularly in
relation to number 10, you need to submit a full retrospective planning application
(under Section 73A) to seek permission to retain what has been constructed. This
will then be considered against policy.
Regarding the decision process for a S73A application, this is a full planning
application and so would be subject to the usual committee referral processes as set
out in the Constitution which is available on the Council’s website, i.e. if a referral
from a Cllr or a registered Residents Association is received or 12 or more
representations received.
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Please advise by the deadline John has given that either:
1. You will withdraw the NMA application and submit a S73A application, or
2. You wish to proceed to a determination on the NMA which will be refused
as set out above
Otherwise, as John has advised, we will have no option but to proceed to formal
enforcement action.
Kind regards,
Louise Tucker
Principal Planning Officer
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Development Management (South Area Team)
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
6th Floor, Zone B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon
CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6800
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Please note I do not work Monday mornings or Fridays
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 10:07 AM
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To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Southall, Carolyn
<xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Hi John,
Thank you for your email as mentioned in my previous email we intend to
resolve this issue.
Please can you ask senior management 2 questions for us:
a) What changes do they deem to be "non material"
and
b) If a section 73A application is submitted would this be determined via
delegated decision and not via comittee? . We have asked this question a
few times now and have not had any clarity on the matter.
I look forward to hearing from you shortly on this
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Thanks
From: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 06 April 2023 09:52
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn
<xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Tucker, Louise <xxxxxx.xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
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Dear
Carolyn Southall is currently on leave, but senior managers today have
discussed your recent application 23/01017/NMA.
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The council considers that the changes are material and I have been
informed that the planning department propose to refuse this
application next week.
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As advised previously, the council considers that this
development requires a full retrospective Section 73A application.
Therefore, if you wish you could withdraw the current NMA application
and submit the requested Section 73A.
If you wish to do this, please notify the council by 5pm on 13th April
2023, and submit the new application.
Please note that you have now had many months to submit this
application, but have failed to do so.
If a Section 73A application is not submitted the council will have
no choice but to commence formal enforcement action.
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I have tried to let you resolve the on-site issues via the planning
process. An enforcement notice, if served, may require full demolition
of the current build and could also lead to criminal
prosecution. Therefore, this has the potential to become very serious
for you.
Kind regards,
EIR
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
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From:
Southall, Carolyn
Sent:
03 March 2023 10:10
To:
Penn, John
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Subject:
RE: Project Update - 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Well done for getting some movement on this John. Hopefully an application will be in soon.
Carolyn
From: Penn, John
Sent: 02 March 2023 17:46
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
Marks, Katy <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Slominski2, Jan <xxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: RE: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
Thank you for your update.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
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Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 02 March 2023 16:23
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
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Marks, Katy <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Slominski2, Jan <xxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear John
Thanks for your email,
has had to take some unforeseen absence for the next couple of weeks. I am
looking into this and hopefully can get something across to you in the next fortnight when I am up to speed.
We appreciate that, and can highlight that we would also like to resolve this via the planning process.
Kind Regards
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On 2 Mar 2023, at 12:54, Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
Dear
,
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No application has been received. Can you please supply an update as to how and
when your client intends to resolve this matter?
I’m trying to allow you the opportunity to resolve it via the planning process, but it
remains a planning enforcement case file.
You have now had many months to submit the requested new application and I now
need some movement in this case.
Kind regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
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From: Penn, John
Sent: 09 February 2023 14:04
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Southall, Carolyn
<xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Marks, Katy <xxxx.xxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Slominski2, Jan
<xxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: RE: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Dear
EIR
Following your recent emails I have just had a discussion with senior planning
officers about the site.
I draw your attention to the email I sent on 22-12-21 at 09.08, where I sent the
following:-
As you are aware from our previous correspondence and conversations the council
was subject to a legal challenge over the way it deals with these planning
applications, and also the summer High Court decision that requires plans showing
adjoining properties to be accurate.
The head of planning has stated:-
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The street scene drawing included within the 2018 application documents clearly
showed the relationship and the height of the development with the adjoining
properties. That drawing was included in the application documents submitted by the
applicant and included on the decision notice it therefore forms part of the
application and the approved documents.. Taking into account the extent of the
discrepancy in the survey and the drawing particularly in relation to number 10 it is
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my opinion that the applicant/developer needs to submit a full retrospective planning
application (under Sec73A) to seek permission to retain what has been constructed.
This can then be considered against policy. Therefore, all the current works are entirely at your own risk, until a new Section 73A
retrospective planning application is submitted and approved. When submitting a new application you might consider the right side of your build
(when viewed from the street). Obviously the house on the right side is considerably
lower than shown on the original plans and the adjoining neighbour now has far
more intrusion from overlooking than originally envisaged. Therefore, you might
wish to consider obscure glazing along this side elevation, or another solution as I
suspect that this might be an area of concern/objection.
After consideration today I write to inform you that the councils position has
not changed and a Section 73A application is invited to resolve this matter. Can you please notify me when this will be submitted?
Kind regards.
John
John Penn MSc
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Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
From: Southall, Carolyn
Sent: 31 January 2023 11:45
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
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Subject: FW: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 06 January 2023 13:12
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Afternoon Carolyn,
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Thanks for your time and phone call this morning. I have reattached the relevant drawings
and information as requested.
Hopefully upon review of the attached drawings, particularly drawings AB006 & AB014, and
seeing the finished build you will agree that the development has been built correctly. Our
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team, representatives and consultants are confident that we have satisfied the
requirements of the original permission from a legal and planning perspective. The
fundamental characteristics and aspects of the building have been constructed in
accordance with permission 18/05896/FUL.
