Terrorism

Jeff Hayward made this Rhyddid Gwybodaeth request to Lancashire Constabulary

This request has been closed to new correspondence from the public body. Contact us if you think it ought be re-opened.

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Dear Lancashire Constabulary,
Has any act of terrorism by a terrorist organisation,or
person\persons acting on behalf of such an organisation been
perpertrated within your force area over the period of the last 15 years

Yours faithfully,

Jeff Hayward

Information assurance unit,

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST REFERENCE NO: 3297/11

I write in connection with your request for information dated the 21/07/2011 which was received by Lancashire Constabulary on the same day. I note you seek access to the following information:

INFORMATION RELATING TO TERRORIST ACTS

Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000, known hereafter as 'the Act'. You should receive a response within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined in the Act, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party. In some circumstances Lancashire Constabulary may be unable to achieve this deadline. If this is likely, you will be informed and given a revised time-scale at the earliest opportunity.

There may be a fee payable for the retrieval, collation and provision of the information you request. If this is the case you will be informed and the 20 working day timescale will be suspended until we receive payment from you. If you choose not to make payment then your request will remain unanswered.

Some requests may also require either full or partial transference to another public authority in order to answer your query in the fullest possible way. Again, you will be informed if this is the case.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in Lancashire Constabulary.

Regards,

Bryony Hopkinson
Freedom of Information Disclosure Officer
Information Compliance & Disclosure Section - Lancashire Constabulary
Tel: 01772 413324               Fax: 01772 412123
Email: [email address]

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Information assurance unit,

Dear Mr Hayward,

We are currently actioning your request below, however in order to respond it has become apparent that we will require further clarification from you about the nature of the information you are seeking.

As such, please could you clarify precisely what you mean by an "act of terrorism" - i.e. any offence under the Terrorism Act; specific offences; certain types of incidents etc.

Please note that the 20 working day period is 'on hold' until we receive this clarification from you. If no response is received from you within 60 working days from the date of this email, the file will be closed and no response will be provided.

Regards,

Bryony Hopkinson
Freedom of Information Disclosure Officer
Information Compliance & Disclosure Section - Lancashire Constabulary
Tel: 01772 413324               Fax: 01772 412123
Email: [email address]

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Dear Information assurance unit,
Sorry about the confusion.I mean 'any offence under the terrorism act' referring to the 'shooting' (Where a 9mm handgun was used) of civilians or Police Officers over the last 15 years

Yours sincerely,

Jeff Hayward

Information assurance unit,

Thank you for the prompt response.

Your request will now be processed in line with the FOI Act and you will receive a response in due course.

Bryony Hopkinson
Freedom of Information Disclosure Officer
Information Compliance & Disclosure Section - Lancashire Constabulary
Tel: 01772 413324               Fax: 01772 412123
Email: [email address]

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Information assurance unit,

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Please find attached Lancashire Constabulary's response to your recent
request made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (our ref 3297/11).

Regards,

Bryony Hopkinson

Freedom of Information Disclosure Officer

Information Compliance & Disclosure Section - Lancashire Constabulary

Tel: 01772 413324 Fax: 01772 412123

Email: [email address]

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Gadawodd Martin McGartland anodiad ()

+ What better why to hide and cover-up corruption and wrongdoing by By Bent Northumbria Police Top Cops, the Home Office, MI5 and even British Government. They just need to lie and claim that's 'vexatious' ... so is that 'vexatious'. Long runs the fox. +

Lancashire Constabulary sure have a lot of free time on their hands, they went to 3 What do they know members pages, took a looooooong time to read all of the '100' requests etc WHY? Have the Home Office been in contact? Or, was it those corrupt Chief Officers from Northumbria Police; https://www.facebook.com/marty.mcgartlan... - https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Northu... - https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Sue-Si... ??? Either way ... I note that Lancashire Constabulary are also turning a blind-eye to the corruption by Northumbria Police. One other point, Tony Wise has made no fewer than 7 FOI requests to Lancashire Constabulary;
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/tony_...
Jeff Hayward has made one or two. He is being told that it is 'Vexatious'. What is going on? To be 'vexatious' you will be; 1. Causing or tending to cause annoyance, frustration, or worry. However, Lancashire Constabulary have stated that thy accept that you are NOT doing this.
2. Denoting an action or the bringer of an action that is brought without sufficient grounds for winning, purely to cause annoyance ... Am I missing something? Where is the evidence that this is 'vexatious'? The Information Commissioner short guide on same states; http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/l... What better why to hide and cover-up corruption and wrongdoing by By Bent Northumbria Police Top Cops, the Home Office, MI5 and even British Government. They just need to lie and claim that's 'vexatious' ... so is that 'vexatious'. Long runs the fox.

www.martinmcgartland.co.uk
http://www.causes.com/causes/548596

Dear Information assurance unit,
You have stated that (and i quote) 'Whilst to date Lancashire Constabulary has had limited dealings with you and your associates,the evidence from other forces indicates that any response provided is likely to be challenged and / or followed by subsequent requests seeking additional information on the subject' (unquote)

If you refer to my FOI requests the evidence points otherwise.Merseyside Police have not been challenged or recieved further requests from myself as have the following Police forces,Cambridgeshire Police,South Yorkshire Police,North Yorkshire Police,Thames Valley Police,Cumbria Constabulary and even your own Police force regarding an earlier FOI i have submitted.

