Weights and capacities of the prototype New Bus for London
Dear Transport for London,
Could I request the following:
1) The delivery and first service date for each of the nine New Bus for London prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London (LT1-LT9)
2) The official kerb weight for each of the nine New Bus for London prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London
3) The placarded capacity (upstairs seating/downstairs seating/downstairs standing) for each of the nine New Bus for London prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London
Yours faithfully,
Tom Barry
Dear Mr Barry
TfL Ref: FOI-.787-1213
Thank you for your email received by Transport for London (TfL) on 13
August 2012 asking for information about the New Bus for London.
Your request will be processed in accordance with the requirements of the
Freedom of Information Act and TfL’s information access policy.
A response will be provided to you by 11 September 2012.
In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please
do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours sincerely
Eva Rozmahelova
FOI Case Officer
FOI Case Management Team
Corporate Governance Directorate
General Counsel
Transport for London
Dear Mr Barry
TfL Ref: FOI-.787-1213
Thank you for your email received by Transport for London (TfL) on 13
August 2012 asking for information about the New Bus for London.
Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information Act and TfL’s information access policy. I can
confirm TfL does hold the information you require. You asked for:
1. The delivery and first service date for each of the nine New Bus for
London prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London (LT1-LT9)
Please find the prototypes and the introduction dates listed below:
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Vehicle |Delivery Date |First Service Date |
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT1 | 31/03/12| 02/04/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT2 | 26/02/12| 27/02/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT3 | 07/07/12| 10/07/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT4 | 23/05/12| 24/05/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT5 | 11/07/12| 13/07/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT6 | 21/04/12| 23/04/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT7 | 26/06/12| 27/06/12|
|------------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
|LT8 | 03/07/12| 04/07/12|
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
There is also a technical proving vehicle (designated AE217) which will
not enter the service and which was delivered to the Millbrook proving
ground on 13 May 2011.
There was a full-scale mock up of the New Bus for London and this was
introduced to the London Transport Museum on 4 November 2010.
2. The official kerb weight for each of the nine New Bus for London
prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London
The kerb weight for the new bus is 12.650 tonnes.
3. The placarded capacity (upstairs seating/downstairs
seating/downstairs standing) for each of the nine New Bus for London
prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London
The target capacity is a total of 87. There will be 22 seats and standing
space for 25 passengers on the a lower deck and 40 seats on an upper deck.
It should be noted that the current vehicles on route 38 are prototypes,
subject to modification, following a period of evaluation. They currently
have a slightly lower capacity of around 83 passengers but once design
refinements are made to the first generation of production vehicles, this
will rise to the anticipated number of 87.
If this is not the information you are looking for, or if you are unable
to access it for some reason, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to
appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would
like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.
Yours sincerely
Eva Rozmahelova
FOI Case Officer
FOI Case Management Team
Corporate Governance Directorate
General Counsel
Transport for London
Dear Mr Barry
We have provided the below response to your request for information
recently.
However, we have since become aware that an incorrect figure was provided
for the current passenger capacity due to an administrative oversight. The
actual figure should have been 77 and not 83.
As I stated in my response, once design refinements are made to the first
generation of production vehicles, this will rise to the anticipated
number of 87.
Please accept my apology for any inconvenience this might have caused.
Yours sincerely
Eva Hextall
FOI Case Officer
From: FOI
Sent: 07 September 2012 11:40
To: '[FOI #125286 email]'
Subject: FOI-0787-1213
Dear Mr Barry
TfL Ref: FOI-0787-1213
Thank you for your email received by Transport for London (TfL) on 13
August 2012 asking for information about the New Bus for London.
Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of
the Freedom of Information Act and TfL’s information access policy. I can
confirm TfL does hold the information you require. You asked for:
1. The delivery and first service date for each of the nine New Bus for
London prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London (LT1-LT9)
Please find the prototypes and the introduction dates listed below:
Vehicle Delivery Date First Service Date
LT1 31/03/12 02/04/12
LT2 26/02/12 27/02/12
LT3 07/07/12 10/07/12
LT4 23/05/12 24/05/12
LT5 11/07/12 13/07/12
LT6 21/04/12 23/04/12
LT7 26/06/12 27/06/12
LT8 03/07/12 04/07/12
There is also a technical proving vehicle (designated AE217) which will
not enter the service and which was delivered to the Millbrook proving
ground on 13 May 2011.
There was a full-scale mock up of the New Bus for London and this was
introduced to the London Transport Museum on 4 November 2010.
2. The official kerb weight for each of the nine New Bus for London
prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London
The kerb weight for the new bus is 12.650 tonnes.
3. The placarded capacity (upstairs seating/downstairs
seating/downstairs standing) for each of the nine New Bus for London
prototypes and pre-production vehicles ordered for London
The target capacity is a total of 87. There will be 22 seats and standing
space for 25 passengers on the a lower deck and 40 seats on an upper deck.
It should be noted that the current vehicles on route 38 are prototypes,
subject to modification, following a period of evaluation. They currently
have a slightly lower capacity of around 83 passengers but once design
refinements are made to the first generation of production vehicles, this
will rise to the anticipated number of 87.
If this is not the information you are looking for, or if you are unable
to access it for some reason, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to
appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would
like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.
Yours sincerely
Eva Rozmahelova
FOI Case Officer
FOI Case Management Team
Corporate Governance Directorate
General Counsel
Transport for London
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Paul Sladen left an annotation ()
The original requester hasn't updated the status, but the request appears to be complete to me. And a very good and complete answer from TfL at that. Thank you very much!