police officers in Clackmannanshire

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Dear Clackmannanshire Council,

I would like through the freedom of Information act the following information.

1. How many police officers (all ranks male/female) are working in Clackmannanshire on a weekly basis? I do not want the total used in an emergency, just the amount that are working for us on a weekly basis. Basically, what is the allocation giving to Clackmannanshire either on patrol or in a station.(total)

2. How much does it cost Clackmannanshire Council on a weekly basis to have the Police working in Clackmannanshire?

3. How is the Police Force payed, i.e, through the Council Tax, Government Grant etc? Maybe its just from the Council Tax or its just from the Government Grant?

Yours faithfully,

b ovens

ContactCentre, Clackmannanshire Council

Hi

I have forwarded your enquiry to our the adminservices mail box. They will
be in touch with you in due course.

Kind regards

Allison Bennis
Customer Services Adviser
Customer Contact Centre
Clackmannanshire Council

Tel: (01259) 450000


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Dear Clackmannanshire Council,

I would like through the freedom of Information act the following
information.

1. How many police officers (all ranks male/female) are working in
Clackmannanshire on a weekly basis? I do not want the total used in
an emergency, just the amount that are working for us on a weekly
basis. Basically, what is the allocation giving to Clackmannanshire
either on patrol or in a station.(total)

2. How much does it cost Clackmannanshire Council on a weekly basis
to have the Police working in Clackmannanshire?

3. How is the Police Force payed, i.e, through the Council Tax,
Government Grant etc? Maybe its just from the Council Tax or its
just from the Government Grant?

Yours faithfully,

b ovens

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Ian Smail, Clackmannanshire Council

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| Clackmannanshire Council, Greenfield, Alloa, Clackmannanshire FK10 ||
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To:
Mr. Brian Ovens Contact: Jennie Syme
2 Johnston Crescent Tel. No: 01259 450000
Tillicoultry Ref: CHI03C180E
FK13 6PY Date: 26/04/2010

Dear Prof. Ovens

Freedom of Information : CHI03C180E

Thank you for your information request received on 26/04/2010.

Having checked the records held I have established that we do not hold the
information you have requested. It is my understanding that related
records may be held by Central Scotland Police. I have transferred
your request to them for consideration but in the circumstances, you may
wish to contact them direct for confirmation.

Yours sincerely,

Ian Smail
Administration Officer

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| Council***s Head of Strategy and Customer Services seeking a review of |
| your request. (the address is: Clackmannanshire Council, Greenfield, |
| Alloa FK10 2AD. (Email address: [email address]). If you |
| are not satisfied with the outcome of the review you have the right to |
| appeal directly to The Scottish Information Commissioner, Kinburn |
| Castle, Doubledykes Road, St. Andrews, Fife KY16 9DS. |
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Dear Ian Smail,

Thanks for the quick reply. Can you answer something though, I thought Council Tax went towards paying for Police, but if you have no records to answer my questions, then surly this mean no Council Tax money goes towards paying for the Police? Can you confirm if im correct in my assertion?

Yours sincerely,

b ovens

Ian Smail, Clackmannanshire Council

Dear Mr Ovens

Your original question was 'how is the Police Force payed?' As there was
no reference as to Clackmannanshire Council, I had concluded that you were
referring to the detailing of funding received by Central Scotland Police
which we would not hold that information.

Now that I understand that you were actually referring to Clackmannanshire
Council's contribution I can tell you that this information is already
published, and available on clacksweb, is the summary of accounts for
2008-09. In order to be helpful, it can be found at:
http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/site/documen...

In the accounts on page 30 it refers to the amount contributed by
Clackmannanshire Council to the Central Scotland Joint Police Board.

Presumably, now that this question is answered I will inform the FOI
officer at Central Scotland Police that it is only question 1 and 2 that
they need to respond to.

Yours sincerely
Ian Smail
Administration Officer

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References

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Dear Ian Smail,

I had a look at the link but it doesn't say exactly what this money pays for, could it be going towards Police pensions for example?

it says......

During 2008/09 the Council contributed £4.261m or 15.8% of the Boards estimated running costs. The Boards net liabilities at 31 March 2009 were £282.852m and the Councils share has been incorporated in the Group Accounts.

are these figures for running the boards? it isn't clear reading.

Yours sincerely,

b ovens

Ian Smail, Clackmannanshire Council

Dear Mr Ovens

The information provided is all Clackmannanshire Council holds, any
further information would have to be provided by Central Scotland Police.