I have submitted 2 FOI requests to your goodselves one of which was 'readily' answered and one which is 'deemed' vexatious.If as you suggest that ALL the FOI requests are ultimately related to 2 unsolved criminal investigations involving a Mr Martin McGartland then why was my first FOI to your force not deemed vexatious if it is indeed ultimately related to the case of Mr McGartland.

You also claim that requests i have made from 'other authorities' in 'many cases' seem to be followed up by further correspondence,either asking for further information or complaining about the response.Apart from Northumbria Police which FOI requests would that be exactly from these 'other authorities ' ?

You seem to be also implying i am 'trying to obtain additional information to open debate with various Police forces on the matter of Mr McGartland'.This doesn't make sense.How could i open debate about an 'on going investigation' with your goodselves or any other Police force as regards matters within another force area when (to my knowledge) you know nothing about said investigation or Mr McGartland for that matter( and why would you its not your force area !)

Subsequently my FOI requests to Lancashire Police could never become as you deem 'excessive' as how could i attain information from your goodselves over matters you have 'no hand in' as to put it.That's blatantly obvious i would have thought.

My FOI as regards 'Terrorism' to Lancashire Police is nothing more than research to find out how much 'actual' or 'perceived' terrorism has occurred over the last 15 years in the UK (in light of the fact of the real threat of terrorism from various elements within today's society and ongoing 'heightened' alerts).You stated that Mr McGartlands case was a 'criminal investigation'.My FOI is seeking information about Terrorism offenses.

I would like the following information ...

1) Have the Home office been in contact with Lancashire Constabulary and issued strict criteria as regards dealing with FOI requests from certain individuals that may have some interest in Mr McGartlands case and/or have Northumbria police contacted Lancashire Constabulary concerning FOI requests from certain individuals who may have a interest in Mr McGartlands case ?

The ICO states 'Vexatious' http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/l...

As i stated above,trying to open a debate about Mr McGartlands case with Lancashire Constabulary who would no nothing about said investigation would be pointless but as far as corruption within Northumbria Police at the highest level is concerned then i would have thought this would be a matter of interest (and concern) to yourselves !

For your attention ...https://www.facebook.com/marty.mcgartlan...
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Northu...
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Sue-Si...

Lastly i would like to reiterate that none of the above Police forces i have mentioned have deemed my requests 'Vexatious' in any way other than yourselves and Northumbria police which raises the question 'why do authorities (when they believe the subject matter is connected)treat FOI requests differently from another force,concerning to say the least !

Yours sincerely,

Jeff Hayward

Gadawodd Martin McGartland anodiad ()

Well well well, are they both colluding? The Chief Constable of Lancashire Constabulary, Steve Finnigan; 'joined Merseyside Police in 1976, and during the early part of his career held various operational roles ...' http://www.lancashire.police.uk/about-us... Look at this too; 'Mrs Sim moved to Northumbria after 19 years with Merseyside Police where she gained extensive experience in both uniform and criminal investigation roles.In 1997 Mrs Sim was promoted to Superintendent and took responsibility for the introduction of the Crime and Disorder Act throughout Merseyside.' http://www.northumbria.police.uk/about_u... Has Sue Sim, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sue-Sim-th... , and Steve Finnigan been in contact with each other regards this request, case. Are they both colluding? This calls for a FOI request. www.martinmcgartland.co.uk

Gadawodd Jeff Hayward anodiad ()

This stinks to high heaven.The only other police force who have deemed my requests as 'vexatious' are Lancashire constabulary who's chief constable seems to share a 'career background' with the chief constable of Northumbria police.Both chief constables served together at Merseyside police for a number of years.Why would Lancashire police have any interest in a shooting which did not occur within their own force area and is out of their jurisdiction.The only logical answer seems to be one of collusion !

Dear Lancashire Constabulary,

Please pass this on to the person who conducts Freedom of Information reviews.

I am writing to request an internal review of Lancashire Constabulary's handling of my FOI request 'Terrorism'.

My request has been deemed vexatious from the outset

A full history of my FOI request and all correspondence is available on the Internet at this address:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/te...