It is our understanding that some of the planning drawings have been misunderstood and
misinterpreted as the development being constructed too high and not being built
correctly. This is not the case. The discrepancy lies outside of the application site and solely
relates to how No.10 The Ridge Way is represented on the street scene drawing. No.12 The
Ridge Way has been built as per the approved plans in accordance with the context and
parameters within the site.
The attached drawings and as built development clearly demonstrate compliance with the
45 degree rule, and therefore no greater impact or overlooking has arisen on either
neighbouring properties beyond that approved. It is also evident that the ridge height of
No.12 The Ridge Way has been built correctly in reference to the neighbouring property at
No.14 The Ridge Way, and is within the parameters of the footprint, height and massing of
the original property that was demolished / replaced.
We hope the applications ( PP‐10338311 ‐ Windows & 21/03404/CONR ‐ External bricks)
already submitted and currently held within the portal / planning register should be
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adequate to address the changes on site where the scale and/or nature results in a
development which is not substantially different from the one which has been approved,
and we hope these can be approved at delegated power without delay to conclude matters.
We are aware that the council are experiencing complaints and criticism from local
residents on several flatted developments within the borough, receiving accusations that
some sites are in breach of planning. Our representatives feel that we have been wrongly
associated with these developments and don’t believe this is the case as the as built
development is in accordance with the scale, footprint and massing of the approved
consent. We hope the council will agree. As mentioned we are keen to close this matter and
would be happy to facilitate where possible.
We welcome the continued support and advice of the LPA, and look forward to your EIR
feedback within the next week or so.
Kind Regards,
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From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: 05 January 2023 18:05
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
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Hi Carolyn,
Happy New Year.
We would be most grateful for your update and advice in response to our submission
package back in August 2021. Hopefully by now you and the planning team have had a
chance to fully review the project and are able to revert with some feedback / clarity.
Kind Regards,
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Sent: 19 October 2022 09:25
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Morning Carolyn,
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Hope all is well.
No problem at all. I've reattached the link with individual drawings within. Any problems let
me know.
https://we.tl/t‐Aw7wW2mPEe
To help protect you r priv acy, Microsoft Office prevented automatic download of this picture from the Internet.
Application Form.pdf and 17 more files
18 files sent via WeTransfer, the simplest way to send your files
around the world
we.tl
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Regards,
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From: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 13 October 2022 13:47
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Good afternoon
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I’m terribly sorry, but I totally missed this and now the link has expired.
We have a few problems opening these links, so if possible, could you please send individual
drawings and we’ll respond?
Many thanks
Carolyn
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 01 August 2022 10:21
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Project Update ‐ 12 The Ridge Way CR2 0LE
Good morning Carolyn,
Hope all is well. Please find attached our initial submission and drawings in relation to the
councils request for a Section 73A application to be submitted in relation to the works being
carried out on site pertaining to permission 18/05896/FUL.
https://we.tl/t‐NZJbS18UJG
Grateful for your guidance and assistance on the matter.
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Look forward to hearing from you in due course.
Regards,
From:
Sent: 17 March 2022 11:03
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>;
builddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 12 The Ridge Way ‐ Update
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Morning Carolyn,
Hope all is well. Following the recent email communication below, we are preparing the relevant
drawings and documents to make the necessary planning submission for the site as per the council’s
recommendations.
As with the original application, our intention is to submit a pre‐planning application prior to a
formal submission in order to engage with the council and gain the advice and support from the LPA
to ensure the application package is water‐tight prior to any public consultation. This will put us in
good stead moving forward as before. I assume this require a Level E or Level C service. Should I
send this to you directly or development management.?
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Given the principle of the development is as per the original approval, we assume the LPA will be
supportive of the application, and will also be able to comment/advise on any areas which may be
relevant within the new emerging policy.
Thanks again for your continued support.
Kind Regards,
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On 1 Mar 2022, at 14:38, Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
Dear
,
Can you please provide an update as to when the section 73A application will be
submitted? The current build is unauthorised (owing to the inaccuracy of the approved
plans, and on site changes) as it does not have planning consent. The planning officer also
requires confirmation that you with to withdraw your two current applications, which
includes the brick slips.
The new 73A application needs to cover everything that is being constructed along with the
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proposed finished development.
Regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
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From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 01 March 2022 15:00
To: Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx; Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: 12 The Ridge Way
Hi John,
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will revert to the time frames as we are working the pack up at the moment. Unfortunately
the staff on site were subjected to racial abuse from the neighbours so we have been handling that
the last couple of weeks.
Regards
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On 1 Mar 2022, at 14:38, Penn, John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
Dear
Can you please provide an update as to when the section 73A application will be
submitted? The current build is unauthorised (owing to the inaccuracy of the
approved plans, and on site changes) as it does not have planning consent. The
planning officer also requires confirmation that you with to withdraw your two current
applications, which includes the brick slips.
The new 73A application needs to cover everything that is being constructed along
with the proposed finished development.
Regards,
John
John Penn MSc
Planning Enforcement Officer
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Bernard Weatherill House
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Floor 6, Zone B
8 Mint Walk
Croydon. CR0 1EA
020 8726 6800
From: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Sent: 18 January 2022 16:03
To:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Development Management
<xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Edwards, Tim
<xxx.xxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Townsend, Nicola <xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Penn,
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John <xxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: RE: URGENT ‐ Project @ 12 The Ridge Way ‐ CR2 0LE
Dear
I hope you are well.