Yours sincerely,
Ian Smail
Administration Officer

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References

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1. http://www.clearswift.com/

Freedom Of Information,

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 - Acknowledgment

Thank you for your request for information received on 26th April
2010, and is being dealt with this in accordance with the Freedom of
Information (Scotland) Act 2002. Your request has been given the unique
Reference Number : 1538 and this should be quoted on all correspondence.

Under the terms of the Act, we have a statutory obligation to respond
within 20 working days from the after your request was received. A
response to your request for information will be sent to you promptly; and
in any event not later than 25th May 2010. Please allow for postal time,
if sent by mail.

As you will already have been advised, your Freedom of Information request
has been passed to Central Scotland Police by Clackmannanshire Council.

Your request may result in us not supplying the information you have
requested, as the Act imposes certain conditions and exemptions on the
information we may supply. It is also possible that the information you
request is controlled by different legislation.

If you require any clarification or advice, please do not hesitate to
contact me on 01786 456000 or Email: [1][email address]
. However, if you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has
been handled, you are entitled, in the first instance, to request a Review
of the decisions made. Should you wish to request a Review after your
initial Response from us, please write to Chief Inspector A McLeod, Head
of Department, Professional Standards Department, Central Scotland Police,
Police Headquarters, Randolphfield, Stirling FK8 2HD within 40 working
days of receiving this correspondence.

If, after receiving a response to the Review, you remain dissatisfied, you
have six months within which you may Appeal to the Scottish Information
Commissioner who can be contacted at Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St
Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS. Phone: 01334 464610 Fax: 01334 464611 or Email
[2][email address] .

For further information on Freedom of Information you can visit the
Scottish Information Commissioners website at
[3]www.itspublicknowledge.info .

Yours sincerely

(on behalf of)
Freedom of Information Officer

Stuart Macfarlane
Data Protection Department
Headquarters
Randolphfield
Stirling

01786 456341

Dear Clackmannanshire Council,

I would like through the freedom of Information act the following
information.

1. How many police officers (all ranks male/female) are working in
Clackmannanshire on a weekly basis? I do not want the total used in
an emergency, just the amount that are working for us on a weekly
basis. Basically, what is the allocation giving to Clackmannanshire
either on patrol or in a station.(total)

2. How much does it cost Clackmannanshire Council on a weekly basis
to have the Police working in Clackmannanshire?

3. How is the Police Force payed, i.e, through the Council Tax,
Government Grant etc? Maybe its just from the Council Tax or its
just from the Government Grant?

Yours faithfully,

b ovens

dangos adrannau a ddyfynnir

Dear Freedom Of Information,

ref number 1538

I was wondering if Central Scotland Police had been in touch yet?

Yours sincerely,

b ovens

Freedom Of Information,

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Thank you for your email. I am confused by your email wording.
However, can only apologise for the delay, I hopefully will be
responding within the next couple of days. The delay has been caused by
me taking Annual Leave, for which I apologise and hope you can bear with
me meantime.

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [email address]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

No apologies needed, you deserve your break, and yes, I can bear with you.

Yours sincerely,

b ovens

Freedom Of Information,

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Hi Brian,

I have just sent your response a few moments ago, and thank you.!

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [email address]

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Freedom Of Information,

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002

Thank you for your request for information received on 26th April, 2010.
I have dealt with this in accordance with the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002 and respond to your request as follows :

Your Request(s) :

1. How many police officers (all ranks male/female) are working
in Clackmannanshire on a weekly basis? I do not want the total used
in an emergency, just the amount that are working for us on a weekly
basis. Basically, what is the allocation giving to
Clackmannanshire either on patrol or in a station.(total)
2. How much does it cost Clackmannanshire Council on a weekly basis to
have the Police working in Clackmannanshire?
3. How is the Police Force payed, i.e, through the Council
Tax, Government Grant etc? Maybe its just from the Council Tax or
its just from the Government Grant?

Response(s) :

1. Central Scotland Police Force do not record the sex of ranks working
in Clackmannanshire on a weekly basis. However, our Resource
Management Unit can advise that 'over the course of a week' there are
304 Police Officers working overall in Alloa.
2. This information is not held / recorded by Central Scotland Police
force. Part 1, Section 17, 1 (b) of the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002 requires Central Scotland Police to advise you
that we do not hold the information you have requested.
3. Central Scotland Police Force is funded by Scottish Govenment by
grant. Details of which are available on our Audited Accounts at :
[1]http://www.centralscotland.police.uk/foi...

