Number of ADV1 applications

The request was refused by Land Registry.

Christopher Barrs

Dear Land Registry,
Could you please tell me how many ADV1 applications the land registry dealt with in the year starting 1st Jan 2017 and ending on the 31st Dec 2017, and how many of those applications were successfully registered to the adverse possessor?

Yours faithfully,

Christopher Barrs

Petty, Roger, Land Registry

Dear Christopher Barrs

 

Thank you for your email of 15 January 2018 requesting information about
many ADV1 applications the land registry dealt with in the year starting
1st Jan 2017 and ending on the 31st Dec 2017, and how many of those
applications were successfully registered to the adverse possessor.

 

Your request is being dealt with under the terms of the Freedom of
Information Act 2000 and will be answered within twenty working days.

 

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Yours sincerely

 

Roger Petty
Departmental Records Officer

Corporate Legal and Assurance Services

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Petty, Roger, Land Registry

Dear Christopher Barrs

 

Thank you for your email of 15 January 2018 where you requested
information about how many ADV1 applications the land registry dealt with
in the year starting 1st Jan 2017 and ending on the 31st Dec 2017, and how
many of those applications were successfully registered to the adverse
possessor.

 

There were 457 ADV1 applications in 2017. However, we do not keep
statistics of unsuccessful applications. I can tell you that 21 out of the
457 applications were cancelled.

 

The data provided has been collected from a variety of sources as part of
the land registration process. Whilst we make every effort to ensure that
the data we provide is as accurate as possible we cannot guarantee it is
fit for your intended purpose or use.

 

The data is also subject to Crown copyright. You may use the data for
personal use/research but this does not entitle you to reuse it for any
other purpose (including commercial use, marketing or publication). If you
wish to reuse the information, please let us know what your intended use
is, so we can consider this further.

 

If you have any queries about this letter, please contact me.

If you are dissatisfied with this response to your request, you may seek
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reviews will be dealt within 20 working days. If at the end of this time
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Louise Booth

Head of Corporate Legal Services (Core Services)

Head Office

Trafalgar House

1 Bedford Park

Croydon

CR0 2AQ

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If you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have
the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner (ICO) within
three months of the reply for a decision. Generally, the ICO cannot make a
decision unless you have exhausted the complaints procedure provided by HM
Land Registry. The Information Commissioner can be contacted at: The
Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow,
Cheshire SK9 5AF.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Roger Petty
Departmental Records Officer

Corporate Legal and Assurance Services

Head Office, 1 Bedford Park, Croydon CR0 2AQ
DD: 0300 006 7054 | GTN: 67054
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Christopher Barrs

Dear Petty, Roger,
You say you do not keep statistics of UNsuccessful applications but what I have requested is the number of successful applications. Or are you telling me that you do not keep any statistics at all and are therefore totally unaware of what effect the LRA2003 has had? Please could you tell me how many of the 457 ADV1 applications made, were successfully registered to the applicant?

Yours sincerely,

Christopher Barrs

Petty, Roger, Land Registry

Dear Christopher Barrs

 

Thank you for your email of 2 February 2018 requesting an Internal Review
of HM Land Registry’s reply to your request for information about how many
ADV1 applications the land registry dealt with in the year starting 1st
Jan 2017 and ending on the 31st Dec 2017, and how  many of those
applications were successfully registered to the adverse  possessor.

 

Your request will be referred to one of our lawyers in the team and will
be answered within twenty working days. If it appears that it will take
longer than this to reach a conclusion, we will keep you informed.

 

If you have any queries about this letter, please do not hesitate to
contact me.

Yours sincerely

 

 

Roger Petty
Departmental Records Officer

Corporate Legal, Indemnity and Assurance

Head Office, 1 Bedford Park, Croydon CR0 2AQ
DD: 0300 006 7054 | GTN: 67054
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Dear Petty, Roger, Why would there be a need to refer this matter to a lawyer? This is purely a question of statistics. The land registration act 2002 was introduced, in part, to toughen up on adverse possession of registered land, how can you possibly know if it is having the desired effect if you do not keep the statistics readily to hand?
Your mission, as stated on your website is, "your land and property rights: guaranteed and protected" yet the land registry can't do this without regularly checking the statistics and tweaking as necessary.