Following up on your email of 4 January and nudge on 7 January, I have just come out of a meeting
regarding the way forward for this particular application. The meeting was attended by Nicola
Townsend, John Penn, Ross Gentry and Helen Furnell.
As John Penn has previously advised, a new application is required due to the work that has already
commenced on site and the discrepancy between the heights shown on the approved
streetscape/contextual drawings and what is actually there. We acknowledge and appreciate you
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providing us with accurate drawings which confirms the discrepancy. As a consequence of this,
there is no permission for the development.
Section 73A (2) (a) of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 sets out the way forward. You need
to submit a fresh application for all the work, existing and any proposed alterations to the
18/05896/FUL application, accompanied by the full planning fee and all necessary supporting
documents. The application will be subject to normal time frames, neighbours will be notified and
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consultees will be informed. The application will be determined based on current national, regional
and local policy and guidance ‐ Please be aware that the Croydon Local Plan is currently under review
and the Regulation 19 consultation is taking place until 17th February after which time it will be
submitted for independent examination. (You are encouraged to engage with the review of the Local
Plan, available on the following link: Croydon Local Plan review This review will update the vision and
strategy for Croydon’s growth up to 2039 and set out how the council will continue to deliver much
needed new homes, jobs and community facilities. I would draw your particular attention to DM10
and the proposed revised approach to intensification which is relevant.
As far as I am aware there are two outstanding applications, those being 21/03404/CONR and
21/05410/NMA. As there is no permission for which these applications seek to amend/vary, they
need to be withdrawn – a brief email would suffice.
You suggest a meeting and this would take the form of a pre‐paid preapplication submission, however
if all your concerns have been covered by this email this may not be necessary, although you are very
welcome to make the request.
I appreciate it has taken a while to get to this point, but hopefully everything is now clear and we
await the new application.
Kind regards
Carolyn
Carolyn Southall
Senior Planning Officer ‐ South Team
****PLEASE INCLUDE THE REFERENCE NUMBER IN ALL CORRESPONDENCE***
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Development Management
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Sustainable Communities, Regeneration and Economic Recovery
6th Floor, Zone A&B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon, CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6000
Email: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
I work Tuesday ‐ Friday each week.
In view of the current Covid 19 pandemic and Government guidelines and restrictions, we have felt obliged to
make some changes to the way we work.
We are now working more flexibly to ensure that we continue to provide good levels of service whilst EIR
adhering to advice offered by Public Heath England. Consequently, whilst it might take longer to reply to your
email, we are trying our best to maintain service standards for all our customers.
For more information, please visit https://www.croydon.gov.uk/planningandregeneration
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 07 January 2022 16:08
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Development Management
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Subject: Re: URGENT ‐ Project @ 12 The Ridge Way ‐ CR2 0LE
Hi Carolyn,
Thanks for the update, that's much appreciated. I will wait to hear from you, hopefully next
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Enjoy the w/e.
Kind regards,
From: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
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Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>; Edwards, Tim
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Subject: RE: URGENT ‐ Project @ 12 The Ridge Way ‐ CR2 0LE
Dear
Thank you for your email – I apologise for not responding sooner.
Given the issues involved I need to take advice and will endeavour to get back to you as soon as
possible.
Regards
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Carolyn
Carolyn Southall
Senior Planning Officer ‐ South Team
****PLEASE INCLUDE THE REFERENCE NUMBER IN ALL CORRESPONDENCE***
08/11/2021
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Development Management
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Sustainable Communities, Regeneration and Economic Recovery
6th Floor, Zone A&B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon, CR0 1EA
Tel: 020 8726 6000
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Email: xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
I work Tuesday ‐ Friday each week.
In view of the current Covid 19 pandemic and Government guidelines and restrictions, we have felt obliged to
make some changes to the way we work.
We are now working more flexibly to ensure that we continue to provide good levels of service whilst
adhering to advice offered by Public Heath England. Consequently, whilst it might take longer to reply to your
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email, we are trying our best to maintain service standards for all our customers.
For more information, please visit https://www.croydon.gov.uk/planningandregeneration
From:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk]
Sent: 04 January 2022 11:46
To: Southall, Carolyn <xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>; Development Management
<xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Cc:
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk>
Subject: URGENT ‐ Project @ 12 The Ridge Way ‐ CR2 0LE
Importance: High
Good morning Carolyn,
Happy New Year !
Project @ 12 The Ridge Way ‐ CR2 0LE We would really appreciate your urgent assistance with the ongoing matters at No 12 The
Ridge Way. Following the email received from Mr John Penn on 22/12/2021 we would be
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most grateful if we could arrange a meeting with yourself and the head of the planning
department prior to making a further submission to fully understand and address any
concerns you have. This would allow is to fully understand the process being suggested, and
some of the finer details such as the determination level, statutory periods, conditions, and
any benefits of a further pre‐planning application. This would also be a good opportunity to
have a discussion and gain some further clarity on some of the current NMA and CONR
applications which are still pending in the planning system, awaiting determination.
We would be happy to meet at your offices or set up a zoom / teams video call, but feel it
would be very beneficial for all at this stage to have a discussion and get an understanding
of the full picture. If you could perhaps suggest some dates we will accommodate wherever
possible.
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I look forward to hearing from you, or feel free to call me on
Kind Regards,
Council services, online, 24/7 www.croydon.gov.uk/myaccount.