You should be aware that Central Scotland Police hold the Copyright for
the material provided and it may not be reproduced in any format or media
without acquiring specific permission. This will also be subject to the
material not being used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context.
The source of the material must then be acknowledged as Central Scotland
Police, and the title of the document must be included when being
reproduced as part of another publication or service.

Police forces in the United Kingdom are routinely required to provide
crime statistics to government bodies and the recording criteria is set
nationally. However, the systems used for recording these figures are not
generic, nor are the procedures used locally in capturing the crime data.
It should be noted that for these reasons this force's response to your
questions should not be used for comparison purposes with any other
response you may receive.

If you require any clarification, please do not hesitate to contact me on
01786 456000 or Email: [2][email address] . However, if
you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been handled,
you are entitled, in the first instance, to request a Review of the
decisions made. Should you wish to request a Review, please write to Chief
Inspector A McLeod, Head of Department, Professional Standards Department,
Central Scotland Police, Police Headquarters, Randolphfield, Stirling FK8
2HD within 40 working days of receiving this correspondence.

If, after receiving a response, you remain dissatisfied, you have six
months within which you may Appeal to the Scottish Information
Commissioner who can be contacted at Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St
Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS. Phone: 01334 464610 Fax: 01334 464611 or Email
[3][email address] .

Yours sincerely

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer
Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters
Randolphfield
Stirling FK8 2HD

Tel: 01786 456000
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [4][email address]

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Dear Freedom Of Information,

Thanks for the reply but can you clear some things up?

1. You said there are 304 police officers in Alloa, I take it that these officers are to cover the whole of Clackmannanshire?

2. You said Central Scotland Police are funded through the Governement Grant, is this directly from the Government or is this payed from Clackmannanshire's Government Grant? It is the amount im trying to find, that is payed to CSP.

Yours sincerely,

brian ovens

Freedom Of Information,

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Dear Mr Ovens,

Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002
Thank you for your request for information received on 24th June, 2010, I
have dealt with this in accordance with the Freedom of Information
(Scotland) Act 2002 and respond to your request as follows :

Your Request(s) :

1. You said there are 304 police officers in Alloa, I take it that these
officers are to cover the whole of Clackmannanshire? Response : I can
confirm the number supplied at Alloa is to cover the whole of
Clackmannanshire, which has been supplied as an average number.

2. You said Central Scotland Police are funded through the Government
Grant, is this directly from the Government or is this paid from
Clackmannanshire's Government Grant? It is the amount I am trying to find,
that is paid to CSP. Response : This is a duplicated request and in your
previous request 1538 I supplied the information contained in our Audited
Accounts which explains where the grants come from Scottish Executive and
Local Government. Please read in particular page 4, page 11
Clackmannanshire charges and also page 14. You may find it useful to read
the whole document and by way of assistance I have attached it to this
email.
You should be aware that Central Scotland Police hold the Copyright for
the material provided and it may not be reproduced in any format or media
without acquiring specific permission. This will also be subject to the
material not being used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context.
The source of the material must then be acknowledged as Central Scotland
Police, and the title of the document must be included when being
reproduced as part of another publication or service.

Police forces in the United Kingdom are routinely required to provide
crime statistics to government bodies and the recording criteria is set
nationally. However, the systems used for recording these figures are not
generic, nor are the procedures used locally in capturing the crime data.
It should be noted that for these reasons this force's response to your
questions should not be used for comparison purposes with any other
response you may receive.

If you require any clarification, please do not hesitate to contact me on
01786 456000 or Email: [email address] . However, if you
are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been handled, you
are entitled, in the first instance, to request a Review of the decisions
made. Should you wish to request a Review, please write to Chief Inspector
A McLeod, Head of Department, Professional Standards Department, Central
Scotland Police, Police Headquarters, Randolphfield, Stirling FK8 2HD
within 40 working days of receiving this correspondence.

If, after receiving a response, you remain dissatisfied, you have six
months within which you may Appeal to the Scottish Information
Commissioner who can be contacted at Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St
Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS. Phone: 01334 464610 Fax: 01334 464611 or Email
[email address] .

Yours sincerely

Kind regards
Ilene

Freedom of Information Officer

Central Scotland Police
Police Headquarters

Tel: 01786 456000 Ext : 2774
Fax: 01786 456388
Email: [1][email address]

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