Sawston Village College Fire - September 2012

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Dear Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service,

Could you please release your report on your investigation into the Sawston Village College fire on Thursday the 6th of September 2012.

If not included in the report could you also please release the time of the first notification of the fire; and the time the fire service arrived on the site.

Regards,

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Richard Taylor
Cambridge
http://www.rtaylor.co.uk

Sarah Youthed, Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service

Dear Mr Taylor,

Thank you for your email.

A response will be with you as soon as possible and in any event within
the permitted timescale of 20 working days i.e. 3rd December 2012.

If you only wish confirmation by email of the time of the first call,
and the time the fire service were in attendance we can provide this
free of charge to you.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly.

Kind regards

Sarah Youthed

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Lynn Farrah, Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service

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Dear Mr Taylor,
 
Thank you for your email.
 
We can confirm a report will be available to purchase for this incident
and copies currently cost £71.90 each. If you wish to go ahead and
purchase a copy, please forward a cheque payable to "Cambs & Peterborough
Fire Authority" along with your postal address as all reports are sent out
by post.
 
On receipt of the payment we will forward a copy of the report as soon as
it is fully completed and checked.
 
Kind regards
Lynn Farrah
Information & Support Officer
Combined Fire Control
Cambridgeshire Fire & Rescue Service
Hinchingbrooke Cottage
Brampton Road
Huntingdon
Cambs
PE29 2NA
 
Tel: 01480 444 500 
 

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Dear Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service,

Could you please respond to my request for information in-line with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act.

If you are not prepared to provide the information I have requested could you please cite the exemptions on which you are relying for withholding the information.

I would of course like you to provide the time of the first call and the time the fire service were in attendance.

Regards,

--

Richard Taylor
Cambridge
http://www.rtaylor.co.uk

Gadawodd Lee Gardiner anodiad ()

On the assumption the charges levied for incident reports are shown on the Cambs FRS publication scheme then they are perfectly entitled to charge you for it and are not required to reply until the charge is paid, the Act is quite clear about this.

Gadawodd Paul Staples anodiad ()

Previous comment is correct, but they must still do a proper refusal notice compliant with s17 FOIA - which they have not done. Further all I can see in their PS is a generic " Where there is further information we can provide you but do not publish as a matter of routine, we indicate any charges involved in supplying it to you." It is debatable whether this satisfies the s21(3) requirement that "any payment required is specified in, or determined in accordance with, the scheme".

Gadawodd Winston Smith anodiad ()

I believe that you are both missing a central point here. Richard's original request does not necessarily constitute a valid FOI submission - it does not specify the Act - so they are correctly handling it as Business as Usual, which they are entitled to provided they intend to give the info within the 20 working days. They are doing so, albeit for a fee, which may be within their schedule of charges, so they can.

Gadawodd Richard Taylor anodiad ()

In reply to Winston Smith:

i/ A FOI request does not need to cite the act. The requirements of a valid request are set out in section 8 of the act http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000...

ii/ Requests made via WhatDoTheyKnow do go out to public bodies with subjects, and other content, making clear they are FOI requests.

I understand there is an exemption, under S21 of the FOIA http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000... for material available via other means. I have searched the public body's website but cannot see any route for acquiring reports via other means.

There is a suggestion above that the report is not yet complete; so it maybe that the proper response to the initial part of my request is that the information is not held (though advice and assistance ought be provided explaining why not, when it will be available, and how a copy can be obtained).

Sarah Youthed, Cambridgeshire Fire and Rescue Service

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Dear Mr Taylor,
 
I am now able to respond to your request, dated 5 November 2012.   Please
find attached the report which I trust is the information you require.
 
A copy of the CFRS Complaints Procedure is attached for your information.
 
If you have any queries please do not hesitate to get in touch.
 
Regards
 
Sarah Youthed
 

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