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Application for a Non-Material Amendment Following a Grant of Planning Permission
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Town and Country Planning Act 1990 (as amended)
Publication of applications on planning authority websites
Please note that the information provided on this application form and in supporting documents may be published on the Authority's website. If you
require any further clarification, please contact the Authority's planning department.
Site Location
Disclaimer: We can only make recommendations based on the answers given in the questions.
If you cannot provide a postcode, the description of site location must be completed. Please provide the most accurate site description you can, to
help locate the site - for example "field to the North of the Post Office".
Number
12
TION –
Suffix
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Property Name
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Address Line 1
The Ridge Way
Address Line 2
Address Line 3
APPLICA
Not valid for
Town/city
Postcode
submission
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CR2 0LE
Description of site location must be completed if postcode is not known:
Easting (x)
Northing (y)
533328
162415
Description
Planning Portal Reference:
Applicant Details
Name/Company
Title
Mr
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First name
Surname
Amin
Company Name
Stonebuild Developments Ltd
Address
Address line 1
12 The Ridge Way
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Address line 2
DRAFT
Address line 3
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Town/City
South Croydon
County
Country
APPLICA
Not valid for
Postcode
CR2 0LE
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Are you an agent acting on behalf of the applicant?
submission
Yes
No
Contact Details
Primary number
Secondary number
Planning Portal Reference:
Fax number
Email address
xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
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Eligibility
Does the applicant have an interest in the part of the land to which this amendment relates?
Yes
No
If the applicant is not the sole owner, has notification under Article 10 of the Town and Country Planning (Development Management Procedure)
(England) Order 2015 (as amended) been given?
Yes
No
Not applicable
Description of Your Proposal
Please provide the description of the approved development as shown on the decision letter
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Demolition of the existing building and erection of two/three storey building including basement and accommodation in the roof space to
provide 9 units. Associated parking/access, landscaping, cycle and refuse stores.
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Reference number
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18/05896/FUL
Date of decision
22/03/2019
What was the original application type?
Full planning permission
APPLICA
For the purpose of calculating fees, which of the following best describes the original development type?
Householder development: Development to an existing dwelling-house or development within its curtilage
Not valid for
Other: Anything not covered by the above category
submission
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Non-Material Amendment(s) Sought
Please describe the non-material amendment(s) you are seeking to make
Non-material amendment to planning permission ref. 18/05896/FUL (Demolition of the existing building and erection of two/three storey
building including basement and accommodation in the roof space to provide 9 units. Associated parking/access, landscaping, cycle and
refuse stores ) to amend the approved drawings to regularise the elevational context of the site in relation to neighbouring properties and
window / elevational amendments as required under condition 1.
Please state why you wish to make this amendment
Planning Portal Reference:
In order to regularise non-material drawing discrepancies and amendments to ensure an acceptable standard of development, as required
under condition 1.
Are you intending to substitute amended plans or drawings?
Yes
No
If yes, please complete the following details
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Old plan/drawing numbers
104D & 105D
New plan/drawing numbers
NMA9601, NMA9602, NMA9603
Site Visit
Can the site be seen from a public road, public footpath, bridleway or other public land?
Yes
No
TION –
If the planning authority needs to make an appointment to carry out a site visit, whom should they contact?
DRAFT
The agent
The applicant
Other person
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Pre-application Advice
Has assistance or prior advice been sought from the local authority about this application?
Yes
No
APPLICA
Not valid for
Authority Employee/Member
With respect to the Authority, is the applicant and/or agent one of the following: (a) a member of staff
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(b) an elected member
submission
(c) related to a member of staff (d) related to an elected member
It is an important principle of decision-making that the process is open and transparent.
For the purposes of this question, "related to" means related, by birth or otherwise, closely enough that a fair-minded and informed observer, having
considered the facts, would conclude that there was bias on the part of the decision-maker in the Local Planning Authority.
Do any of the above statements apply?
Yes
No
Planning Portal Reference:
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Planning Portal Reference:
PLANNING STATEMENT
RE: Aveline Apartments - 12 The Ridge Way – Croydon – CR2 0LE
1. This planning application is being made in order to ensure any necessary matters relating to the
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development at 12 The Ridge Way under planning approval
18/05896/FUL are regularised.
2. The use of a section 96A application is to make a non-material amendment to an existing
planning permission. The original planning permission
18/05896/FUL, taken as a whole, has
been implemented.
3. Section 96a of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990, amended by the Planning Act 2008,
permits applications for non-material amendment to planning permissions. This avoids the need
for a new planning application to be submitted, allowing instead for the existing permission to
be amended whilst remaining subject to the original conditions and time limits. Section 96A
provides:
(1) A local planning authority in England may make a change to any planning permission, or any
permission in principle (granted following an application to the authority), relating to land in
their area if they are satisfied that the change is not material.
(2) In deciding whether a change is material, a local planning authority must have regard to the
effect of the change, together with any previous changes made under this section, on the
planning permission or permission in principle as originally granted.
(3) The power conferred by subsection (1) includes power to make a change to a planning
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permission—
a. to impose new conditions;
b. to remove or alter existing conditions.
(4) The power conferred by subsection (1) may be exercised only on an application made by or
on behalf of a person with an interest in the land to which the planning permission or permission
in principle relates.
4. This s.96A application is being made to formalise the minor differences between the approved
plans and “as-built” development. This application route can be considered appropriate and
proportionate to the development, similarly to the Court of Appeal case
R (Fulford PC) v City of
York Council [2019] EWCA Civ 1359.