Yours faithfully,

Jeff Hayward

Melling, Carl,

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Dear Mr Hayward
 
Please find attached a response to your internal review request.
 
Apologies for the delay in responding.
 
regards
Carl Melling 

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Dear Melling, Carl,
Thanks very much for the information and your time in regard to this matter.Nice to see this ' vexatious ' nonsense overturned as the question in the first place only required a ' yes ' or ' no ' answer,thanks again.

Yours sincerely,

Jeff Hayward

Gadawodd Martin McGartland anodiad ()

Well well well ... It is 'vexatious', now it is not 'vexatious'. Sue Sim has been on the dog and bone or the ICO have been in touch. Don't know about you but I'm getting soooo dizzy. Anyone reading these requests can now see what they have been up to.
The truth of the matter is that none of the requests were ever 'vexatious'. That was cooked up by them.
It is and always has been one BIG lie and also a cover-up.

Gadawodd Martin McGartland anodiad ()

www.martinmcgartland.co.uk
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RESOURCES DIRECTORATE
Corporate Support and Information Services – Information Compliance & Disclosure Section
Police Headquarters, Saunders Lane, Hutton, Preston PR4 5SB

Tel: 01772 413327 Fax: 01772 412123 Email: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxx.xx

Mr M McGartland

Via www.whatdotheyknow.com
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx

23 November 2011

Dear Mr McGartland

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION APPLICATION REFERENCE NO: 3363/11

I refer to your email of the 17th October, seeking an internal review of the response provided to your FOIA request under the above reference.

I apologise for the delay in responding.

In accordance with the Constabulary’s Freedom of Information Request Complaints Procedure, a Panel has now considered your request and the comments made within your email.

The Panel notes that the request was as follows:
….please can you provide me with any documents, information or communications made between Chief Constable of Lancashire Constabulary, Steve Finnigan and Chief Constable of Northumbria Police Sue Sim since 1st July 2011 and until this request is answered.

Also, please supply following information under freedom of information act;

1. Please can you provide me with any documents, information concerning any contact, both written or verbal, between above dates and between any member of Lancashire Constabulary staff and also any member of Northumbria Police staff, including both FOI/DPA departments concerning following requests and or that subject matter;

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/co...
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/te...

2. Please supply all information concerning any relationship, either professional or personal , between Steve Finnigan and Sue Sim.
The above is relevant given Lancashire Constabulary’s reply to following FOI request;

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/te...

I note that the Chief Constable of Lancashire Constabulary, Steve Finnigan; 'joined Merseyside Police in 1976, and during the early part of his career held various operational roles ...' (http://www.lancashire.police.uk/about-us...).

Look at this too; 'Mrs Sim moved to Northumbria after 19 years with Merseyside Police where she gained extensive experience in both uniform and criminal investigation roles. In 1997 Mrs Sim was promoted to Superintendent and took responsibility for the introduction of the Crime and Disorder Act throughout Merseyside.'

(http://www.northumbria.police.uk/about_u...).
Has Sue Sim, (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sue-Sim-th...), and Steve Finnigan been in contact with each other regards this request, case. Are they, their force's colluding in this case?

The Panel notes that there was a delay in responding to the original request. The delay arose in part due to the periods of leave/ and other work pressures placed upon the team which handles FOIA requests.
Having reviewed your request, the Panel considers that the application of vexatious to your request was incorrect. Your request has now been considered and Lancashire Constabulary can inform you as follows:

In accordance with Section 1(1)(a) of the Act, no information is held relating to communication between the Chief Constables of Lancashire and Northumbria from the 1st July and the response to the request. Further, no information is held relating communication between the staff of Lancashire and Northumbria Police relating to the FOIA requests. With regards to the relationship, or otherwise, between the Chief Constables of Lancashire and Northumbria, I can neither confirm nor deny that Lancashire Constabulary holds any information relevant to your request. This is because information (if it were held), which may constitute personal data, is exempt from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 by virtue of the listed exemption S.40 (5)(b)(i), as disclosure of such information would be in breach of the first and second principles of the Data Protection Act 1998; this requires that information held should be fairly and lawfully processed; and should be processed for limited purposes only. The disclosure of personal information to a third party would always be considered unfair to the data subject, and is beyond the purposes for which this information would be held by the Constabulary. As such, this letter serves to act as a refusal notice for this aspect of your request, as per S.17 (1) of the Act. No inference can be taken from this refusal that the information you have requested does or does not exist.

If you are not satisfied with this response you may make a complaint to the Information Commissioner.

The Information Commissioner can be contacted at:

The Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.

Yours sincerely

Carl Melling

Data Protection and Information Manager

Link: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/83...

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