Yours sincerely,

Christopher Barrs

Petty, Roger, Land Registry

Dear Christopher Barrs

 

Thank you for your email of 2 February 2018 where you requested
information about how many ADV1 applications the land registry dealt with
in the year starting 1st Jan 2017 and ending on the 31st Dec 2017, and
how many of those applications were successfully registered to the
adverse possessor.

 

I would like to clarify my reply to your original request.

 

Your request asks for ADV1 applications which are successful. This means
we have to identify those which are not. We do not keep statistics for
whether an application is successful. An application might not be
successful because:

 

o It is rejected at triage or early consideration, e.g. wrong form, etc
o Counter-notice is served
o We receive an objection which is not groundless
o The Tribunal decides against the squatter
o It is withdrawn.

 

When an application is rejected it is cancelled from our system. This is
the ‘cancelled’ figure I gave in my reply. I apologise that this was not
made clear.

 

The rejection or cancellation of an ADV1 application might not happen in
the same calendar year that the application is made so it would not be
possible to say how many were successful/unsuccessful without checking the
status of each individual ADV1 application received in 2017. Some of these
will still be pending.

 

To provide a figure for applications that were ‘successfully registered to
the adverse possessor’ would entail examining each application. Section 12
of the Freedom of Information Act makes provision for public authorities
to refuse requests for information where the cost of dealing with them
would exceed the appropriate limit, which for central government is set at
£600. This represents the estimated cost of one person spending 3.5
working days in determining whether the department holds the information,
locating, retrieving and extracting the information. We would need to
examine each application individually to obtain the information.

 

We estimate that it will take us in excess of 3.5 working days to
determine appropriate material and locate, retrieve and extract the
information.

 

I do hope I have been able to provide some clarity about the matters you
have raised, however, if you are not content with the outcome of the
internal review, you have the right to apply directly to the Information
Commissioner within three months of this reply for a decision. 

 

The Information Commissioner can be contacted at:

 

Information Commissioner’s Office,

Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire

SK9 5AF.

 

Yours sincerely

 

 

Roger Petty
Departmental Records Officer

Corporate Legal, Indemnity and Assurance

Head Office, 1 Bedford Park, Croydon CR0 2AQ
DD: 0300 006 7054 | GTN: 67054
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Christopher Barrs

Dear Petty, Roger, Could you please clarify as to why this request was referred to a lawyer for a further 4 weeks only for me to get the same response as before?
I am sorry but I find it difficult to believe that a government department should have a whole new legal act introduced {LRA 2002} and that they then would not keep statistics to understand what effect that act is having. Has the act been detrimental to registered land owners or has it been good for them? Your ambition includes, amongst other things, "an open approach to data" how can that be if you don't collate data? Your mission statement is "your land and property rights: guaranteed and protected" how can you achieve this mission without knowing if the legislature is having the desired effect?
To make it easier, of the ADV1's that were decided and you have the end results available for 2017, how many were registered to the squatter?

Yours sincerely,

Christopher Barrs

Petty, Roger, Land Registry

Dear Christopher Barrs

Thank you for your email of 2 March 2018.

It is our standard procedure to refer all requests for an internal review to a lawyer. They review the original request and may ask for additional input. Although the Freedom of Information Act does not specify a time to answer a request for an internal review, HM Land Registry states that we will aim to answer within 20 working days.

As stated in our reply, we would need to look at each application to see how the application was concluded. I do not have any 'end results ' available. I have tried to give a fuller answer in my reply, however, as stated in my reply, 'if you are not content with the outcome of the internal review, you have the right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner within three months of this reply for a decision.'

This concludes this internal review.

Yours sincerely

Roger Petty
Departmental Records Officer

Corporate Legal, Indemnity and Assurance
Head Office, 1 Bedford Park, Croydon CR0 2AQ
DD: 0300 006 7054 | GTN: 67054
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