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5. The relevant history of the site is noted below:
5.1. On March 22nd 2019 Permission was granted for:
18/05896/FUL / Demolition of the
existing building and erection of two/three storey building including basement and
accommodation in the roof space to provide 9 units. Associated parking/access,
landscaping, cycle and refuse stores.
5.2. On August 28th 2020 Permission was granted to discharge pre-commencement conditions:
20/02594/DISC / Discharge of conditions 6 (WSI) and 13 (CLP) attached to planning
permission
5.3. In December 2020 works commenced on site
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5.4. On 26th April 2021 Permission was not approved for:
21/01583/NMA / Non-material
amendment to planning reference 18/05896/FUL (1. enlargement of lower ground
basement 2. use of brick slips). The LPA advised a Section 73 application to vary a condition
would need to be submitted.
5.5. On May 24th 2021 Permission was granted for:
21/02174/NMA / Non-material amendment
to planning reference 18/05896/FUL - Enlargement of lower ground basement
5.6. On 25th June 2021 an application was submitted to :
21/03404/CONR / vary condition 2
(materials) of planning permission 18/05896/FUL for the demolition of the existing
building and erection of two/three storey building including basement and
accommodation in the roof space to provide 9 units. Associated parking/access,
landscaping, cycle and refuse stores. This application is still pending 13 months later.
During dialogue with the case officer during the application process the application was
scheduled to be recommended for approval. Determination has subsequently been put on
hold.
5.7. On 26th October 2021 an application was submitted for :
PP-10338311 / A non-material
amendments for minor alterations to windows. This application has been received by the
LPA but we have not received confirmation of validation. Determination has subsequently
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been put on hold.
5.8. Building works commenced on the 7th December 2020 to implement planning permission
18/05896/FUL. Works to date have been constructed on the premise that planning
permission 18/05896/FUL is being implemented, alongside application 21/02174/NMA.
5.9. Works on site were completed in December 2022.
6. Whilst the fundamental characteristics and aspects of the building have been constructed in
accordance with permission 18/05896/FUL, the following minor amendments have been made
to the approved scheme which this application seeks approval:
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6.1 Elevational context of the neighbouring properties
6.2 Window / elevational amendments
7. The premise and principle of the original development as approved under
18/05896/FUL is
apparent in the as built structure in terms of massing, footprint, appearance, form, landscaping
etc. We are of the view that there has been no material amendments or deviation from to the
approved scheme that would have a material impact on the character of the area or
neighbouring properties.
Elevational context of the neighbouring properties
8. It is our understanding from communication with the council that that a discrepancy has been
highlighted in relation to the illustrative height and context of the neighbouring buildings, at No.
10 The Ridge Way. The reference and appearance in relation to No.14 would appear correct.
This is highlighted in the diagram below, showing the as approved street scene versus the as
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built street scene which includes additional topographical survey data. There is no material
difference arising from this change, nor would any change alter the original decision making
process. No.12 The Ridge Way sits comfortably within the streetscene adjacent No.10 & No.14,
as per the original planning permission accepts.
9. There appears to have been a misunderstanding and misinterpreted of the development being
constructed too incorrectly. This is not the case. The discrepancy lies outside of the application
site and solely relates to how No.10 The Ridge Way is represented on approved drawings 104D
& 105D as circled in red below. No.12 The Ridge Way has been built as per the approved plans in
accordance with the context and parameters within the site.
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10. The drawings contained within this submission clearly demonstrate that the proposed
amendments / regularisations would NOT have any detrimental impact in neighbouring
properties beyond that original approved and accepted under permission
18/05896/FUL .
11. The attached drawings reflect the true as built environment. Drawings
NMA96A01 and
NMA9602 clearly show compliance with the 45 degree outlook rule in the context of the
neighbouring properties as corrected. The 45 degree rule ( in plan and elevation ) are used to
measure potential impact on neighbouring properties. This demonstrates that no greater impact
or overlooking has arisen to either of the neighbouring properties beyond that approved, and
that the amendments will NOT have a material impact or change on the permission.
12. The development and permission refers solely to the structures and works contained within the
sites boundary that are to be physically built or altered, not the wider context or structures
outside of the application site. However, neighbouring context has been addressed within the
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accompanying drawings for clarity and properness.
Window / elevational amendments
13. The proposed minor amendments include 2 x additional velux windows to Flats 8 & 9 to provide
more natural light. These will be obscure and non-opening if below 1.7m. Flat 2 flank window
will be repositioned and made obscure. Flat 4 bedroom flank windows removed at ground floor
level. First Floor front bay windows altered from 3 panels to 4 x panels as a regularisation due to
a discrepancy found on the approved plans / elevations.
14. We do not believe the proposed window amendments to be considered material, and the
overall visual appearance of the scheme will remain in line with the approved details and built to
the highest quality. The quality, character and principle of the development will remain. The
reasoning for such application is due to practically and efficiency matters that commonly come
to light on site during construction. We are therefore exercising our right to submit the required
application for these changes.
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15. We believe it is evident from the attached drawings that any deviation from the approved plans
is non-material and does not fundamentally alter the development that has been approved.
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Where amendments on site have arisen, the necessary applications have been submitted as
referenced in the site history above.
16. The fundamental characteristics and aspects of the building have been constructed in
accordance with permission 18/05896/FUL. Our team and representatives can’t foresee any
planning or legal requirement for further submissions at this stage and there is no apparent
reason to withhold processing the application. This application should be adequate to address
the changes on site where the scale and/or nature results in a development which is not
substantially different from the one which has been approved, and we hope these can be
approved at delegated power without delay to conclude matters.
17. A section 96A application can be applied to situation where the environmental impacts of the
development have already been considered, and a decision has already been made that has
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taken into account the necessary public participations / consultations.
18. The current proposed / as-built drawings do not have an effect of altering the whole character of
the application, especially to an amount that would warrant a fresh application. Therefore there
is no good reason why the suggested amendments should not be permitted. Any impact owing
to neighbouring context would not fundamentally alter or impact the development on a whole
19. All proposed amendments are non-material and therefore should not require the submission of
an application for planning and should be considered trivial or inconsequential under planning
law, and regarded as
de minimis, that is legally of no consequence.
20. We welcome the continued support and advice of the LPA, and will continue to pro-actively
engage with the council to provide the required information to ensure all matters on site are
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regularised and addressed as appropriate in accordance with permission REF
18/05896/FUL .
21. If you require any further information to assist with the determination of the application then
please don’t hesitate to contact us.
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REGULARISE ELEVATIONAL
CONTEXT OF NEIGHBOURING
PROPERTY
No.14
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No.10
FRONT ELEVATION
45 DEGREE OUTLOOK
DEMONSTRATES
REGULARISE ELEVATIONAL
NO MATERIAL CHANGE
CONTEXT OF NEIGHBOURING
OR IMPACT CAUSED
PROPERTY
BEYOND THAT
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APPROVED
45 DEGREE OUTLOOK
DEMONSTRATES
NO MATERIAL CHANGE
OR IMPACT CAUSED
BEYOND THAT
APPROVED
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PRIVACY/ BOUNDARY
1.8M FENCING & 2M+ TREE PLANTING
AS PER ORIGINAL DRAWINGS
108D + 110D OF APPLICATION 18/05896/FUL
NO MATERIAL CHANGE OR IMPACT ON
NEIGHBOURING PRIVACY / OUTLOOK
REAR ELEVATION
PRIVACY/ BOUNDARY
NEW BOUNDARY FENCING & 2M+ TREE PLANTING
AS PER ORIGINAL DRAWINGS
SITE ADDRESS
108D + 110D OF APPLICATION 18/05896/FUL
AVELINE APARTMENTS
TO ENSURE PRIVACY
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
NO MATERIAL CHANGE OR IMPACT ON
NEIGHBOURING PRIVACY / OUTLOOK
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
NMA96 01
-
07.03.2023
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
1:100 / A2
ELEVATIONS
45 DEGREE OUTLOOK
DEMONSTRATES
NO MATERIAL CHANGE
OR IMPACT CAUSED
BEYOND THAT
APPROVED
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No.14
45 DEGREE OUTLOOK
DEMONSTRATES
NO MATERIAL CHANGE
OR IMPACT CAUSED
BEYOND THAT
APPROVED
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SITE PLAN 45 DEGREE - AS BUILT
SITE PLAN 45 DEGREE - AS BUILT
BLUE LINE IS ORIGINAL DWELLING
DEMOLISHED
SITE ADDRESS
AVELINE APARTMENTS
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
NMA96 02
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07.03.2023
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
SITE PLANS / OUTLOOK
1:200 / A2
WINDOWS REGULARISED
TO REFLECT APPROVED
ADD 1 x VELUX WINDOW
WINDOWS REGULARISED
PLANS 102revD
TO REFLECT APPROVED
WITH 4 X PANES
1 X EXTRA VELUX HAS NO MATERIAL CHANGE
PLANS 102revD
(drawing discrepancy)
BEYOND THE 4 x APPROVED UNDER THE
WITH 4 X PANES
ORIGINAL PERMISSION
(drawing discrepancy)
WINDOW REPOSITIONED
OBSCURE GLASS
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FRONT ELEVATION
SIDE ELEVATION
ADD 1 x VELUX WINDOW
1 X EXTRA VELUX HAS NO
MATERIAL CHANGE BEYOND
THE 5 x APPROVED UNDER
THE ORIGINAL PERMISSION
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OMIT 2 x FLANK WINDOWS
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REAR ELEVATION
SIDE ELEVATION
SITE ADDRESS
AVELINE APARTMENTS
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
NMA96 03
-
07.03.2023
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
1:100 / A2
ELEVATIONS
Stonebuild Developments Ltd
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Croydon Planning Department
Development Management
Planning and Sustainable Regeneration
Sustainable Communities, Regeneration and Economic Recovery
6th Floor, Zone A&B
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon, CR0 1EA
Dear Ms Southall & Mr Penn,
Development at 12 The Ridgeway, 18/0586/FUL
1. We write in respect of the above development, and in particular in respect of the issue
which the Council has identified relating to drawings 104 Rev D and 105 Rev D which
were approved under condition 1 of the above permission.
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2. We note that the Council has taken the view that these drawings do not accurately depict
the neighbouring dwelling at No.10 and that, accordingly, our client has been invited to
make a full retrospective planning application under s.73A of the Town and Country
Planning Act 1990 (“
TCPA”). The Council appears to be relying on a judgment of the
High Court in
Choiceplace Properties Ltd v SSHCLG [2021] EWHC 1070 to suggest that
the consequence of the above inaccuracy is that the development has not been built in
accordance with the permission.
3. We do not agree with that analysis, or that the
Choiceplace decision would be applied in
this case. However, without prejudice to our position that no regularisation is required,
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our client intends to submit a further application under s.96A TCPA. Although we note
that the Council would welcome an application under s.73A, we are aware that a s.96A
application can be submitted retrospectively. In
R (Fulford PC) v City of York Council
[2019] EWCA Civ 1359, the Court of Appeal expressly noted that
“one of the purposes of
section 96A was surely to formalise minor differences between, say, approved layout plans and “as-
built” development”.
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4. This is precisely the situation here. The discrepancy in the neighbouring elevational
drawings is minor and, in planning terms, is plainly non-material, having (for example)
no discernible impact on the amenity of No.10. We will provide further details in the
application which we intend to submit. We would ask that the Council refrain from
prejudging the application and from taking any further action until it is received.
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5. We are also aware that the Council has yet to determine the following additional s.96A &
s.73 applications relating to this development [21/03404/CONR & PP-10338311 & PP-
10338311]. We would ask that all such applications be determined at the same time or
shortly thereafter in order for all outstanding applications and matters on site to be
resolved.
Yours sincerely
Stonebuild Developments Ltd
12 The Ridge Way
Croydon
CR2 0LE
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Development Management
London Borough of Croydon
Place Department
6th Floor,
Bernard Weatherill House
8 Mint Walk
Croydon
CR0 1EA
PLANNING STATEMENT
Dear Planning Department,
RE: Aveline Apartments - 12 The Ridge Way – Croydon – CR2 0LE
PRE PLANNING ADVICE - 18/05896/FUL / Demolition of the existing building and erection of
two/three storey building including basement and accommodation in the roof space to provide 9
units. Associated parking/access, landscaping, cycle and refuse stores.
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This pre-planning application is being made on behalf of RSJ Estates Ltd, at the request of the LPA, in
order to ensure any necessary matters relating to the development at 12 The Ridge Way under
planning approval
18/05896/FUL are regularised. We would welcome assistance and clarity from the
LPA on what particular aspects of the build, if any, require to be regularised.
This application was originally submitted on 1st August 2022. Works on site are now complete and
development has been built as per the obtained permission. Pre-application discussions and written
advice are now required to establish whether the council deem that further applications or
regularisations are required.
The relevant history of the site is noted below:
1. On March 22nd 2019 Permission was granted for:
18/05896/FUL / Demolition of the existing
building and erection of two/three storey building including basement and
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accommodation in the roof space to provide 9 units. Associated parking/access,
landscaping, cycle and refuse stores.
2. On August 28th 2020 Permission was granted to discharge pre-commencement conditions:
20/02594/DISC / Discharge of conditions 6 (WSI) and 13 (CLP) attached to planning
permission
3. In December 2020 works commenced on site
4. On 26th April 2021 Permission was not approved for:
21/01583/NMA / Non-material
amendment to planning reference 18/05896/FUL (1. enlargement of lower ground
basement 2. use of brick slips). The LPA advised a Section 73 application to vary a condition
would need to be submitted.
5. On May 24th 2021 Permission was granted for:
21/02174/NMA / Non-material amendment
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to planning reference 18/05896/FUL - Enlargement of lower ground basement
6. On 25th June 2021 an application was submitted to :
21/03404/CONR / vary condition 2
(materials) of planning permission 18/05896/FUL for the demolition of the existing
building and erection of two/three storey building including basement and
accommodation in the roof space to provide 9 units. Associated parking/access,
landscaping, cycle and refuse stores. This application is still pending 13 months later. During
dialogue with the case officer during the application process the application was scheduled
to be recommended for approval. Determination has subsequently been put on hold.
7. On 26th October 2021 an application was submitted for :
PP-10338311 / A non-material
amendments for minor alterations to windows. This application has been received by the
LPA but we have not received confirmation of validation. Determination has subsequently
been put on hold.
8. Building works commenced on the 7th December 2020 to implement planning permission
18/05896/FUL. Works to date have been constructed on the premise that planning
permission 18/05896/FUL is being implemented, alongside application 21/02174/NMA.
9. Works on site were completed in December 2023.
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During the build a part topographical building survey was undertaken as requested by the LPA to
show confirmation of building heights and levels in relation to neighbouring structures due to
neighbour complaints.
This information was shared with the council. Our team, representatives and consultants are
confident that we have satisfied the requirements of the original permission from a legal and
planning perspective. The fundamental characteristics and aspects of the building have been
constructed in accordance with permission 18/05896/FUL.
Minor amendments have been made to the approved scheme which generally include:
a. Increase footprint of basement ( approved - 21/02174/NMA. )
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b. Variation to materials and use of brick slips due to original materials no longer being
in production at the time of construction. ( pending - 21/03404/CONR )
c. Minor Amendments to window positions ( pending - PP-10338311 )
The premise and principle of the original development as approved under
18/05896/FUL is
apparent in the as built structure in terms of massing, footprint, appearance, form, landscaping etc.
We are of the view that there has been no material amendments or deviation from to the approved
scheme that would have a material impact on the character of the area or neighbouring properties.
It is our understanding that the crux of complaints raised from neighbours is with reference to the
illustrative height and context of the neighbouring building at No. 10 The Ridge Way. This is
highlighted in the diagram below, showing the as approved street scene versus the as built street
scene which includes topographical survey data.
This drawing appears to have been misunderstood and misinterpreted as the development being
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constructed too high and not being built correctly. This is not the case. The discrepancy lies outside
of the application site and solely relates to how No.10 The Ridge Way is represented on the drawing.
No.12 The Ridge Way has been built as per the approved plans in accordance with the context and
parameters within the site.
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The drawings contained within this submission clearly demonstrate compliance with the 45 degree
rule, and therefore no greater impact or overlooking has arisen to either of the neighbouring
properties beyond that approved. It is also evident that the ridge height of No.12 The Ridge Way has
been built correctly, particularly with reference to the neighbouring property at No.14 The Ridge
Way. The development has been constructed within the parameters of the footprint, height and
massing of the original property that was demolished / replaced. It should also be noted that the
existing dwelling demolished to facilitate the scheme was much larger than that build.
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Any potential discrepancy with respect to the neighbouring context would not fundamentally alter
or impact the development on a whole. Nor would the neighbouring context form part of the
approved permission. The development and permission refers solely to the structures and works
contained within the sites boundary that are to be physically built or altered, not the wider context
or structures outside of the application site.
We believe it is evident from the attached drawings that any deviation from the approved plans is
not material and does not fundamentally alter the development that has been approved. Where
amendments on site have arisen, the necessary applications have been submitted as referenced in
the site history above.
The fundamental characteristics and aspects of the building have been constructed in accordance
with permission 18/05896/FUL. Our team and representatives can’t foresee any planning or legal
requirement for further submissions at this stage and there is no apparent reason to withhold the
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granting of the applications REF: PP-10338311 - Windows & REF: 21/03404/CONR - External bricks
that are currently within the portal / planning register. These applications should be adequate to
address the changes on site where the scale and/or nature results in a development which is not
substantially different from the one which has been approved, and we hope these can be approved
at delegated power without delay to conclude matters.
We are aware that the council are experience complaints and criticism from local residents on
several flatted developments within the borough, receiving accusations that some sites are in breach
of planning. Our representatives feel that we have been wrongly associated with these
developments and don’t believe this is the case. The as built development is in accordance with the
scale, footprint and massing of the approved consent. We hope the council will agree. As mentioned
we are keen to close this matter and would be happy to facilitate where possible.
We welcome the continued support and advice of the LPA, and look forward to your feedback. If the
council require any further information or details, then please don’t hesitate to contact us.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
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Stonebuild Developments Ltd
32-34 Fairview Road
London
SW16 5PT
02079711252
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk
@stonebuilddevelopments.co.uk
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AS BUILT / PROPOSED
AS APPROVED - 18/05896/FUL
FRONT ELEVATION
FRONT ELEVATION
DISCLOSED
SIDE ELEVATION
SIDE ELEVATION
UNDER
REAR ELEVATION
REAR ELEVATION
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SITE ADDRESS
AVELINE APARTMENTS
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
AB005
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27.07.2022
SIDE ELEVATION
SIDE ELEVATION
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
1:200 / A2
ELEVATIONS
DISCLOSED
FRONT ELEVATION
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
UNDER
EIR
FRONT ELEVATION
SITE ADDRESS
AVELINE APARTMENTS
AS APPROVED - 18/05896/FUL
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
AB006
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27.07.2022
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
1:100 / A2
STREETSCENE
DISCLOSED
REAR ELEVATION
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
UNDER
EIR
SITE ADDRESS
AVELINE APARTMENTS
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
REAR ELEVATION
AB007
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27.07.2022
AS APPROVED - 18/05896/FUL
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
1:100 / A2
STREETSCENE
05
06
01
03
FRONT ELEVATION
01 - BRICKWORK ( SLIPS )
DISCLOSED
SILVER GREY - BRICK SLIPS UK
HANDMADE CLAY - TEXTURED
210mm x 65mm x 20mm
04
01
SIDE ELEVATION
02 - BRICKWORK ( SLIPS )
MANHATTAN WHITE - BRICK SLIPS UK
HANDMADE CLAY - TEXTURED
210mm x 65mm x 20mmUNDER
04
06
01
07
08
08
02
07
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REAR ELEVATION
03 - RENDER
04 - TILES
05 - DORMERS
06 - FASCIA & SOFFIT
SMOOTH WHITE
MARLEY MODERN CONCRETE
SMOOTH SLATE GREY
INTERLOCKING
(AS BUILT)
SQUARE FLOPLAST
SMOOTH GREY
UPVC BLACK/GREY
420mm x 300mm
04
SITE ADDRESS
01
AVELINE APARTMENTS
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
02
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
AB009
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27.07.2022
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
SIDE ELEVATION
AS BUILT / PROPOSED
1:200 / A2
MATERIALS
07 - SLIDING DOORS
08 - BALUSTRADE
CORTIZO SYSTEM
TOUGHENED GLASS
BLACK ALUMINIUM
AEROFOIL SYSTEM
DISCLOSED
FRONT ELEVATION
DWELLING DEMOLISHED
UNDER
FRONT ELEVATION
APPROVED 18/05896
LINE INDICATES EXTENT OF
ORIGINAL DWELLING DEMOLISHED
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LINE INDICATES EXTENT OF
APPROVAL
SITE ADDRESS
AVELINE APARTMENTS
12 THE RIDGE WAY - SOUTH CROYDON - CR2 0LE
DRAWING No.
REV
ISSUE DATE
AB014
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27.07.2022
DRAWING NAME
SCALE
ELEVATIONAL STUDY
1:100 / A2
FRONT ELEVATION
AS BUILT
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